DC is kinda bi-polar about it too. Sometimes they relax it or allow it to be ignored, and other times they hold firm to the idiotic idea that it would "confuse audiences," like people couldn't tell that the Batman rogues gallery appearing in the Justice League cartoon was different from the movie characters. Plus they allowed part of that rule to be ignored by including Joker in a number of episodes.
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DC is kinda bi-polar about it too. Sometimes they relax it or allow it to be ignored, and other times they hold firm to the idiotic idea that it would "confuse audiences," like people couldn't tell that the Batman rogues gallery appearing in the Justice League cartoon was different from the movie characters. Plus they allowed part of that rule to be ignored by including Joker in a number of episodes.
It was part of DC's Bat-Embargo
http://dcanimated.wikia.com/wiki/Bat-embargo
It was a WB decision as they felt that having Batman or his rogues gallery in another show would confuse people. The only reason I can see that Smallvillie kept going was that Clark wasn't "Superman" in that show. They have had embargos with other major franchises as well.
fallengorn
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If not completely lifted, they at least loosened the embargo. So far we've gotten a mention of Ra's and actual appearances of Deadshot, Firefly, Dollmaker, and the guy who is KGBeast.
Also, listening to the Amell interview and him talking about keeping on good people like EBR gives me hope for Caity Lotz.
Funky Papa
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I didn't know the Bat-bargo was a thing. Did DC/WB hate money? How do you reach the conclusion that putting the Joker in an animated show is going to confuse the viewers? How much of a clown do you have to be to approve of such idiocy?
Rafa=FedKilla
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Eont forget Vibe ia going to be in The Flash series!!!!!!!,
Well, if you look at DC's other decisions regarding comics, we can conclude that they are not fully capable of handling their properties well. And that is an understatement. They are probably happy with the way Arrow turned out to be, but I can guarantee you that some execs fought hard against even this.
BlueScrote
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Season 2 is leaps and bounds better than Season 1.
PHOENIXZERO
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I'm familiar with the Bat-Embargo but Uslan's control over the media rights still plays a part. The rest is WB being run by idiots but that's been well known for a long time now.
Razgriz-Specter
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Guys, Bat-embargo is dead
We went banning the use of most Batman villains on JL(to preserve them for Nolan) to blocking Batman from being on Smallville.
Even blocking Ra's, Talia, Two-Face and Scarecrow from his own dang cartoon.
To recently having Batman in TDKR, extensively in Young Justice, a separate series of video games, his own cartoon in development and multiple appearance/references on Teen Titans Go along with his appearances in just about every DTV from WB all at the same time.
Now with Ra's and his league being mentioned multiple times, it leaves little doubt.
We went banning the use of most Batman villains on JL(to preserve them for Nolan) to blocking Batman from being on Smallville.
Even blocking Ra's, Talia, Two-Face and Scarecrow from his own dang cartoon.
To recently having Batman in TDKR, extensively in Young Justice, a separate series of video games, his own cartoon in development and multiple appearance/references on Teen Titans Go along with his appearances in just about every DTV from WB all at the same time.
Now with Ra's and his league being mentioned multiple times, it leaves little doubt.
PHOENIXZERO
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Watched the interview early this morning.
A Boxing Glove inspired arrow seems like it should be simple enough to implement, shooting it might be tricky but the idea behind it should be based on bean-bag rounds that cops have access to for stopping people in a non-lethal manner. It just wouldn't be ridiculously big... Or shaped like a boxing glove.
A Boxing Glove inspired arrow seems like it should be simple enough to implement, shooting it might be tricky but the idea behind it should be based on bean-bag rounds that cops have access to for stopping people in a non-lethal manner. It just wouldn't be ridiculously big... Or shaped like a boxing glove.
In the grounded world of Arrow?
Even though they're introducing powers, a boxing glove arrow still seems to comicbooky.
Sounds about right. He's used some trick arrows already; hacking arrow, flashbang arrow, audio bug arrow, those net tie-down arrows he used on the moneybags, etc.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Apparently Amell will be at Fan Expo next year. Kinda wanna go!
karasu
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How? Where does this come from?
