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Asian last names lead to fewer job interviews
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MFW I read that quote:
Beating all other races down? That's kind of what white people did.
It's not just race though, it's gender and sexual orientation too.
More varied people in HR? Is that even the case here - is HR a white dominated field? Does the same problem apply when nonwhite people are in charge of hiring? Something that needs to be looked into.
Stabby McSter
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my last name is pretty "...wait what is that" that i still get interviews
but i've always wondered this
but i've always wondered this
You are a part of the problem.
You probably don't realize it, but you are doing your [small] part in upholding and perpetuating White Supremacy.
From someone who has an Asian first name, and Asian middle name, and an Asian last name: THANKS FOR MAKING OUR LIVES HARDER FOR NO GOOD REASON!
He was absolutely right to point out what a disgrace you are to the industry.
Your embarrassment is not more important than their chance to be fairly considered for the jobs that they are applying for.
As long as the fob stereotype exists, there's nothing we can really do. I guess there needs to be a push for more asians in communication related fields.
We are.
But that just means that White cops don't shoot us within seconds (most of the time....) like they would with black guys, and, that we will be one of the last groups to be jailed and/or deported.
And.
We.
Shouldn't.
Fucking.
Have.
To.
Be.
While you are right about how over time certain groups that were previously considered not White were gradually accepted under the privileged umbrella of White, I think you are wrong about the poster's reaction.
Italian Americans, or Polish Americans, or German Americans, etc. all have the advantage of looking virtually identical to Anglo-Americans. The children and grandchildren of Italian Americans, or Polish Americans, or German Americans, etc. look no different from the children and grandchildren of Anglo-Americans.
We, as people of Asian descent, will never look like Anglos.
And.
We.
Shouldn't.
Fucking.
Have.
To.
Square Triangle
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I really hope you don't work for a company that's of all that importance then. Wow.
Fortunately people who are not you have actually made an effort to fix this problem instead of dismissing it so easily.
https://www.theguardian.com/sustain...mp-out-bias-but-can-it-prevent-discrimination
Can you imagine the outcry if this were flipped around?
"Oh, this applicant's name is John Smith. He must be White. We shouldn't hire him because HR is busy enough without having to deal with a racist on staff"
Or
"Shit! This applicant's name is Giles Anderson. He must be White. Don't hire him. We don't want to be in the news for having a guy go crazy one day and go on a shooting spree here!"
Chie Satonaka
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Not shocking.
Still infuriating, but not shocking.
Still infuriating, but not shocking.
UnemployedVillain
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Asian people we tried to warn you. Black people have long since realized this was the case, but some of you took the whole model minority thing as a compliment or something
I live in Vancouver, BC, where White people are the minority and there are A LOT of people of Asian descent.
The company I work for has only had White people do the hiring for my workplace. My coworkers are always shocked when I tell the that it took me 4 tries over a whole year to get hired! They are shocked because they know me to be highly experienced, extremely knowledgeable, and competent in every area I am trained for, so it does not make sense to them that I was unsuccessful 3 times when so many of them (who happen to be White...) got hired on their first try.
Maybe I should legally change my name to Whitey McWhite-White....
squeakywheel
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Have not experienced this. I guess I'm lucky enough i have a Slavic first name and very spanish sounding last name.
Asians have to really make sure we have perfect resumes and cover letter though.
I do interviews at work after HR screens resumes and we also require a written test to be submitted 30min after the interview tho ensure we have a candidate with good communication skills.
Asians have to really make sure we have perfect resumes and cover letter though.
I do interviews at work after HR screens resumes and we also require a written test to be submitted 30min after the interview tho ensure we have a candidate with good communication skills.
WTF is up with these types of posts? Every group has their share of the "good ones" and it's never been exclusive to Asians. Maybe you should think about why you haven't noticed that we've been sitting in the back of the bus and raising hell with you the entire time instead.
Septimus Prime
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Hmm... sounds kind of black. Better not call him.
Its like this thread is a revelation to some people. Asians experience racism, who would have thought?
Also the posts implying its the fault of Asians...
The fucking struggle. Spanish first and last name because my family actually descends from them but I wanna use a different one for the job prospects
Edit: wording
I used to get this a lot in the past. I have a super "white" first name and a Spanish-sounding last name (Filipino, not uncommon).
