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[Coffee Dog]

Er, what?

What more believable reason for a relationship to break up then loss of trust is there? That's very realistic.

Also the protagonist isn't be a dick for no reason. He was told he couldn't have a relationship with his son if he told anyone. Hence he didn't tell anyone because having that relationship is important (and Guggenheim agrees).

He could just tell Felicity (because it's a big deal, and he trusts her and is going to marry her) and just, you know, not tell the ex girlfriend. And I only say it's not believable because Oliver seems to trust Felicity with everything else; this is only an exception because this relationship needs to end because the powers at be say so.

 

[Black-Wind]

He could just tell Felicity (because it's a big deal, and he trusts her and is going to marry her) and just, you know, not tell the ex girlfriend. And I only say it's not believable because Oliver seems to trust Felicity with everything else; this is only an exception because this relationship needs to end because the powers at be say so.

There's also the fact that it's a completely unreasonable request on her part and she can't do shit about it legally if he did tell someone.

It's just fabricated soooo drama bullshit :/

 

[Joni]

It is clear that the episode didn't have Felicity drama, so we're already predicting Felicity drama for weeks in the future.

 

[Septimus Prime]

Felicity is this show's Urkel.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

He could just tell Felicity (because it's a big deal, and he trusts her and is going to marry her) and just, you know, not tell the ex girlfriend. And I only say it's not believable because Oliver seems to trust Felicity with everything else; this is only an exception because this relationship needs to end because the powers at be say so.

Add in the fact that we now know that Merlin knows about him it becomes even more stupid .
Along with other factors like how would she even know if he tells anyone etc etc etc
The whole thing make no sense other than to fabricated stupid love drama .

EDIT side note i really like the music when oliver and merlin fight .
Remind of season 1 and 2 music .

 

[RatskyWatsky]

Wait why aren't they removing their shirts now that Nyssa isn't fighting?

(I thought the same thing)

At the League water cooler,

"I heard Ra's* 2 fought Ra's* 3 to make Ra's* 1's daughter Ra's* 4. Four Ra's* in a year.

*Raysh

 

[Joni]

Guys, don't be stupid, there is a clear reason why they didn't remove shirts in this fight. Think of the outrage when Nyssa shows

Spoiler

that Barrowman isn't a muscled god

People would freak out, mothers would call for a ban on the show.

 

[TheOddOne]

- CBR: "Arrow" Brings Back Amy Gumenick as

Spoiler

Cupid

.
- Collider: ‘Arrow': Katrina Law on Season 4 and Nyssa’s Place in Oliver’s Team.
- A|V Club: Arrow dives back into League of Assassins politics, for better or worse.

 

[Joni]

- CBR: "Arrow" Brings Back Amy Gumenick as

Spoiler

Cupid

..

Spoiler

It is nice to see the 'Suicide Squad' problems aren't impacting her return. She fits very well within a 'lighter' Arrow.

 

[ZeroX03]

Spoiler

It is nice to see the 'Suicide Squad' problems aren't impacting her return. She fits very well within a 'lighter' Arrow.

Spoiler

The embargo would never affect her, she's not in the movie (and never will be) and she's actually a Green Arrow character. Created by Kreisberg no less. That's as safe as it gets. They should've never bothered trying to tease Harley and just used her from the beginning.

 

[Joni]

Spoiler

The embargo would never affect her, she's not in the movie (and never will be) and she's actually a Green Arrow character. Created by Kreisberg no less. That's as safe as it gets. They should've never bothered trying to tease Harley and just used her from the beginning.

Spoiler

More related to the discussion we had here a couple of days ago, that since she was in custody of ARGUS as Suicide Squad, it would be difficult to bring her back.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Is it me or is the league not only weak but dumb? Ollie now had to depose 2 Ras'es for them and elect a new one by passing on a fucking ring.

Really like Ollie's conclusion though, long time coming. Though kinda odd Felicity would push so hard for Ollie to kill Malcolm. She probably has the lowest stakes on the issue.

 

[ZeroX03]

Spoiler

More related to the discussion we had here a couple of days ago, that since she was in custody of ARGUS as Suicide Squad, it would be difficult to bring her back.

Spoiler

Not really at all, she was just an ARGUS prisoner who was inducted into the Squad. They don't have to mention the Squad at all. It seems to be specific characters off limits, not the whole Suicide Squad and everyone ever involved in it. There's just enough people off limits not to bother with it, but ARGUS is still around and Lyla's back there.

 

[Magwik]

I have $20 on Merlyn stealing Dahrks magic powers at the end of the season

 

[gundamkyoukai]

I have $20 on Merlyn stealing Dahrks magic powers at the end of the season

Merlyn needs to get power up so he can get kill in season 5 .
Which should also be the last year for flashbacks .

 

[jon bones]

pretty ready for the show to wind down... if lot shows up in a wb movie i'm gonna laugh so hard

 

[Joni]

pretty ready for the show to wind down... if lot shows up in a wb movie i'm gonna laugh so hard

Even if that is the case, winding down the LoA is a good move. They have been played out, better to retire them completely.

 

[strafer]

Episode was okay, but the flashbacks continues to be the worst part of the show.

 

[The Silver]

Episode was okay, but the flashbacks continues to be the worst part of the show.

I don't even know what's going on there, I just completely tune out when the island stuff comes on.

 

[CloudWolf]

I don't even know what's going on there, I just completely tune out when the island stuff comes on.

You just know that it's going to lead to something that turns out to be vital for beating Dahrk.

 

[foxtrot3d]

Episode was okay, but the flashbacks continues to be the worst part of the show.

