Discotheque
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So we're in agreement that bootleg Christian Bale is the vigilante right? (Btw best new cast member of the show, he's doing great with his scenes)
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Arrow S5 |OT| You thought you were out, but Manu Bennett pulls you back in.
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Jorok Goldblade
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So we've all been focused on Felicity's new boyfriend as Prometheus, but what if it's actually Oliver's new girlfriend?
Uh it was announced he was the Vigilante before the season even started. It's in the first post of this thread.
Discotheque
Banned
I don't follow the news. Damn didn't think they were being transparent with that one
AV Club: B+. Lots of talk about the different characters this week. And they know that Curtis sucks too.
I think both this and last week's episode suffered from Artemis being... not much of anything. She was clearly designed as a single episode plot device in her first incarnation and had her story, now she's back as Artemis with little explanation, last week they seemed to have no clue what to do with her and this week she's a villain. She's constantly being repurposed as a flimsy character to fit whatever the plot needs. Stands out extra because she's the only female in the field these days. Except Felicity was in the field this episode for no good reason. Artemis especially hurts for anyone familiar with Young Justice who did the tortured family history way better.
Same with Vigilante, he's kind of a nothing character so far and we only got one damn scene with his human alter ego. Barely learned a thing about him other than that he'd lost someone. Focus on the weaker characters, plus setting up things for later in the season is what hurt these past two episodes, but this episode also suffered from having an inexperienced director on board as well. But the show is still playing to its strengths in a very competent manner that keeps it enjoyable.
Wild Dog isn't the deepest character, but he's a pretty clean archetype. Rough around the edges dude who wants to do right. Forges friendships, especially with Diggle who needs it. Will galvanize the team when he inevitably dies.
I think both this and last week's episode suffered from Artemis being... not much of anything. She was clearly designed as a single episode plot device in her first incarnation and had her story, now she's back as Artemis with little explanation, last week they seemed to have no clue what to do with her and this week she's a villain. She's constantly being repurposed as a flimsy character to fit whatever the plot needs. Stands out extra because she's the only female in the field these days. Except Felicity was in the field this episode for no good reason. Artemis especially hurts for anyone familiar with Young Justice who did the tortured family history way better.
Same with Vigilante, he's kind of a nothing character so far and we only got one damn scene with his human alter ego. Barely learned a thing about him other than that he'd lost someone. Focus on the weaker characters, plus setting up things for later in the season is what hurt these past two episodes, but this episode also suffered from having an inexperienced director on board as well. But the show is still playing to its strengths in a very competent manner that keeps it enjoyable.
Wild Dog isn't the deepest character, but he's a pretty clean archetype. Rough around the edges dude who wants to do right. Forges friendships, especially with Diggle who needs it. Will galvanize the team when he inevitably dies.
MikeBreezy92
Member
Idk unless Artemis's parents were specifically Sports Master and Huntress, I can't connect the two. She could be amazonian for all we know.
And I think our DA has gotten enough development over the course of the show in little chunks that its fine that he didn't get any focus in this episode.
And I think our DA has gotten enough development over the course of the show in little chunks that its fine that he didn't get any focus in this episode.
Dominican Power
Member
Artemis was looking fine as fuck in that red dress. I need a gif of that.
How the fuck is Curtis getting his hair braided so fast?
How the fuck is Curtis getting his hair braided so fast?
Joke character.
Until he isn't.
Best I could get and it looks creepy without context.
MikeBreezy92
Member
I think literally anyone of Afro-descent has been wondering that. Shit is unreal.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
The shocking thing is that the tv series Young Justice made Sportsmaster a legitimate badass. If you can make a goofy character badass or a badass character goofy, I'll love whatever is going on.
I was like "Who is that in that dres-Artemis?!?! Whew.
Yeah, they should just stop with the braids. The doing and undoing is just pointless. I don't think Curtis' hair is some big disadvantage in a fight, he's gonna get whooped either way. Which is fine, I suppose he's the greenest when it comes down to it.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Yeah this is the real superpower
wowbaggerBR
Member
Jeez, this new team is depressing to watch. Why do we need those extras? Arrow and Diggle were just fine without a crew back then.
