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Assassin's Creed Unity |OT| Liberté, égalité, parité
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matrix-cat
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Don't know about anyone else, but I got that Trophy by accident just while I was playing through all the co-op missions. Always playing with randoms, never actually trying to do it. I don't think it requires any timing or coordination, you just kind of fight a bunch of guys while your co-op partners are nearby and eventually you'll stab the same guy a few times.
PrivateRyan
Member
About two-thirds through at the moment. Liking it far more than AC3, not nearly as much as Black Flag. Thoughts:
LOVED:
1) Setting is fantastic - both in terms of aesthetic and interest
2) Arno is a great character and having the option to set the dialogue to French is a nice touch
3) Parkour up/down makes running around more enjoyable
4) Secondary objectives aren't as annoying and generally more enjoyable
5) Co-op is surprisingly good fun
6) Viewpoints not showing all chests + cockades (I think?). Running into a few hidden ones
7) The dynamic street objectives are fairly enjoyable, if a little samey
8) The open-ended nature of the actual assassinations
HATED:
1) The glitches, obviously. Not been too frequent but it definitely feels too rough around the edges.
2) It's still too easy - I focused on upgrading the cafe first, which meant I could get the best weapons and gear early on thanks to the stupid amount of money I earned from the cafe, which made the game far too easy…
3) …as do Berserk Darts. Again. I appreciate that they're now limited in number compared to AC3 but having the Phantom Blade alongside them… I don't know. I think points 2) and 3) make it too easy to circumvent the game design in Unity. Felt like I was cheating too often.
4) Every time the story veers away from the French revolution and into the Abstergo/modern stuff, I cringe. It's beyond dreadful.
5) The map is far, far, far too cluttered without nearly enough options to untangle the mess of icons on it
6) The chests that can only be unlocked with apps or whatever. Awful.
7) The fact that it doesn't flag up how difficult chests will be to unlock until you get there, which is annoying until you get Advanced Lockpicking.
I think the main thing it's missing for me is that Black Flag's sailing was the perfect distraction away from the main game - unlocking songs, upgrading the ship, attacking forts or just sailing around the choppy sea. There's nothing in Unity that's really serving as the equivalent of that - co-op is too bitty to feel naturally integrated into the main game - and that's why it's not hitting the same notes for me.
Still enjoying Unity a lot.
LOVED:
1) Setting is fantastic - both in terms of aesthetic and interest
2) Arno is a great character and having the option to set the dialogue to French is a nice touch
3) Parkour up/down makes running around more enjoyable
4) Secondary objectives aren't as annoying and generally more enjoyable
5) Co-op is surprisingly good fun
6) Viewpoints not showing all chests + cockades (I think?). Running into a few hidden ones
7) The dynamic street objectives are fairly enjoyable, if a little samey
8) The open-ended nature of the actual assassinations
HATED:
1) The glitches, obviously. Not been too frequent but it definitely feels too rough around the edges.
2) It's still too easy - I focused on upgrading the cafe first, which meant I could get the best weapons and gear early on thanks to the stupid amount of money I earned from the cafe, which made the game far too easy…
3) …as do Berserk Darts. Again. I appreciate that they're now limited in number compared to AC3 but having the Phantom Blade alongside them… I don't know. I think points 2) and 3) make it too easy to circumvent the game design in Unity. Felt like I was cheating too often.
4) Every time the story veers away from the French revolution and into the Abstergo/modern stuff, I cringe. It's beyond dreadful.
5) The map is far, far, far too cluttered without nearly enough options to untangle the mess of icons on it
6) The chests that can only be unlocked with apps or whatever. Awful.
7) The fact that it doesn't flag up how difficult chests will be to unlock until you get there, which is annoying until you get Advanced Lockpicking.
I think the main thing it's missing for me is that Black Flag's sailing was the perfect distraction away from the main game - unlocking songs, upgrading the ship, attacking forts or just sailing around the choppy sea. There's nothing in Unity that's really serving as the equivalent of that - co-op is too bitty to feel naturally integrated into the main game - and that's why it's not hitting the same notes for me.
Still enjoying Unity a lot.
Savantcore
Unconfirmed Member
Ah ok, I'll give it a look when I've done mopping everything else up.
staticneuron
Member
Just fyi, the viewpoints don't even show all chests and cockades on the map
Oh dear god...
I really must fix this slight OCD of mine. I will do my best to try to avoid collecting everything.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
Viewpoint syncing doesn't reveal all collectables. Most will get revealed anyways by just playing the game, but I'm left with about 5 cockades missing and a couple chests and no way to find then other than running around the specific district with eagle vision on which isn't efficient. The only real solution is to just buy the completed map with micro transactions (there are achievements tied to the collectables too).