Indeed, however, for once in a long while the flashback actually tied thematically to the current day plot. Also, this season better end with the death of Malcolm Merlyn, shit is getting ridiculous now. These writers love Barrowman but they need to accept that his character has run his use and needs to fucking die.

i called it when we first met his son that he was going to be the grave

Nah, kid's mom is going to be in the grave and then Oliver will have to actually take charge of raising his son with (or without) Felicity.

 

[Dual Blade]

Ollie beat Merlin like he was a random mook, too OP, pls nerf in next patch

The way I see it a Slade trained Ollie and a League trained Malcolm were matches. However a Slade+Ra's trained Ollie beat Malcolm who was handed the title of Ra's.

 

[strafer]

Am I supposed to feel bad for crippled Felicity? Is that what the script strives for? Because she is even more annoying right now.

Not really, well I'm not anyway, she will walk again and be back to her goofy old self.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

Am I supposed to feel bad for crippled Felicity? Is that what the script strives for? Because she is even more annoying right now.

Maybe when it first happen but we far past that point now .
She was not even a big part of this ep .

 

[morningbus]

Am I supposed to hate that bitch eating crackers?

 

[Sesuadra]

oh my fucking god, so this is going to lead to oliver and felicity breaking up over oliver lying about his son. Fuck off, arrow writers. Christ. If you need them to break up, do it for believable reasons, not having the now trusting, nice guy oliver suddenly break character and lie to his fucking girlfriend and have that break of characterization be the lynchpin of it.

There are ways to end relationships that don't involve our hero protagonist being fucking dicks for nonsensical reasons. Barry did this dumb ass shit, and now is Oliver. Ugh. I would have preferred Felicity dying over this horrible shit.

I think the same. Somehow this is all really unbelievable :/

 

[Htown]

Am I supposed to hate that bitch eating crackers?

Basically.

 

[TheOMan]

Am I supposed to feel bad for crippled Felicity? Is that what the script strives for? Because she is even more annoying right now.

I'm having trouble believing she's crippled because her calves are on point.

 

[Joni]

Am I supposed to feel bad for crippled Felicity? Is that what the script strives for? Because she is even more annoying right now.

You're supposed to look at her and think, great, she is in a wheelchair but she can still do regular stuff. So it is uplifting for differently abled people to be glad to have someone on television.

 

[Makonero]

Guys guys guys


Best villain team-up name:

Dahrk Archer

 

[TheCowboyPoet]

Merlyn needs to get power up so he can get kill in season 5 .
Which should also be the last year for flashbacks .

Yeah cause season 6 will have FLASHFORWARDS!!!

Spoiler

The first set of flashforwards will feature Oliver depressed and telling Sara that they "need to go back".

 

[Darth Pinche]

I'm having trouble believing she's crippled because her calves are on point.

LOL! I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed.

It was also a lucky thing the fight on the roof of the old downtown building was wheelchair accessible.

 

[TheDanger]

anyone else totally forgot that oliver married nyssa?

 

[strafer]

anyone else totally forgot that oliver married nyssa?

Yes husband.

 

[Luigi87]

anyone else totally forgot that oliver married nyssa?

I did, lol

 

[Darth Pinche]

I forgot he had a kid too.

 

[strafer]

I thought Oliver Queens son was named Connor.

 

[Joni]

I thought Oliver Queens son was named Connor.

He was in the comics. But let's be honest, would it be weird if Oliver Queen had another son running around?

 

[fallengorn]

He was in the comics. But let's be honest, would it be weird if Oliver Queen had another son running around?

He does have a lot of free time with Taiana in that cell on the island.

 

[TheDanger]

I thought Oliver Queens son was named Connor.

if you're confusing Oliver Queen with Angel something isn't right.

He was in the comics. But let's be honest, would it be weird if Oliver Queen had another son running around?

oh well

 

[Jorok Goldblade]

Guys guys guys


Best villain team-up name:

Dahrk Archer

Now recruit Slade. (Please be a Guggenheim lies case here...)

 

[Sesuadra]

This is the first episode this season I really did not like.

Just..bad in my book.
The fights, the story of the episode..it was just a mess and boring for me.

 

[Johndoey]

So really Oliver should've just killed Nyssa and Malcom become Demon Head and apparently you can then just disband that shit.

 

[strafer]

Guess we all got the D.

 

[Volimar]

Was there any doubt?



Are we ever going to get a Vandal Savage reconstitution scene or is that just considered a done deal?

 

[fallengorn]

Are we ever going to get a Vandal Savage reconstitution scene or is that just considered a done deal?

My guess is

Spoiler

it'll be in Legends of Tomorrow. There's no reason for that in Arrow, unless he's back in Season 5.

 

[Joni]

Guess we all got the D.

I'm still thinking A will happen later in the season.

 

[brotkasten]

Watching right now and the crime street scene with Lance somehow looked like the fakest set ever. I have no idea why I'm thinking that, but it somehow looked bad.

Also, how fucking stupid was Nyssa to not bring backup?

 

[Wozzly]

Watching right now and the crime street scene with Lance somehow looked like the fakest set ever. I have no idea why I'm thinking that, but it somehow looked bad.

It did but I wished we had more fight scenes among the citizens of Star City instead of in the usual warehouse or roof tops (really the League dragged those fire pits to the roof?).

It was chaotic with citizens taking arrows to the chest as they're running away. It had potential. Reminded me of when Slade's army rampaged through the city or when the earthquake machine was going off when Thea pleaded to Roy to take the AT&T Don't Text and Drive Pledge.

 

[Septimus Prime]

Watching right now and the crime street scene with Lance somehow looked like the fakest set ever. I have no idea why I'm thinking that, but it somehow looked bad.

Also, how fucking stupid was Nyssa to not bring backup?

"Oh, no! There are four or so League mooks that I've been killing without breaking a sweat for years! Run!"

And then there's also that awesome part where Ra's al Ghul, plus like another four League guys, can't push Oliver out of the way.