Get rid of those extras, make Arrow great again!
Get rid of those extras, make Arrow great again!
Ragman is the most useful sidekick Arrow has had, other than Dig.
Jorok Goldblade
Member
Artemis is evil, Wild Dog probably won't make it out of this season alive, Ragman will realize that he should be using those powers against reality threatening magic villains instead of one-sided fights with mobsters. Only Mr. Terrific and Spartan will remain.
What is there for him to learn? He's already crazy OP.
How does he protect himself when he is washing his rags?
washing them removes the magic
they don't call him "Well-Laundered Cloth Man" for a very good reason
why do you think he's often standing kind of far away from the other guys? it's the stench
TheGreatDirector
Banned
Damn with Artemis in his pocket, Prometheus must have planned every single encounter with the Green Arrow.
This episode was good. I liked the Vigilante's appearances but I was surprised they didn't reveal him as the D.A. already. I guess they're possibly saving that for the mid season finale.
This episode was good. I liked the Vigilante's appearances but I was surprised they didn't reveal him as the D.A. already. I guess they're possibly saving that for the mid season finale.
Jorok Goldblade
Member
She should have gotten wrecked when she went up a against him solo. Now we know why.
Septimus Prime
Member
He must have a terrific hair stylist.
Curious is like the Besaid Aurochs: eventually he'll be among the best players on the field, but man is it a grueling journey to get there.
It was faked, or he enslaved her there.
northead
Member
Couple possible theories for 5x07:
1)
2)
Overall a solid episode; I just hope for the mid-season finale not to end with the Vigilante reveal; we all know who he is and it'd be weak. But oh well let's buckle up for some crossover bonanza.
1)
Prometheus is somehow controlling Artemis much like he did with Quentin, albeit in a different manner. Ties in with the Prometheus-is-Tommy theory.
2)
Artemis is trying to pull a triple agent. We've seen last week that she can be a bit of a defector, so this could easily be her trying to one up her own game by herself. Needless to say, if this is the case it's going to end up badly for her but that might open the door for some Laurel/Flashpoint comeback shenanigans.
Overall a solid episode; I just hope for the mid-season finale not to end with the Vigilante reveal; we all know who he is and it'd be weak. But oh well let's buckle up for some crossover bonanza.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I noticed it too. Before I thought it was painted on but I could see that it was raised off his face this week. His actual eyes kinda kill the effect for me but the 'T' mask is on point.
Joke character.
Until he isn't.
Best I could get and it looks creepy without context.
Yes, Arrow is indeed 7 for 7 this season.
It is off, like Legends of Tomorrow.
quiksilver1209
Neo Member
Another awesome episode! It's been said before but Arrow has been straight fire this season!
Can't wait until the crossover!
Doesn't surprise me that Artemis is working with Prometheus, but lets see where they take this. I'm still betting the farm its Tommy.
Can't wait until the crossover!
the_firewithin
Member
Is curtis' mask painted on? That's a bigger trip then the braids
Spiritreaver
Member
I miss baby Sara.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Jorok Goldblade
Member
Practically, it's probably a mix of prosthetic, face paint, and liquid latex.
broncobuster
Banned
He has got to break out the T-spheres.
I am loving all the trick arrows this season. I'll assume Curtis made those.
Let's hope they use the second half of the season to differentiate them all. Aside from Ragman, the newbies are all just brawlers.
Jorok Goldblade
Member
I mean, we've already got the evil one and the one who's going to be killed off in the episode before the Spring hiatus...
Barry doesn't.
Septimus Prime
Member
"Wild Dog. Is that what they call you? Do you know what happens to wild dogs that bite at their superiors? They get put down."
*BOOM*
Hiatus.
Lol @ vigilante shooting the truck...everyone turns around...he's gone and they don't even bother chasing him lol
Like he had a split second to disappear and he could have gotten like 5 feet away at best lol
I get the whole disappearing thing is a common superhero trope but they could have done that scene better
Like he had a split second to disappear and he could have gotten like 5 feet away at best lol
I get the whole disappearing thing is a common superhero trope but they could have done that scene better