Oh dear god...
I really must fix this slight OCD of mine. I will do my best to try to avoid collecting everything.
Hmm, being a completionist isn't the best of things at times, at least it's easy and only takes time.
I haven't spent a single for Helix points and I think I had over 1000 of them at one point. I think you get a few hundred just by connecting your account to Uplay. Not sure who really needs the microtransactions anyway.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Then you clearly don't have slow reflexes like people like me do. It's not ADD, but its slightly related to it. I can assure you those level 3 lockpicks were a struggle for me.
Being condescending doesn't help anyone. I'm glad that you don't have to deal with this issue and it's why I am fucking tired of mini-games that require decent reflexes.
Or watch a collectibles walkthrough, there are videos for each district. So for a missing cockade in a specific district you only have to watch a video during 2 or 3 minutes.
I'm sorry if I came of as condescending, wasn't my intention, was just commenting on the difficulty of the lockpicking. And my reflexes aren't exactly super either, but I don't have any ailments that make it difficult for me.
I mean, I should be able to comment on the difficulty of a game or mini-game without being afraid of stepping on peoples toes right?
No comment on the microtransactions, but collectathons aren't something new to AC games, feathers in AC2, and animus shards in AC:R (also hidden on map, but iirc, after collecting a specific amount, all others were revealed). Though I don't recall if all collectathons were trophy related or not, Feathers were though if I'm not completely mistaken.
But I agree with you that Paris stories and Murder Mysteries would've made better trophies than cockades and chests.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I guess I can believe that. They entice people to buy the chest map by not revealing all of them when you reach sync points. They also require you to get all of them by tying a trophy to them. The previous games didn't have a trophy tied to collecting chests and therefore they were skippable (to me). The cockades added absolutely NOTHING to the game other than the sole purpose of providing busy work, but they at least didn't take long to get.
So yeah, I guess I can believe the microtransaction model played a role. I would have much rather them tied trophies to finishing up Paris Stories and Murder Mysteries. I have the platinum trophy and have little incentive to after them.
Collecting those chests and cockades added one whole day of meaningless play time. However, I fully accept that is on me. I didn't HAVE to get the platinum trophy, but I wanted it and my OCD got the best of me once again.
Not really for nothing. You unlock a new color scheme for your outfit every 20 cockades. ^^
ThaddeusMcGee
Member
It would have been cool if they had a level IV lockpicking perk that was the most expensive, but you just opened every chest without the tedium of the minigame. Like maybe you just see his animation of fiddling with the lock and it opens. To me, that minigame feels like something you should be able to upgrade out of. Or after a story mission/in the upgrades menu give Arno a special 'Assassin's Pick' that never breaks. Seems like a reasonable thing for a sneaky murdering group to give out to their people.
On a related subject, how bout a perk where if you hold R or something you can do a super fast like side-run through crowds without getting stopped/slowed down a bunch. Sometimes, like when you're going after all the collectibles, you just want to jam from place to place
since it's faster than 'fast traveling'
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
In otherwords, for nothing....
But the cockades didn't really bother me too much since they didn't require taking out guards and rarely required you going into buildings.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Yeah, a level 4 lockpicking as you describe would have been great and could have easily replaced something like disguise (or stun grenades since they effectively do the same thing as smoke bombs) which was pretty useless.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I can't think of a series that makes collecting items less fun and more pointless than the Assassins Creed series. Very rarely is the payoff worth the effort.
AC2: Collecting 100 feathers got you a cape that made you notorious.
AC:B: The flags at least got you a cape that made you immune to the law, but you couldn't get it until so late in the game that it barely mattered.
AC:R: can't remember
AC3: never has a game had more pointless sidequests/collectibles than this game. Most sidequests didn't even give you in game currency!
ACIV: Collectibles were better and there was some benefit to doing them in that you got armor. This game seemed to be on the right track.
AC:Unity: Cockades and Nostradamus gave you aesthetics and nothing more. No super weapons. Chests gave you currency, but by the time you could unlock Level 3 chests (sequence 9) you most likely had acquired more than enough currency to get all the weapons/armor you wanted.
AC really needs to take cues from the Farcry series in that sidequests provide you with additional XP and/or currency and is needed to unlock weapons. I love doing side quests for those reasons. While in AC I do it for trophies and achievements.
