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Assassin's Creed Syndicate |OT| Once more unto the glitch
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CrichtonKicks
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Man, that's pretty cool.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Sequence 8 is a kinda standalone sequence but I recommend playing the game normally.
bryanee
Member
I know but there is a costume I want and I neeeeeds it.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
I did it after 5 I think, and it was fine.
RedAssedApe
Banned
didnt even realize unique kills even existed in unity. syn made it a little bit too easy but letting you know where entrance points and exact places you needed to go
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
You can complete it at any time. I haven't started it yet so I wouldn't know which costumes you're talking about.
It invented the concept.
Yea that was the point. They felt that it was too vague so they made the options more prevalent. Entrances can be turned off I think.
RedAssedApe
Banned
You can complete it at any time. I haven't started it yet so I wouldn't know which costumes you're talking about.
It invented the concept.
yeah but i think they took it to the opposite extreme. it was literally like
lay here for unique kill
The worst thing about this series right now is the controls. Holy shit are they bad.
I'm enjoying Syndicate a whole lot and it's much better than Unity ever was, but I'm going to think twice about buying another one if it's the same control scheme.
It's absolutely impossible to arrange a "perfect" kill, and more than once will you fail a mission because the control scheme is not fit for purpose.
I'm enjoying Syndicate a whole lot and it's much better than Unity ever was, but I'm going to think twice about buying another one if it's the same control scheme.
It's absolutely impossible to arrange a "perfect" kill, and more than once will you fail a mission because the control scheme is not fit for purpose.
Sequence 8 is all kinds of weird. Spoilers regarding what it contains:
Also, did anyone notice Jacobs accent changed when he was talking to Roth? He went from proper English to more cockney like Roth.
really dull, frustrating missions that don't really make much sense within the framework of the overarching story. Why would Jacob work for this guy? He's clearly not just turning on Starrick on a dime. It was clear to me there was more up his sleeve and I don't see why Jacob wouldn't see that too.
Also, did anyone notice Jacobs accent changed when he was talking to Roth? He went from proper English to more cockney like Roth.
keltickennedy
Member
Because it's Jacob. Evie would of saw it. lol.
Ammogeddon
Member
Yes! I was playing that part earlier and noticed the accent change. He's obviously having an identity crisis.
Enjoying the game nonetheless.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
That's what turning the HUD off is for.
*Light* all day everyday.I thought perhaps the Sequence 8 voice acting/mo cap session was earlier on and Jacob's actor hadn't settled on a voice yet? That might also explain why Sequence 8 feels standalone and a little out of place. A 'deleted scene' maybe.
Fleet_of_Foot
Member
Anyone else feel they're constantly out of money in this game? I have plenty of resources but never enough CASH.
RedAssedApe
Banned
glitch in the animus lol
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Nah, actually I've reached that point like in every AC game where I have too much money. Sitting on 80K with all upgrades purchased. >_> Try doing some cargo hijacks and upgrading the money section in the gang skill tree, you get a shit ton of income in your chest.
Fleet_of_Foot
Member
Every time I go back to my train Jacob says "a letter for me?" And I can't figure out what that means. Where is the letter?
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
You can now start Seq 8 if you want to.
Fleet_of_Foot
Member
I gotta say, the more I play the less I like it. I'm at 55% story completion and I'm pretty bored. The load times suck. The controls are a struggle.
The game feels long. I feel like I've been playing forever and still a ways to go. Too long.
Yeah, the quality definitely decreases as the game goes on. See
Sequence 8 is terrible. Just awful.
Also, the final fight is absolutely atrocious.
I'll write up my final impressions as soon as I have some time tomorrow.
No argument here. I am thoroughly enjoying Unity, granted a year late with plenty of patch support. While there is still plenty to nitpick(lopsided ratio of collectibles/dud missions; combat problems; parkour foibles), there is quite a lot to still like about this game.
It's a solid 7/10 for me. I wouldn't pay full price for it (I got it in a bundle and intend to sell it soon after I finish it), but it's great to jump into every now and then for some harmless fun.
I've had a handful of "Oh for fucks sake" moments, where the game design has killed me or made me fail a mission, but other than that it's the most fun I've had with an AC game since Black Flag. Almost everything that made Unity an absolute chore is improved here, the story has more focus (ignoring Sequence 8), main characters are 50% likeable and the missions aren't too tedious.
Somehow I'm managing to enjoy all the repetitive side activities this time around, which I think is due to the fact that I can get behind the characters. The activities have meaning, however small, so it feels worthwhile.
