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These characters are so dumb. Malcom is still alive and fucking them over because they are idiots, not because he is particularly smart or clever.

And now we've reached the beginning of the cycle again, and Malcom is once again up to shenanigans. This time with Darhk, who could've predicted that?

edit: yeah my feelings are summed up by that gif.

Let me sum up the episode in one sole jif.

That will be all from me.

 

[Magwik]

Welcome back to Season 3 territory guys

 

[Johndoey]

Welcome back to Season 3 territory guys

Isn't good to be back.

 

[strafer]

That gif

 

[Joni]

Welcome back to Season 3 territory guys

I thought you at least would be a fan of more Malcolm. All the rest of us want him dead.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

I thought you at least would be a fan of more Malcolm. All the rest of us want him dead.

Yup

 

[doop_]

I am enjoying season 4, season 3 was meh and dull.

 

[TheCowboyPoet]

I am enjoying season 4, season 3 was meh and dull.

Yeah season 4 has been pretty strong. Not season 2 levels of great, but definitely on par with the first season.

 

[GulAtiCa]

Yeah season 4 has been pretty strong. Not season 2 levels of great, but definitely on par with the first season.

Same. I'm enjoying this season. It's been fun.

 

[Magwik]

I thought you at least would be a fan of more Malcolm. All the rest of us want him dead.

It's no fun when even Barrowman begins phoning it in.

 

[Joni]

It's no fun when even Barrowman begins phoning it in.

They can't use the stunt double without the mask.

 

[cw_sasuke]

What a horrible fight.. Ollie dominating Malcom in his casual jacket is stupid. Why do they care so little about important fights in this show? Same for Season 3 Ollie final encounter against Ras that joke was a fight compared to the battles against Merlin or Slade in earlier seasons.

The league itself was a joke anyway with ever member being canon Fodder for 2 seasons already.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

What a horrible fight.. Ollie dominating Malcom in his casual jacket is stupid. Why do they care so little about important fights in this show? Same for Season 3 Ollie final encounter against Ras that joke was a fight compared to the battles against Merlin or Slade in earlier seasons.

The league itself was a joke anyway with ever member being canon Fodder for 2 seasons already.

Grundy beating the shit out of Ollie is the peak of fighting on this show.

 

[Johndoey]

Hopefully something interesting comes out of this kid (maybe) getting iced.

 

[kylecoley182]

Connor Hawke is Diggles son

 

[ZeroX03]

Connor Hawke is Diggles son

That would be hype.

 

[Joni]

But he only has a daughter.

 

[ZeroX03]

But he only has a daughter.

So far.

 

[morningbus]

Aren't they meeting Connor pretty far into the future?

It's probably Diggle's Grandson (which would explain the last name change, too).

 

[ZeroX03]

Aren't they meeting Connor pretty far into the future?

It's probably Diggle's Grandson (which would explain the last name change, too).

It's

Spoiler

2046

. Not far enough for a grandchild really.

I'm totally down for Connor Hawke being a Diggle relative. Great idea. An awesome way to keep things in the 'family'.

 

[Joni]

Could be the son of Andy Jr Diggle. Or depending on Connor's age, Diggle could get a son by season 10 for this to work.

 

[morningbus]

It's

Spoiler

2046

. Not far enough for a grandchild really.

I'm totally down for Connor Hawke being a Diggle relative. Great idea. An awesome way to keep things in the 'family'.

Just checked some interviews and it looks like it's actually

Spoiler

2146

. Source for that spoiler: http://www.ksitetv.com/interviews-2...-talking-spoilers-with-ep-phil-klemmer/92651/

 

[ZeroX03]

Just checked some interviews and it looks like it's actually

Spoiler

2146

. Source for that spoiler: http://www.ksitetv.com/interviews-2...-talking-spoilers-with-ep-phil-klemmer/92651/

That was a typo/mistake.

 

[The Silver]

I miss Roy, im starting to get flip withdrawal

 

[morningbus]

That was a typo/mistake.

Ah, missed the correction. And they repeat the number so many times in that interview, too.

 

[Joni]

I miss Roy, im starting to get flip withdrawal

That one episode at least showed how much he is missed in the team dynamic.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

So was Roy no longer being a regular because his contract ran up and Colton Haynes didn't want to renew for another season as a regular or did the writers write him out because they wanted Thea to take up the mantle of his position on the team and always planned on him being only there for a few seasons?

 

[Dalek]

This show just needs a major shake up to be fresh again. It's been stale for a long time and it's just such a chore to watch.

I can't even figure out what it would be. The League is boring. Malcolm is boring. Oliver is boring! The flashbacks are boring.

I thought the introduction of magic into this season would be a jolt in the arm but it's barely been an addition at all-just Damien always TKing Oliver's arrows.

 

[ZeroX03]

So was Roy no longer being a regular because his contract ran up and Colton Haynes didn't want to renew for another season as a regular or did the writers write him out because they wanted Thea to take up the mantle of his position on the team and always planned on him being only there for a few seasons?

When Colton joined the show it was for a two year stint only. Everyone involved agreed. Between Teen Wolf and Arrow, it seems he doesn't want to stay attached to any show for too long.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

When Colton joined the show it was for a two year stint only. Everyone involved agreed. Between Teen Wolf and Arrow, it seems he doesn't want to stay attached to any show for too long.

Ah right, thanks for clearing that up. I wonder why, both shows would gladly keep him around.

