Assassin's Creed: Revelations Review Thread
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thanks Blim for the quick reply. 
The crazy thing about PoP, is that I hear they are alpha/beta testing the game right now... But I guess they move the studios to Europe... But then again some of my other friends have said that the game is canceled. Its always in the flux of being made or being canceled.
I was just wondering what has happened as on Wiki page POP 2012 project has been stated to be in development. ?_?
The crazy thing about PoP, is that I hear they are alpha/beta testing the game right now... But I guess they move the studios to Europe... But then again some of my other friends have said that the game is canceled. Its always in the flux of being made or being canceled.
I was just wondering what has happened as on Wiki page POP 2012 project has been stated to be in development. ?_?Blimblim said:Tearing and bad framerates are two sides of the same problem. One doesn't go without the other
Yeah, I edited in "per se".
My point is that if the tearing was a problem, then it either wasn't beforehand (v-sync was present in v1.00 but later removed to increase performance) or now isn't (v-sync patched in at the cost of performance).The only reason I remember this at all is because somebody in particular was dumbfounded that AC2 PS3 made no use of v-sync since it was/is present in the original.
The_Darkest_Red
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Ugh, that does sound kind of interesting. Still, I will resist and buy it sometime on sale or early next year. Tomorrow is Rayman + Skyrim day.Blimblim said:
BGE2 is "in development" too, it doesn't mean there is an actual production team on it though. A skeleton crew of a few people working on prototypes and concepts is enough to keep a project alive in case someone decides to give the green light to production.Zapages said:thanks Blim for the quick reply.
The crazy thing about PoP, is that I hear they are alpha/beta testing the game right now... But I guess they move the studios to Europe... But then again some of my other friends have said that the game is canceled. Its always in the flux of being made or being canceled.
fierrotlepou
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Someone needs to tell me why these games are so popular. I know it pissed me off that I couldn't even crouch in what was supposed to be a stealthy/assassin game. It's just more of the same...
Don't hurt me. Please?
ProfessorMoran
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Blimblim said:
That's way too many cooks in the kitchen.
Muffdraul
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Tadale said:
To me, "backlash" vis a vis game reviews means punishing the game/developer with extremely harsh criticism and low scores. I'm not seeing that here. I'm seeing reviewers, who are probably not "emotionally invested" in AC as someone like me is, mention that there have been a lot of AC games in a short amount of time. Which is true. And the scores aren't bad at all.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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LiK said:
Yeah, just saw about that in a video review. I'm still pretty hyped for this.
Going to try to pick it up on the Black Friday sale.
Zapages said:right... Very true... I guess when something is good they will go with the production team and go from there. Thanks dude.
I am still go to BB for AC: R 35 dollars is a steal for this game.
You Americans have these heavy discounts or B2G1F deals so often that I find myself wondering why you (as a people in general, not the singular) complain about the $60 RRP.
Roland Deschain
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Surprising scores. Was expecting 9's across the board. Still, I enjoyed the first 3 iterations so I'll still get this one when it's cheap.
Maybe it's just me, but even though I greatly enjoy the games, i'm just tired of the Renaissance, Italy, and Ezio.
I mean sure, I love the character, but at this point it almost feels like the entire series takes place in Italy. There was all that awesome concept are from a while back that showed a ton of assassins from different countries and time periods, and with a yearly series, I think a change of palette would work wonders for my own personal enjoyment with the series. Even though with each iteration the mechanics are great, the additions are nice and feel nice, and it always feels like a more polished game, since the setting stagnates, it feels more of the same while really changing it up in great ways just because of where/when the game takes place.
I think it's one thing that a yearly franchise like CoD gets right, in that they alternate between setting/time period with each release so it at least feels somewhat different (though to the degree of how much is definitely up for debate). I think if the AC franchise was not a yearly series anymore, and had 2-3 years spacing out each release, a lot of the reviews for the game would feel different, even if it kept Ezio for 3 games. When it's so consecutive, it's easy to get bored fast.
I would kill for a modern day AC, and then the next year set it in ancient China, and then the next year either modern again or a totally new setting. Taking the art and time period into consideration, I think a lot more variety could be added to the game by simply using different technologies from those time periods.
