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Assassin's Creed III |OT| Easier to read than Ratonhnhaké:ton

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Soi-Fong

Member
Will be waiting for the PC version.. Tis will be hard to avoid spoilers till Nov.

At least better textures, DX 11 (tesselation, etc), better draw distance, etc
 
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OmegaZero

Member
About the brown and drab complaints/notes:
There was an interview I read where they were going for an even more drab color palette in the cities because that was basically the way things looked back then.
They toned that down though.

I'll try to find it, but it was only a few paragraphs IIRC.
 
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Amir0x

Banned
Currygan said:
hm, never trust anything you read about George III. Every single historical book will tell you a different tale
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I am a huge Revolutionary War history buff, as you can see from my Assassin's Creed 3: Revolutionary War History and Timeline Discussion topic, so I'm pretty well versed on the complexities of King George as an individual. And while there are many sides to discuss about his character, and he was successful with the Seven Years War, there is little scholarly debate about his complete blinding incoherence with regards to his policy toward the American colonies. He was behind the curve, dangerously narcissistic in his decisions and continually antagonized the colonies when he could have made more sweeping conciliatory gestures. And add to that all the insults swinging from a particular block in Parliament, and things just spiraled out of control where cooler, more sane heads would have prevailed otherwise. The Revolutionary War was a long time coming because there were so many attempts made to avert war, a great majority of them from the colonists themselves.

I just don't know how any historical epic would portray these sides neutrally. History is written by the victors, but it just so happens this time in history is extraordinarily well recorded from spectators on both sides and it's not impossible to get a fairly clear picture of what was going on.

Currygan said:
as for your question, maybe they did the right thing with this game. Connor witnessing the events while carrying on his personal quest
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I would like for Connor to have his own story, though. What I mean is, Connor is still a man of his time... how can he just ignore this huge event in favor of his own personal agenda? I don't think it's very plausible.

But who knows. I'm just curious, because I never thought the AC titles "ignored" history and just used them as lazy backdrops before. I mean, you went about your business, but you were constantly being integrated into historical events or meeting historical characters, and your actions usually impacted both history AND his agenda.
 
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Eideka

Banned
Soi-Fong said:
Will be waiting for the PC version.. Tis will be hard to avoid spoilers till Nov.

At least better textures, DX 11 (tesselation, etc), better draw distance, etc
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Better draw distance and a less agressive LOD are a lock. It was already the case with previous AC games on PC.

But as of now we don't know what the PC will have to offer. Nvidia on their site speak of "several PC only effects" on top of DX11 options.

My dream list would include the following :
DX11 options (tesselation (water, characters, environement), global illumination, bokeh, contact hardening soft shadows, HBAO, object based motion blur, sub-surface scattering, parallax occlusion mapping.
Volumetric lights (god rays) and smoke, soft particles.
Better HDR

MSAA, TXAA, FXAA.

Yeah, I know I will get only a handful of those features.
 
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Soi-Fong

Member
Eideka said:
Better draw distance and a less agressive LOD are a lock. It was already the case with previous AC games on PC.

But as of now we don't know what the PC will have to offer. Nvidia on their site speak of "several PC only effects" on top of DX11 options.

My dream list would include the following :
DX11 options (tesselation (water, characters, environement), global illumination, bokeh, contact hardening soft shadows, HBAO, object based motion blur, sub-surface scattering, parallax occlusion mapping.
Volumetric lights (god rays) and smoke, soft particles.
Better HDR

MSAA, TXAA, FXAA.

Yeah, I know I will get only a handful of those features.
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lol I'm not going in expecting a sort of Sleeping Dogs release which was practically the perfect PC port.
 
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AgentOtaku

Member
Collider said:
But taking it as a whole plot and all, Its really good acc to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rnfg1rDmNIw
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Thank god for this

I mean, I played a good bit of AC1 and finished AC2 (which I loved)
That being said, I simply do not have the time to sink another 20-50 hours in both Brotherhood and Revelations just to get THAT much of essential story.

Yeah yeah yeah, I know how good Brotherhood supposedly is but I just had enough of that type of gameplay with the 50 or so hours I put into AC2.

For what's it's worth, I do find the story interesting but those like 30 seconds or so of the IGN bit where a bit confusing. Is this what people criticize? The overarching plot just becomes silly or somethin?

I still have my AC Encyclopedia on the way from Ubisoft though
 
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SJRB

Gold Member
AgentOtaku said:
Thank god for this

I mean, I played a good bit of AC1 and finished AC2 (which I loved)
That being said, I simply do not have the time to sink another 20-50 hours in both Brotherhood and Revelations just to get THAT much of essential story.

Yeah yeah yeah, I know how good Brotherhood supposedly is but I just had enough of that type of gameplay with the 50 or so hours I put into AC2.

For what's it's worth, I do find the story interesting but those like 30 seconds or so of the IGN bit where a bit confusing. Is this what people criticize? The overarching plot just becomes silly or somethin?

I still have my AC Encyclopedia on the way from Ubisoft though
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It's probably the way the Desmond story arch is handled that annoys people. Certain huge events happen throughout the games but are more or less brushed aside without a proper explenation.

I loved the futuristic angle from the original and ACII, but it became overly complex just for the sake of being complex without actually being complex [if this makes any sense] and having a cliffhanger at the end of the game. I mean, every ending unloads a truckload of information over the player and then says "see you next year, bitches".
 
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Badgerst3

Member
Ubi and rockstar- collaborate on a jack marston and Conner Indian war or civil war title.