Goodacre0081
Member
ya that trophy should just come naturally as you play through the co-op missions. I was only half way through them when it dinged for me.
Alcoholikaust
Member
patch on its way this week how much will the patch improve performance I wonder?
thank god, the low framerate on PS4 give me a headache
Alcoholikaust
Member
this came in from Gamefly yesterday-good timing for this
My theory still is that many frame rate drops are caused by bugs. So there is a good chance the drops will be reduced, but a general FPS increase willl probably come with a later patch.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Yeah, it should come pretty naturally.
One and done. Enjoyed the game, it is my 2nd or 3rd favorite AC game so far. Had around 95% of total synch. Too bad for poor optimalization.
Also, I'm posting 3 glitch videos that happend to me if anyone is interested. Thank god for Share button.
Assassin's Creed Unity - Obnoxious NPCs Interrupt Cutscene 2nd edition
Arno meeting Elise, ghost edition
Assassins Creed Unity glitches galore
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
When I was busy doing stuff I would just stand and let the income role in while I watched TV.
I just made sure I pressed circle every so often!
Sweet. Sounds good. Do we have a timeframe for tomorrow?
You can play co-op mission solo. You can unlock all of those weapons, and it's like you're playing a single player mission.
tringworldso
Member
I'm baffled by the exclusion of certain things which were present in AC3,4:
1) Can't pick up dead bodies
2) Whistling to attract guards to hiding places
3) Using another guard as a shield against a gunshot, just rickroll all over
4) No secondary weapon mini-weapon
5) Stuck with fighting only with the main weapon, can't select blades
6) Can't pickup dropped enemy weapons
7) Lockpicking replaced with dumb test your reflexes game
8) Disarm and fist fighting is gone
These are just off the top of my head :-/
1) Can't pick up dead bodies
2) Whistling to attract guards to hiding places
3) Using another guard as a shield against a gunshot, just rickroll all over
4) No secondary weapon mini-weapon
5) Stuck with fighting only with the main weapon, can't select blades
6) Can't pickup dropped enemy weapons
7) Lockpicking replaced with dumb test your reflexes game
8) Disarm and fist fighting is gone
These are just off the top of my head :-/
That was replaced with the firecracker thing.
Muffdraul
Member
Which almost never works for me. In Revelations you could throw a cherry bomb 100 yards away from a guard and it would lure him over. In Unity it's like if it's more than 20 feet the guard is too deaf to notice. Are you supposed to just drop them at your own feet or something?
ThaddeusMcGee
Member
Yeah I would be really interested to hear the reasons behind some of these. The easy answer is "140 million people from 98 studios worked on it" but there has to be more to the story. At some point, I feel like someone in charge had to be like "Uh yeah, take out the disarm thing. Oh and picking up weapons too."
I mean it's not like they started over from scratch with all the systems, is it? And enough veterans have to still be around for someone to have been like "Hey the disarming system wasn't ported over to this one. We should get on that." Maybe there wasn't time to port everything? It's not like there's different buttons/controllers to deal with either, like if they were missing the buttons they needed to still have that stuff. Seems like certain things were simply forgotten, or taken out, but then in some cases replaced with weird stuff like the firecrackers for some reason. Were the French well known for throwing firecrackers around during that period? Were they as common a sound on the streets of Paris as a whistle?
Overall I've enjoyed my time with the game, but it's left me with many questions. A gamasutra-style post mortem would be an interesting read.
whatever77
Banned
I tried to do most of the theater missions ASAP when I could (only the last 3-5 was hard). I upgraded all my equiptments to the 125k versions right around the time I finish all the optional assassins missions. So I would say the economy scale is about right.
I think in pretty much every Assassins and theater missions, its easier to just spam smoke bombs and kill every moving red body than doing it in stealth.
SuperSonic1305
Member
Wow, this is fucked up.
There was a picture recently that compared Unity to one of the older Assassin's Creed games and that demonstrated the enormous difference in the amount of activities you had to do in the new game. Anyone got a link to that? Couldn't find it by googling. It was of the map screen.
Initiates is now 100% working for me, my full profile migrated over and has all the correct completion rates for my other games, and I got a couple extra levels thanks to the XP from those being calculated correctly.
I don't actually miss a lot of that stuff apart from moving bodies.
2 is replaced by cherry bombs, which are now limited by your belt, which I think is a good design decision that players have to spec into if they want those advantages, rather than making it unlimited.
3 felt extremely sluggish in AC3 and I'm glad there's just a dodge button.