Either way, I look forward to getting my hands on the PC version because I genuinely enjoy the series and each iteration... When it finally comes out, that is.
I mean sure, I love the character, but at this point it almost feels like the entire series takes place in Italy. There was all that awesome concept are from a while back that showed a ton of assassins from different countries and time periods, and with a yearly series, I think a change of palette would work wonders for my own personal enjoyment with the series. Even though with each iteration the mechanics are great, the additions are nice and feel nice, and it always feels like a more polished game, since the setting stagnates, it feels more of the same while really changing it up in great ways just because of where/when the game takes place.
I think it's one thing that a yearly franchise like CoD gets right, in that they alternate between setting/time period with each release so it at least feels somewhat different (though to the degree of how much is definitely up for debate). I think if the AC franchise was not a yearly series anymore, and had 2-3 years spacing out each release, a lot of the reviews for the game would feel different, even if it kept Ezio for 3 games. When it's so consecutive, it's easy to get bored fast.
I would kill for a modern day AC, and then the next year set it in ancient China, and then the next year either modern again or a totally new setting. Taking the art and time period into consideration, I think a lot more variety could be added to the game by simply using different technologies from those time periods.
Either way, I look forward to getting my hands on the PC version because I genuinely enjoy the series and each iteration... When it finally comes out, that is.
It's kinda amusing that this game's defense force is essentially demanding better scores just because MW3 got 9's and 10's. "This other crappy annual game got a great score, so the crappy annual game I like should have gotten a great score too!"
Honestly, I like that reviewers are willing to shave off a point for unimaginative annual sequels that still retain quality but add little to the formula.
I hope this just pushes Ubisoft towards making a game that actually develops the story, gameplay, and settings further. It seems pretty clear that the last two have been treading water.
Honestly, I like that reviewers are willing to shave off a point for unimaginative annual sequels that still retain quality but add little to the formula.
I hope this just pushes Ubisoft towards making a game that actually develops the story, gameplay, and settings further. It seems pretty clear that the last two have been treading water.
The Antitype
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I love how every Modern Warfare 3 review says 'it's more of the same'... and then it gets 9s.
AC is more of the same, but it only warrants 7s and 8s.
Whatever. I know its the game I'll enjoy most this year.
AC is more of the same, but it only warrants 7s and 8s.
Whatever. I know its the game I'll enjoy most this year.
Zapages said:right... Very true... I guess when something is good they will go with the production team and go from there. Thanks dude.
I am still go to BB for AC: R 35 dollars is a steal for this game.
Hmm... how well did The Forgotten Sands do in sales? I really hope the sequel to '08 is still alive somewhere, in some design doc or concept artist's desk.
benny lava
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infinityBCRT said:
Agree 100%. All I want out of Revelations is the conclusion of Ezio's story and for the gameplay not to drop off from Brotherhood. Nothing in the reviews I've read so far leads me to believe that I will be disappointed. Very much looking forward to this one.
Nuclear Muffin
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Seems like Ubisoft is running out of bribe money!
The Omega Man
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JaseC said:
This is quite possible the best thing AC1 had and that was somehow MIA in the sequels, the feeling of stalking your prey and planing for the right moment was replaced for a more scripted-action oriented way of doing things.
The Renaissance is a time period of a cultural and technological movement, not a place, in which the game (Ezio portions) takes place.DaBuddaDa said:
As for Italy yes, I do see that it's away from that for much of the game (based on what i'm reading in these reviews.
Also from the reviews, they all seem to mention that the Altair and Desmond quests seem to be much shorter in the game when compared to the Ezio portions, proportionally speaking that is. I guess I would just like to see more of them maybe, or just a new character.
ViewtifulJC
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Zapages said:
Good, because Forgotten Sands was shit, it made Warrior Within look like Sands of Time
CrazyDude said:
Looking at the Metacritic page for MW3, it looks like very few reputable sites actually gave it a score above 9.
"The last two" games I was referring to are Revelations and Brotherhood. Probably could have phrased it better.
I was interested to see where the story would go after AC2, but the cash-ins that followed make me worried that I won't be able to jump back in once they actually produce a proper sequel.