No idea how to make the timeline work- just do it! Maybe one third game each character and then final third bring em together.

Hunting competitions, shooting trials, stealh runs, endless....
 
Vire

Vire

Member
Interesting:

Arthur Gies recommends to avoid spoilers on YouTube.

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Hmmm maybe Desmond's stuff?
 
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Hindle

Banned
You got to give Ubi respect for the locations they choose. Just awesome, if they can make the gameplay as engrossing then they will make thier best ever game one day.
 
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Amir0x

Banned
there is a big plot twist that happens early on in Sequence 3 or something that people have vaguely talked about. pretty sure that's it
 
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7echnicolor

Member
CrazyDude said:
Full Welcome to Boston

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aZDV5X67n8E

Full Main Theme

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE0Y5VmkILQ&feature=plcp

Full Modern Assassin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfK91tJjpoM&feature=plcp

Full An Uncertain Present

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83RSeZrTjXA&feature=plcp
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I'm digging the OST so far, I just hate how the tracks are so short.. Idk it just seems lazy IMO. There are ways to extend them, you don't have to write more music, just edit them and make them longer for the soundtrack.

I'm probably the only one with this problem though. lol
 
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Clott

Member
Ughh, haven't touched an AC title since 2, did someone make a YouTube video explaining the story gap of brotherhood and revelations.
 
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DrPirate

Banned
Collider said:
Looks, like different brains, different likeness. But GAF is the only place where I have seen this much hatred.
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It's awesome, the people who do like it, just aren't as vocal.

hell, if I could get a complete game where I play as Desmond in modern times after his Assassin training, I'd be thrilled.
 
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Vinterbird

Member
Amir0x said:
there is a big plot twist that happens early on in Sequence 3 or something that people have vaguely talked about. pretty sure that's it
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This. It's a twist, but not mind altering in any way.

The ending has some twisty stuff, but that would not be something Ubisoft would be promoting anyway.

DrPirate said:
It's awesome, the people who do like it, just aren't as vocal.

hell, if I could get a complete game where I play as Desmond in modern times after his Assassin training, I'd be thrilled.
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Same boat as you on that, but then I played AC3. To be honest I would rather see them go back to Adam and Eve from 2 or do something else totally crazy like a Templar only game from the perspective of Abstergo and Vidic.
 
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Data West

coaches in the WNBA
I ended up preordering. I was going to wait since WWE 13 was going to keep me occupied for a while, but it's hard to beat 47 bucks at Newegg. I bought Most Wanted too.

This is how it should be! I should pay 47 dollars for preordering instead of getting fucked a week later when Amazon has it listed for 50.
 
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Blimblim

The Inside Track
Ubisoft certainly managed to keep quite a few major things under wraps story-wise, the whole beginning of the game was a complete surprise for me, I'm not sure I actually liked it - I still have to see how it develops later on - but it certainly was unexpected.
 
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Guerrillas in the Mist

Member
CrazyDude said:
Full Welcome to Boston

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aZDV5X67n8E

Full Main Theme

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE0Y5VmkILQ&feature=plcp

Full Modern Assassin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfK91tJjpoM&feature=plcp

Full An Uncertain Present

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83RSeZrTjXA&feature=plcp
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As much as I would have preferred Kyd to come back, and even though Lorne Balfe is so clearly Hans Zimmer's understudy, I've been really impressed with the soundtrack. The main theme gives me goosebumps.
 
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Kung Fu Grip

Banned
Vinterbird said:
I think it handles it in the same way that AC2 did, but since I really don't know much about it, it's hard to say how much they actually blend Templar and real history. But the story mainly revolves around Connor going on a revenge tour throughout the country, and the key to get to his goal is being involved with Washington and his gang, and that's how to blend in the historical stuff.

Every now and then the real people will interact with the fictional Templars, but mainly in the context of the political war, and not painting them as indoctrinating them or otherwise making them stand out as evil people.
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Huh? So GW, or any historical character, is not a templar/assassin? :(

AC2 integrated real history with the game world very well.
 
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Vinterbird

Member
ekim said:
Is the twist any surprising for someone like me who has only seen the 5-Minute story summary from the previous games? :eek:

same question goes for the beginning.
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The stuff the game pulls off early in the game has not been communicated to the public, which in itself is a rarity these days, but it is also a good and interesting twist, and gives the game a lot more character as a whole.

Kung Fu Grip said:
Huh? So GW, or any historical character, is not a templar/assassin? :(

AC2 integrated real history with the game world very well.
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I don't know anything about the American revolution, so I can't say for absolute certain, one of the characters in the game might have been a actual historical figure and also a Templar in the game, but I only recognise GW as a person who existed in real life.
 
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CrazyDude

Member
Vinterbird said:
The stuff the game pulls off early in the game has not been communicated to the public, which in itself is a rarity these days, but it is also a good and interesting twist, and gives the game a lot more character as a whole.




I don't know anything about the American revolution, so I can't say for absolute certain, one of the characters in the game might have been a actual historical figure and also a Templar in the game, but I only recognise GW as a person who existed in real life.
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There are actual historical figures who are Templars, I can confirm that.
 
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R_thanatos

Member
petethepanda said:
I still can't believe they kept Lost Archive, with its actual story material, for DLC, while putting in the utterly pointless Desmond fps segments in the game proper. All those revealed were extremely basic and unimportant points of backstory that anybody with a brain had already assumed.
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Just so you know the lost archive dlc are 7 levels of stupid and pointless fps segments ..Aside from "that" reveal , it contain nothing that wasn't present in the other subject 16 reveals...
 
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