I've literally been asked "you look white, have a white first name, but Mexican last name? Are you from Hawaii?".
I just said "yes".
Interesting. I've worked with great people of Asian decent. Some foreign, some American. One thing that hit me was the ability to understand someone due to language barriers.
This one guy, a good manufacturing engineer, was particularly hard to understand. He's Vietnamese. His accent was so thick I'd email him usually. He never got promoted despite having a masters and doing all his work. Very knowledgeable about issues too.
Others engineers would approach me with questions because they'd blatantly avoid talking to him. It was sad, but they were trying to work too I guess. Point is, I bet the company I worked for started doing what the article mentioned in the OP.
This one guy, a good manufacturing engineer, was particularly hard to understand. He's Vietnamese. His accent was so thick I'd email him usually. He never got promoted despite having a masters and doing all his work. Very knowledgeable about issues too.
Others engineers would approach me with questions because they'd blatantly avoid talking to him. It was sad, but they were trying to work too I guess. Point is, I bet the company I worked for started doing what the article mentioned in the OP.
Aside from the fact that colour labels are fucking stupid, what do you consider Italians? European non white? Mediterranean? What about blond northern Italians?
Christ, that's fucking awful.
There was a white gaffer named Tyrel
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=162968701&postcount=120
I am still kinda surprised an Asian name would lead to fewer interviews since the model minority stereotype. But Kal Penn Modi said there's a reason he goes by Kal Penn.
echoshifting
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I know this poster has been taken to task but it is appalling to see such destructive, racist behavior so casually admitted to here.
DiipuSurotu
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Is that an actual name in Vietnamese?
http://www.ourbabynamer.com/meaning-of-Viet.html Not very common though apparently.
Edit: Although that may all be people of non Vietnamese ethnicity. So I guess I go back to, I don't know.
Rentahamster
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Oppression Olympics with a side of victim blaming?
dancingphlower
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I actually know a Vietnamese person with that name, it's legit.
paradise_circus
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Delsin Cheema sounds dope, you're hired in my imaginative multi billion dollar company.
I don't know if you're aware but Chinese people were humiliated and even banned from the US for a time, Japanese were thrown into internment camps, Indians and Filipinos are still the open butt of jokes in popular media, and we're all pretty much conflated with one another regardless of nation of origin. We know. And it's not a competition.
thetrin
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What the fuck is this bullshit? You're going to deny someone an opportunity at improving their career because you might say their name wrong?
Anyway, my real name is Indian as fuck: Nayan Ramachandran. You can imagine how many times I've been passed over for job interviews. I'm about as North American as it comes in my accent, my mannerisms, and how I dress. But hey, I have a "weird" name, so fuck that guy.
darkhunger
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I actually know minority HR people who intentionally not hire people of their own race to avoid the stigma that they are being bias towards them. So that might not always work either.
Yeah, like I said. Weird passive aggressive post.
Dusk Soldier
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Depends on the field to be honest.
In something highly specialized (like STEM or IT) it's common for graduates to have weak communication skills. Of course they learn how to communicate with people within their field, but trying to explain highly technical concepts in a way that common everyday people can understand is not easy.
With Asians it's even more difficult because weak communication skills means they won't even be able to speak the native language well.
If you think someone who's gone to college in the US should not have language issues, you're basically admitting you've never taken math or engineering.
SuperStiltzkin
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Sounds too much like Hieu Manh. Might think they're vietnamese.
We know. There's a lot of casual Chinese racism flying around online. You even see it regularly on GAF every time there's a China related thread.
There's always some guy who will walk in and say that Chinese people culturally consider human lives cheap, and will run people over with their cars to save insurance money.
That's like saying that the average American's go-to form of stress relief is to go on a mass shooting.
Ding ding ding, we have a winner.
The Horror the horror
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Not surprised.
The whole "model minority" thing is yet another social device constructed and perpetuated by the establishment to stoke further animosity and envy between minority races.
The whole "model minority" thing is yet another social device constructed and perpetuated by the establishment to stoke further animosity and envy between minority races.
Gully State
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Man or Mann is actually a fairly common Cantonese last name.
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