Angry Fork
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I'm surprised by these scores, something tells me they're pulling the Uncharted 3 logic where they're annoyed by 'more of the same' rather than judging it on it's own merits. Brotherhood added so much shit and improved upon part 2 and I would surmise Revelations did the same. But even if it doesn't it should still get similar scores imo. Not every sequel has to revamp everything and be revolutionary.
Gonna read some of the reviews now though to see the justification. I don't hold a lot of weight with reviewers these days because most of them seem like blabbering elitist douchebags but usually they would circle jerk a game this popular and give it glowing reviews even if it didn't deserve it. So if someone 'important' gives it a 7 then something must really be off.
Gonna read some of the reviews now though to see the justification. I don't hold a lot of weight with reviewers these days because most of them seem like blabbering elitist douchebags but usually they would circle jerk a game this popular and give it glowing reviews even if it didn't deserve it. So if someone 'important' gives it a 7 then something must really be off.
infinityBCRT
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GT review mentioned Desmond stuff isn't essential to beating the game, but neither was any of the Truth/Subject 16 stuff in previous games either. But I'd STRONGLY recommend everyone to do those things as they were probably some of the best parts of the previous games and I expect the Desmond stuff to be similar here.Zapages said:
The Renaissance was as much a place as it was a cultural and technological movement. It was a cultural and technological movement that occurred in a specific region of Europe, namely Italy. I guarantee you the tone and character of Constantinople will be very, very different from say, Florence. Perhaps you're more sick of the wider, more general time period of the 15th/16th century, and the technology that naturally is available during those times?Thoraxes said:
bigdaddygamebot
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Ubisoft has gone to the well too many times and I can't help but think it's affected their review scores.
I find it really difficult to get excited about another renaissance game with Ezio.
I'll wait for a significant price drop before picking it up.
I find it really difficult to get excited about another renaissance game with Ezio.
I'll wait for a significant price drop before picking it up.
PooBone
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I have to imagine reviewers are docking it for being similar to 2 and Brotherhood. 3 games with the same protagonist and similar structure and whatnot within three Novembers. Not swaying me at all. I'm picking it up tomorrow. I expect next year we'll see a pretty sizable jolt to the formula, seeing as it's 2012, which is what the entire series has been leading towards. They could literally take it anywhere they want post 1500's. I'm excited for Revelations single player and multiplayer, (even though I think I only hit level 8 in Brotherhood, I still loved it) but next year should be something special.
LightOfTruth
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Good. Maybe now Ubi can Fuck off.
Reticent Rhino
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I'm sure iNvidious01's AC3 |OT| will have you covered.dream said:
clutch.as.it.gets.
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Interfectum said:
I agree. But you have to undertstand that reviews are more deceptive marketing than honest reviews. Thats how this buisness works. The holliday season has to have the "big" and "best game of all time" type of games, and the "reviews" make sure that the gamer believe they are there even if they aren`t. Its shit, but... yeah... thats how it works.
ClosingADoor
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Might be. It at least keeps things interesting, them taking place in different time periods and telling different stories.ultron87 said:
But COD is basicly in the same line as Madden and FIFA, a lot of people buy it each year anyway. For some reason, Assassin's Creed doesn't really feel like a franchise they should release each year (at least to me). Maybe it's because it isn't a multiplayer heavy title.
Ok, how about this: No Europe from 1400-1700 in future Assassin's Creed games?DaBuddaDa said:
Ezio still uses technology he received from Renaissance Italy when he fights, still speaks Italian, Leonardo still makes inventions, the Church is still a bunch of assholes, the older style Templars are still trying to get rid of the Assassins, etc. I am sick of the Renaissance as a whole, all of it, from all countries that experienced their own in any fashion whether or not it be similar to Italy's or not. I'm sick of the entire time period in which the Ezio portion of the game takes place, and all of the tropes, mechanics, social interactions, people, communities, architecture, art, music, inventions, weapons, ruling systems, technology, and places featured during that time period in the game.
Yes, the game still takes place during the Renaissance, and each country had their own movement of it during this time period. It is agreed by many (though not completely confirmed) that it did most likely begin in Italy.
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