P.S. Oh and I swear to god they need to ditch the whole "become anonymous to continue" bullshit. It shouldn't matter if some dickhead from ten metres away can see me, I still have plenty of time to pick this lock, open this door, sabotage this bell etc before they could possibly intervene.
Fleet_of_Foot
Member
I was really impressed with this game for the first few hours but there are a lot of minor things with it that piss me off. The sheen has worn off. Here's a list.
Bottom line for me is that while it might be a good Assassin's Creed game, I'm just sick of this formula. I've been playing basically this same game for years now. It is BORING.
- I went to their website and unlocked a bunch of bonus items by doing "activities" like watching trailers and answering survey questions. I then got codes for a bunch of in-game items, which I redeemed. Probably 10 things in total. When I logged into the game, it would alert me like "You've unlocked this gun, push the touch pad to see it" and it would do that 10 times, for each item I had redeemed. The problem is that it does that EVERY TIME I log into the game now. So every time I start the game, I have to wait for it to scroll through all these alert message before I can really do anything. I have to assume that's a bug they're aware of because it's obviously broken.
- When you are using skill points, and want to switch to the other character to spend their skill points, it dumps you all the way back into the game rather than letting you stay in the menus. That's a minor thing but annoying anyway.
- The controls aren't good, especially with the zipline. It's usually hard to target exactly where you want it to go, and frequently it won't even come close to what I'm intending, shooting me up to another building altogether, rather than the one I intended. And despite the fact that they made it easier to get down from the tops of buildings, it still takes too long. Getting around is just a chore overall and it's not novel anymore.
- The carriage driving is lame, and kills the framerate. Controls like shit and isn't fun. Horses and buggies end up flying everywhere with the game's awful physics and hit detection. it's kind of funny but also stupid looking.
- The side activities get old to me. Despite the fact that there are less collectables than in Unity, it still feels like there are too many. The "glitches" in particular stand out as being totally worthless, as far as I can tell.
- The number of unique enemy models is awful. There are maybe four. You fight literally the same guys OVER and OVER, and the guys on your own team look exactly the same as well.
- The load times suck.
- The appeal and look of London is wearing off, halfway through the game. While I do think the game is good graphically, and while they do try to make each section of the city look different, it still all feels very similar. I'm sick of looking at it and being in it at this point.
Bottom line for me is that while it might be a good Assassin's Creed game, I'm just sick of this formula. I've been playing basically this same game for years now. It is BORING.
Jesus_Christ_Almighty
Banned
Good deal here for the PC.
http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/ca/en/pc/games/action/assassins-creed-syndicate/
Even if you're a Canadian. This worked out to $50 CAD for me. It's $80 at Uplay and Steam. Note that Ubisoft Kiev is working on the port - so it's a crap shoot as to whether or not the port will be any good.
For $30 more at Steam, you get the refund if you spend fewer than two hours in game. Not worth the $30 IMO.
http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/ca/en/pc/games/action/assassins-creed-syndicate/
Even if you're a Canadian. This worked out to $50 CAD for me. It's $80 at Uplay and Steam. Note that Ubisoft Kiev is working on the port - so it's a crap shoot as to whether or not the port will be any good.
For $30 more at Steam, you get the refund if you spend fewer than two hours in game. Not worth the $30 IMO.
Is it me or did UBIsoft not keep the human - building size scaling that was used in Unity?
Unity actually seemed to nail how large the doors and buildings were in relation to a human size, in this game several areas the scaling just seemed off with comically oversized doors attached to mundane houses.
This was a large part of what made Unity's Paris seemed great - the world was scaled properly in relation to the size of the characters.
Unity actually seemed to nail how large the doors and buildings were in relation to a human size, in this game several areas the scaling just seemed off with comically oversized doors attached to mundane houses.
This was a large part of what made Unity's Paris seemed great - the world was scaled properly in relation to the size of the characters.
Jesus_Christ_Almighty
Banned
I ordered Fallout 4 on the PC from GMG, and saved $30 CAD on that too.
I mean, fuck me, that's a savings of $60 from just two games. Seriously, this is why Steam NEEDS to have competition.
Steam's day one prices flat out suck. Those people who say everything should be on Steam... those people need to be dealt with... I'm not a member of the Mafia though.
I mean, fuck me, that's a savings of $60 from just two games. Seriously, this is why Steam NEEDS to have competition.
Steam's day one prices flat out suck. Those people who say everything should be on Steam... those people need to be dealt with... I'm not a member of the Mafia though.
Yabberwocky
Member
What in the hell, the DLC steampunk clothes are 3GB in total? Evie's is 1GB? That seems rather excessive.
Yeah I have no idea why but I assure you they are fantastic. It also includes a gun, knuckle and assassin glove. All awesome.