I remember once reading rumors that Colton booked the Arrow role while he was still attached to Teen Wolf and the crew of that show only found out after he got cast. Wonder if that was ever actually true.

 

[DeathyBoy]

Welcome back to Season 3 territory guys

I hope not. Season 3's thread was the most miserable, unreadable, joyless thing I've ever come across on Neogaf.

 

[- J - D -]

It's not season 3 redux because Felicity is actually pretty good this season.

So the show pays the price for that by sacrificing everyone else to the idiot farm.

 

[Joni]

I hope not. Season 3's thread was the most miserable, unreadable, joyless thing I've ever come across on Neogaf.

Indeed. We should never go back there.

I remember once reading rumors that Colton booked the Arrow role while he was still attached to Teen Wolf and the crew of that show only found out after he got cast. Wonder if that was ever actually true.

I don't know if that is how it went, but it was at least after filming the finale because his character just got written out in the third season premiere.

 

[anaron]

I so love that Funky is a mod now

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

I don't know if that is how it went, but it was at least after filming the finale because his character just got written out in the third season premiere.

Teen Wolf definitely had major plans for his character. There was a bunch of cut story-lines for him, that ended up being used for other characters on the show in later seasons. I never particularly cared for his character and I found him more likable as Roy so I won't complain.

 

[strafer]

 

[Blader]

I actually like, contrary to others here, that Ollie can so effortlessly beat down Malcolm now, but I do wish there had been more to the fight. They were building it up as this years-in-the-making rematch to the death and it was over in 30 seconds.

Also, I know this isn't new to this season, but I always laugh at the thought of the League carrying around these huge ass torches everywhere they go and setting them up in a very decorative fashion to designate random warehouses and rooftops (where hundreds of people in nearby buildings could've very easily watched the whole fight?) as sacred places.

 

[ZeroX03]

If they were stretched for budget, they should've just had Malcolm obviously give up. Like blatantly. Not a half hearted looking mess of a fight from everyone involved, especially when it invokes imagery from TWO of the best fights on the show (Sacrifice/The Calm).

They can't do it every episode, but a time and money saving Indiana Jones style instant fight ender can work very well too.

 

[Chuckie]

Lol. Anti-anti-life arrow?

 

[Johndoey]

Anybody remember that time Dinah got pissed at Oliver because he was raped?

Lol. Anti-anti-life arrow?

It works in context. Kinda

Maybe now that Malcom is missing a hand you can put him in jail.



Or at least call up Mayor Snart to deal with him.

God that episode was so damn bad. Press the fuck off button to escape the secure secret facility.

 

[Chase17]

Maybe now that Malcom is missing a hand you can put him in jail.



Or at least call up Mayor Snart to deal with him.

 

[Joni]

If they were stretched for budget, they should've just had Malcolm obviously give up. Like blatantly. Not a half hearted looking mess of a fight from everyone involved, especially when it invokes imagery from TWO of the best fights on the show (Sacrifice/The Calm).

They can't do it every episode, but a time and money saving Indiana Jones style instant fight ender can work very well too.

If Malcolm had just given up, it just doesn't work. Then he can't blame Oliver.

 

[ZeroX03]

If Malcolm had just given up, it just doesn't work. Then he can't blame Oliver.

It's Malcolm, of course he can. That behanding was pretty shame inducing.

 

[Makonero]

It's Malcolm, of course he can. That behanding was pretty shame inducing.

Behanding is my new favorite word

 

[Johndoey]

Malcolm needs a sick robot hand to get back in the game. And he needs to bring Tommy back to life. Probably get some sword fighting lessons. Buy a gun or something. Maybe leave the city for a while.
Gotta reevaluate his choices in life.

 

[Calm waterfall]

Welcome back to Season 3 territory guys

Not even close. This season is amazing. It´s better than the Flash, and the last episode of Arrow was better than the Flash. All the Flash had last week was mostly fan service.

 

[ZeroX03]

Not even close. This season is amazing. It´s better than the Flash, and the last episode of Arrow was better than the Flash. All the Flash had last week was mostly fan service.

There's some obviously problematic stuff in Arrow that becomes evident the more the show goes on, but I certainly enjoy the show more than S3 and think it's found a comfortable groove. Flashbacks are something they really need to go big with in S5 and then finish permanently because they're dead air for two years now.

The Diana/Hal/Bruce fan service annoyed me. You could've put Max, Johnny and Bart there and I would have lost my shit by referencing characters we can actually meet.

 

[Emwitus]

There were so many things wrong with how they portrayed the league but i will start with this. Even with budget constraints and all, why the hack do they make the league's layer look like its right accros the parking lot? I mean the arrow team just shows up there in the same clothes they'd show up to a coffee cafe with. Why not have them wear puff coats and boots to show some sort of travelling happened? Small things like that destroy the atmosphere of a show for me.

 

[Magwik]

Regarding the league noting makes sense about it. The writers went on record saying that their end goal for S3 was to have Malcom at the head of the League (without knowing how to get there) only to do absolutely nothing with that idea in S4, and then throw them away. It was an absolute waste of everyone's time.

 

[Chariot]

How much is left of the league anyway? They regularly got their ass kicked by Team Arrow wandering into their HQ, Malcom was burning them at a whim, then this internal struggle things. The league can't have possibility have tens of thousands of trained assassins. The HQ should've just been called Mookland.