Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
It's on Ubisoft+, but that's only for PC and Xbox, not PlayStation.
PauloRoberto
Member
God damm it, how I hate those useless stats... who the hell cares about 'number of petted animals'. Only idiots do not realize the smoke screen to hide the obvious fact: one more AC game that did not set the world on fire and came and went almost like a wet fart.
Angry_Megalodon
Member
3.5M sales approx.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Basically! Will probably end the year with 5 million total sales.
crazyriddler
Member
There could have been many more if they hadn't turned half of the potential buyers against them by forcing ideology on them.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
It's the best AC game they have made since Origins 8 years ago, but there is still a lot of classic Ubisoft bullshit in there that holds it back like a 100 hour campaign, and a story that literally goes nowhere.
They need to hire better storytellers. Watchdogs Legion, Far Cry 6, Avatar, Outlaws, and now this. Every single game has literally the worst story and storytelling ive seen in a game this gen. They are consistently bad. Look at how Sony studios handle stories. Hire good actors, create some meaningful characters, and add some story beats that surprise people. it's not that hard. you are spending $200 million on the game. Pay a hollywood writer a million to write a somewhat decent story.
They need to hire better storytellers. Watchdogs Legion, Far Cry 6, Avatar, Outlaws, and now this. Every single game has literally the worst story and storytelling ive seen in a game this gen. They are consistently bad. Look at how Sony studios handle stories. Hire good actors, create some meaningful characters, and add some story beats that surprise people. it's not that hard. you are spending $200 million on the game. Pay a hollywood writer a million to write a somewhat decent story.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
StreetsofBeige
Member
Ya. UBI Premium is on PC and Xbox which has day 1 games.
Also, just about any game will have more players than sales too since Steam, Xbox, PS have their own version of home sharing. One sale. But other profile can play it.
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rofif
Banned
it's pretty good
Perrott
Member
These are awful, flop-level numbers.
Assassin's Creed III sold 12 million copies worldwide within the same timeframe, while costing between 1/4 to 1/5 of Shadows' budget.
freemandos
Member
Why can't they just say "sold copies"?
Hideous Snake
Gold Member
Nobody shares sales now but player count. Look, FIVE MILLION! How many of them on Ubi+?
The Mad Draklor
Member
For reference, Tom Henderson expected 6 million players in the first month. So at least according to his expectations, the actual number is pretty bad.
lughnasadh123
Member
"Readers should note that this number does not reflect the number of units sold"
SILKYSMOOTH30FPS
Member
1B km traveled. This is all i cared about. Now give these stats on your next shareholder meeting, see what happens.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
5 million in 4 months sounds awful though. The game had 3 million in 1 week. It took 3.5 months to add another 2 million. If the sales/subscription had been steady, it would have reached 10 million by now.
This sounds like a massive flop, unless Ubisoft had modest projections, especially with the rumored budget.
On the bright side, we might not hear of Ubisoft for much longer if it did bomb.
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diffusionx
Gold Member
That's really not very good.
These AC games used to sell 15 million easy and this game was delayed a lot and probably cost $250M to make.
These AC games used to sell 15 million easy and this game was delayed a lot and probably cost $250M to make.
//DEVIL//
Member
5 million players my ass when the game is on ubisoft + which is like what ? 10$ a month or something ?
when a company doesn't provide how many copies they actually sold, it means they sold way less and trying to spin shit up. The whole point of this tweet is a marketing revival that hey guys our game exist come see how awesome this game is. because up to me seeing this, I forgot the game even existed.
when a company doesn't provide how many copies they actually sold, it means they sold way less and trying to spin shit up. The whole point of this tweet is a marketing revival that hey guys our game exist come see how awesome this game is. because up to me seeing this, I forgot the game even existed.
Thicc Enigma
Member
Animals petted lmfaoo
Topher
Identifies as young
Hmmm, seems you are right considering Tom Henderson was expecting 6 million the first month per the tweet above. Guess I don't have a very good grasp of what player counts should be after 4 months.
Fake
Member
Even Tom Henderson back down some of his guesses. For them to say 'players' the numbers should be bellow that.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Unlikely. Even if we assume 5 million copies sold at $70, we end up with Ubisoft taking home $245M after the 30% cut to retailers. The development budget alone is probably at least $200M and then there's marketing.
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viveks86
Member
Yeah it does look like it's doing about 50% of what the expectation would have been. Wasn't this the most expensive AC they have made?
Kacho
Member
Holy shit, it did. Mega flop confirmed.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
It fucking has to be. We saw not too long ago that PS studio games' budgets doubled compared to the PS4 era, so Shadows has to be the most expensive game in the series by default.
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StreetsofBeige
Member
On an unrelated note, assuming those player counts are accurate in the tweet, Odyssey did that bad? Either it was lousy or there's a data error. Seems odd it'd do 80-85% less than the others.
AmuroChan
Member
The game gets pretty repetitive after 10-15 hours, but I did enjoy my time with it. And the black samurai "controversy" was completely overblown. His character made sense in the context of the story being told.
With that said, these numbers are pretty poor considering AC games in the past used to sell 10+ million copies.
With that said, these numbers are pretty poor considering AC games in the past used to sell 10+ million copies.
Baemono
Member
Cause they want to push Ubisoft+, even if I suppose subscription numbers aren't that high, they want to push for engagement bore actual units
They even did that with Mario+Rabbids despite being a Switch exclusive https://gamingbolt.com/mario-rabbids-kingdom-battle-has-been-played-by-over-7-5-million-players
Kacho
Member
Odyssey didn't launch on Ubi's streaming service day 1 like Valhalla and Shadows. The player numbers are massively inflated for those two games.
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
And you'll never get them. They didn't disclose them for Valhalla. We jus know the game made $1 billion in revenue in about 15 months.
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StreetsofBeige
Member
Ah, no wonder. Based on that limited day 1 tracking, looks like UBI Premium sub players pump up the player count by 2M.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Bert Big Balls
Gold Member
I think it's likely that after this many years and a ridiculous amount of AC games, a lot of people are just worn out and sick of the series. 5 million doesn't seem THAT bad imo. Certainly ain't 12 mil, but it doesn't seem terrible.
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