Beat it a few nights ago, really enjoyed the ending actually.
Them getting knighted by the Queen was a nice touch, even though they kill hundreds of people lol. Also the present day stuff actually had me interested. Definitely buying next years to see where it goes. I can see this being the game where they are easing more present day stuff into it, so I hope next years has even more.
I can't remember the last time I bought a game day 1 directly off steam. It's simply not what it used to be on that front.
Yabberwocky
Member
Cheers, it's great to know they're worth the download! I'd been looking at the time remaining on my download list with horror.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
I feel that they nailed the archtecture. I wonder how the actual architecture was on mundane buildings in London.
bargeparty
Member
HUD options are lacking. Why can't it just prompt the mission details when you start our something like that? It's either always display or never.
Same thing for something like the tool indicator. It should be contextual and automatically display in combat.
Same thing for something like the tool indicator. It should be contextual and automatically display in combat.
I'm actually kind of amazed for the first time EVER in an Ubisoft game at their civilian AI. There's actually some interesting stuff going on even if it is just more of animations than patterns.
about 25 hours in and I saw a dude catching rats for the first time
about 25 hours in and I saw a dude catching rats for the first time
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
I believe that option is called the memory(mission) log. Switch to light and switch the first option on iirc.
bargeparty
Member
Not really my point. There should be an option to have it display and then go away. Even if it's hidden and you start a mission the objectives should pop up briefly. Otherwise you don't know what to do.
It's funny, this was how I felt playing Unity, somehow with Syndicate it's nowhere near as tedious. I think it comes down to expectations. I went into this expecting a mediocre game, came out with often-fun timesink.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Ohhhh. Doesn't pressing start show what the objective is?
Vincent Grayson
Member
Oh man, the more I play of this, the more I feel pretty firmly that it's my favorite Assassin's Creed title.
I'm on sequence 6, I think, and just did the first mission in
I'm on sequence 6, I think, and just did the first mission in
WW1. Holy shit, this game just keeps on giving.
bargeparty
Member
Options(ps4)? Didn't notice before. I guess that might satisfy, but breaks the flow imo.
The UI could be much better that's my point. I don't understand why it's sucked for so many games.
CrichtonKicks
Member
Did they change it from Unity? In Unity it's great- the color and type of icon tells you what you need to do. So you can play totally hudless and still know what the objectives are.
For the first time in the series Unity really nailed being able play Hud-less (icon consistency, use of high ground to find nearby objectives, audio cues in the world for different collectible types, one button interface toggle when you really need it, etc) and I'm going to be really disappointed if Syndicate really took a step back.
I had a fun week with this game. Best Buy esentially paid me to play it. I didn't pay anything for the game due to collected rewards points on a tv I bought in late July, gave me $10 for the preorder and $43.70 after the platinum trophy. All in all, just as good as black flag, (better town, sans boss pirate shit)
Overall the game would have been more enjoyable if they squashed Jacob in the beginning and made Evie the main protag, but Whatevs.
Zipline had issues, it makes sense to only allow it at the base of the buildings and on top but I wanted to use it in the middle of courtyards, which was frustrating at times.
The train was a nice home base, needed a money pit ala Scrooge McDuck. Heists would of been cool, lots of valuable shit lurking around in Victorian London.
The boroughs needed a Shadow of Mordor type system if you let them sit too long they get taken, I dunno it's late...
Definitely play it if you like historical fiction.
Overall the game would have been more enjoyable if they squashed Jacob in the beginning and made Evie the main protag, but Whatevs.
Zipline had issues, it makes sense to only allow it at the base of the buildings and on top but I wanted to use it in the middle of courtyards, which was frustrating at times.
The train was a nice home base, needed a money pit ala Scrooge McDuck. Heists would of been cool, lots of valuable shit lurking around in Victorian London.
The boroughs needed a Shadow of Mordor type system if you let them sit too long they get taken, I dunno it's late...
Definitely play it if you like historical fiction.
Vincent4756
Member
So about the ending.
that was Minerva right? Not Juno? She looked different then last time I remember.
I'm pretty happy they didn't do another "Sage" thing. And it looks like Rebecca won't join us for next year's. Also that was real dumb of Hastings to say "kill them all" and then let the one new chick do most of the work.
Man i read this thread trying to decide whether or not Syndicate deserves a purchase, and it feels like i am riding some sadistic seesaw!
One poster's experience gets me very excited, then the next throws me back to reality and the cycle repeats itself. :S
At this point i feel like i should just flip a coin lol!
One poster's experience gets me very excited, then the next throws me back to reality and the cycle repeats itself. :S
At this point i feel like i should just flip a coin lol!