4 I do miss, changing up the fighting style was fun.
5 makes sense. They want you to have a weapon. Fighting with the blades looked super cool but also meant you never had to interact with the game's economy.
6 and 8 being gone is mainly the result of streamlining the customisation options (and of course tying them to optional microtransactions).
7 I have no problem with.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
That's exactly what they did actually. They revamped pretty much everything instead of just reusing old assets. A good amount of the things on the list were criticized for making the game too easy.
ThaddeusMcGee
Member
OK. Even though I enjoyed using it, I can definitely concede that whistling made things ridiculously easy. I guess my follow-up question then would be, why not leave that other stuff in the game as upgrades, but create some enemies that repel your ability to use all of them at once, in order to promote variety during fights. Worked for Batman. Like, maybe you wouldn't be able to bullet shield "Heavy" guys, can't disarm a guy until he's "stunned" with smoke, etc. It's kind of a bummer that the fix is "Eh, take it all out."
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Well ever since AC3 they've been leaning toward a more batman-esque system that still feels like AC. They should really capitalize on the good points of Unity with AC 2015. As in fast and fluid combat that feels looks realistic. Wouldn't even mind an even smaller parry window. http://gfycat.com/UnpleasantJoyfulAnkolewatusi But not too difficult because sometimes I do wanna feel like a trained assassin who gets shit done. http://gfycat.com/ReasonablePowerfulHoatzin I assume they didn't wanna add more "bloat" to the combat while revamping it, back when AC3 came out they had to make tutorial videos because a good amount of the fanbase never realized how many options there were.
Waylon Drums
Member
I don't really get why I STILL run up and get stuck on things when I'm pressing run. Just run with no other button. Wasn't that supposed to be solved with the "up/down" mechanic?
matrixman92
Member
completely done with the game, but I go back for a couple minutes just about every day to pick up an app chest or do a companion mission...so I will look forward to the patch for those couple minutes lol
I enjoyed the game for what it was. Can't say too much about it, except....
this games cured me of my OCD of doing everything in a game.
Screw that. I'm not going to collect and do everything that is offered to me on the map.
Most of the stuff I locked for me anyway for not playing the Android/ios game.
Thanks Ubisoft for curing me.
this games cured me of my OCD of doing everything in a game.
Screw that. I'm not going to collect and do everything that is offered to me on the map.
Most of the stuff I locked for me anyway for not playing the Android/ios game.
Thanks Ubisoft for curing me.
matrixman92
Member
I could have been there, but my app reset lol. I bought premium to speed up my progress for the third go around on this app. It reset when I linked my game for the first time, then reset when the update came out. Whenever u get done, let us know if thats really what counts for the last 1% in the progress tracker, dont think anyone really knows yet
IdreamofHIME
Member
You make that 1st gif with some kind of machinima? Guards don't line up like that, where is the one taking shots at you off cam?
I'm not kidding, i really don't believe for a moment that is real.
Flying0Dutchman
Member
not as far into the game as I wanted to be cause of work
I'm at
but does the story ever actually use the French Revolution to the full effect? So far they've haven't really taken advantage of the awesome backdrop they've got, Arno's story just exists without any context to the history around.
I'm at
just finished sequence where you team up with Elise for the first time
but does the story ever actually use the French Revolution to the full effect? So far they've haven't really taken advantage of the awesome backdrop they've got, Arno's story just exists without any context to the history around.
One and done. Enjoyed the game, it is my 2nd or 3rd favorite AC game so far. Had around 95% of total synch. Too bad for poor optimalization.
Also, I'm posting 3 glitch videos that happend to me if anyone is interested. Thank god for Share button.
Assassin's Creed Unity - Obnoxious NPCs Interrupt Cutscene 2nd edition
Arno meeting Elise, ghost edition
Assassins Creed Unity glitches galore
Welcome to the Brotherhood. (I'm stuck at 99% total sync, thanx to that broken ass companion app.)
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
Good list. It really is kind of baffling what they decided to remove.
Really, the gameplay in this just isn't very good at all. It's really just an amazing technical showcase. That and the setting are enough to carry me to the end, but overall it leaves a bitter taste.
One and done. Enjoyed the game, it is my 2nd or 3rd favorite AC game so far. Had around 95% of total synch. Too bad for poor optimalization.
Also, I'm posting 3 glitch videos that happend to me if anyone is interested. Thank god for Share button.
Assassin's Creed Unity - Obnoxious NPCs Interrupt Cutscene 2nd edition
Arno meeting Elise, ghost edition
Assassins Creed Unity glitches galore
That's not the official 2nd edition!