Future Foundation
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When Ollie returned from the Island, he thought Sara was dead. Initially, we (the audience) thinks it's when she goes overboard during the shipwreck, but we know now that's not true.
At some point, something else is going to happen to make Ollie believe Sara "died". That's where the "again" comes from.
karasu
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Oh okay good. I thought he was hinting that she was going to die and be replaced by Laurel or something.
PHOENIXZERO
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I said it wouldn't be shaped like a boxing glove but the idea behind it would be similar. It's an entirely reasonable way to implement it without going "comicbooky".
Future Foundation
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A new type of "concussion" arrow is created, able to knock someone on their ass. Someone makes a boxing/boxing glove joke, and there we go.
PHOENIXZERO
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Exactly, perfect.
PhoncipleBone
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GrayFoxPL
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I got into it again after injecting the hype from the thread directly into my veins.
It indeed got better, so I'll eat a crow. Crunch. Not a huge one because I still think Amell's acting is cringe worthy, I'm sorry guys. But yeah the show became more "comicky" in a good way, so events sped up nicely. Very nice stunts too.
Was the last episode 9th or did I miss something?
Show needs moar Thea ;P.
It indeed got better, so I'll eat a crow. Crunch. Not a huge one because I still think Amell's acting is cringe worthy, I'm sorry guys. But yeah the show became more "comicky" in a good way, so events sped up nicely. Very nice stunts too.
Was the last episode 9th or did I miss something?
Show needs moar Thea ;P.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Amell is a good dude.
This won't stop the lazy comparisons, though. Unfortunately.
He seems like a great guy.
Those comments, interacting with fans, taking time out to get interviewed and join podcasts etc, doing Q&As.
Wiktor
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Everybody concentrates on Ammell's Shield comment, but I find the movie comparision much more interesting. He's so right. Today TV is easily on the same level as movies. Heck, for comic book stories it's actually superior. If it keeps up by the end of this season Arrow will be easily the very best live action comic book adaptation ever made. Movies might have special effects, but their short run time mean they never are able to fully realize the comic book potential. And I sure as hell care more about Arrow characters than any character in superhero movie. Afterall I've spent like 30 hours with them already.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I already consider Arrow pretty much the best comic book adaptation of anything ever.
A hot guy who's modest is even hotter. *sigh*
PhoncipleBone
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That isn't called Batman: The Animated Series.
The best live action TV adaption, anyway.
It's pretty hard to compare, but yeah, TAS and some of the other DCAU stuff was pretty sublime.
He's right about them using the format to their advantage. Look at how much flak Amazing Spiderman 2 and the Man of Steel sequel are getting for introducing so many new characters and then look at how many characters appeared in the midseason finale of Arrow(even if most used their civvie names); Green Arrow, Black Canary, Flash, Deathstroke, Brother Blood, Solomon Grundy, Shado, Doctor Ivo and Red Arrow. That's not even mentioning the plethora of wider DC references throughout the series. It just works so organically in Arrow.
greendomo's ghost
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Celeb gossip site revealing its blind items today. Saw this:
http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2014/01/blind-items-revealed_5538.html?m=1
Our dreams fulfilled??
http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2014/01/blind-items-revealed_5538.html?m=1
Our dreams fulfilled??
Plasticine
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Well, shit. Though if she's an asshole like that says then I guess I shouldn't feel that bad for her.
And I guess me and NotTheGuy's theory of the Arrow writers just hating the shit out of Cassidy is true.
GrayFoxPL
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NotTheGuyYouKill
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How dare you.
prolly like 5% accuracy
They may try to be more accurate with ones like this though where it will be very obvious if it's untrue. Unlike "Stephen Amell gets off by throwing shrimp at hookers in polar bear costumes." The other thing is, with this type of easily falsifiable rumor why not just never reveal it if it was bullshit?
Byronic Hero
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You take that back. You take that back RIGHT NOW.
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