ATI Radeon 9800 Pro core

I am trying to identify the core of my ATI radeon 9800 pro but it doesn't list it on the box or anything. Can somebody help me out?

I want to know if its R350 or R360 so I can mod my card to Radeon 9800XT. Thanks

oh btw all ATI card owners should get the Rage3d tweak. It rocks!
 
The only way to know for sure is to pop off the heatsink/fan on the GPU and read what it says on the chip.
 
I would just conentrate on seeing how well you can overclock your card. I know flashing to a 9800XT enables some extra pixal power but the numbers I've seen don't make it a huge jump. LIke 2-3 percent. And sometimes when you flash you can't overclock as high after. Do you know what your limits are? I've thought about flashing mine (I have the R350 core) but I get 430/385 stable clocks with my games, and I don't want to mess with things.
 
Mrbob said:
I would just conentrate on seeing how well you can overclock your card. I know flashing to a 9800XT enables some extra pixal power but the numbers I've seen don't make it a huge jump. LIke 2-3 percent. And sometimes when you flash you can't overclock as high after. Do you know what your limits are? I've thought about flashing mine (I have the R350 core) but I get 430/385 stable clocks with my games, and I don't want to mess with things.


Hey mr bob, I am n00b at this. I am just reading a few threads on overclocking and this guide is great:

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=106152&page=3&pp=20

http://www.rojakpot.com/default.aspx?location=3&var1=92&var2=0 < full guide, tells you if you can mod your card or not.

Rage3d tweak is also great:

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Yesterday I overclocked my card (both core clock and memory clock by about 10 MHz to 20 MHz) and the card is still working. The devs recommend not going overboard with this so be careful.

Here's guide for Rage3d stuff
http://atiguide.ionichost.com/the_guide/the_guide.htm


You can't flash a card with a R350 core. See this link

http://www.rojakpot.com/default.aspx?location=3&var1=92&var2=0
 
:lol

It's been awhile since I've looked into the whole R350/R360. Now with your post I remembe why I couldn't flash to a 9800XT. :lol

Do you have a 9800PRO you are looking to flash to a 9800XT? Or are you possibly looking to potentially buy a 9800pro? You can't go wrong with the ICEQ cards. Nice heatsink/fan on them. I couldn't push my videocard nearly as hard until I put one of those VGA silencers on my card.
 
Mrbob said:
:lol

It's been awhile since I've looked into the whole R350/R360. Now with your post I remembe why I couldn't flash to a 9800XT. :lol

Do you have a 9800PRO you are looking to flash to a 9800XT? Or are you possibly looking to potentially buy a 9800pro? You can't go wrong with the ICEQ cards. Nice heatsink/fan on them. I couldn't push my videocard nearly as hard until I put one of those VGA silencers on my card.


I have a Radeon 9800 Pro and I want to flash it to a 9800XT. The core is most important, I gues I will open the computer when parents leave the house.
 
Not sure. To be honest, I'm amazed there's no way to tell via the OS. If you've had the card before '04, you can bet that it's not.
 
There is a program called ATI Tool which reports the core.

Unfortunately, it doesn't always report it accurately.

If you've had the card before '04, you can bet that it's not.

Not necessarily. There were 9800 PROs out last year that were using the R360 core.
 
Mrbob said:
There is a program called ATI Tool which reports the core.

Unfortunately, it doesn't always report it accurately.



Not necessarily. There were 9800 PROs out last year that were using the R360 core.


woah this tool rocks!
 
Doom_Bringer said:
It has a R350 Core :lol



Don't despair. So what if you do or you don't. The ATI tool has a built in utility for overclocking. It basically overclocks little by little scanning for artifacts and other irregularities; it determines the maximum stable stafe overclock. Just turn it on and leave it on for a day (period of 24 hours).

It really is the best tool for overclocking, just because you don't see any irregularities, doesn't mean they are not there.
 
marsomega said:
Don't despair. So what if you do or you don't. The ATI tool has a built in utility for overclocking. It basically overclocks little by little scanning for artifacts and other irregularities, it determines the maximum stable stafe overclock. Just turn it on and leave it on for a day (period of 24 hours).


Yup. Plus the R350 cores, on a whole, overclock better than the R360 cores.

I would recommend adjusting the frequencies little by little (Like 2, 3 mhz) yourself to try and find the max. Some people who have used the ATI tool auto program have had their GPUS burn out on them. Use a graphically intensive game like Farcry, start at the standard setting, and ever so slightly adjust it to see how far you can go. If you see any artifacts at all make sure to step it down. Make sure to do tiny adjustments so you don't burn out your card.
 
Mrbob said:
Yup. Plus the R350 cores, on a whole, overclock better than the R360 cores.

I would recommend adjusting the frequencies little by little (Like 2, 3 mhz) yourself to try and find the max. Some people who have used the ATI tool auto program have had their GPUS burn out on them. Use a graphically intensive game like Farcry, start at the standard setting, and ever so slightly adjust it to see how far you can go. If you see any artifacts at all make sure to step it down. Make sure to do tiny adjustments so you don't burn out your card.


Really? I never read any accounts of the ati tool burning out GPU's.

However, may I suggest a better method? Least one that I think will be the best you can do.

Keep in mind I'm assuming your 9800 PRO has a thermal sensor so you can monitor the temperature. Least I hope, not sure about the 9800 PRO's. Either way, give it a shot.

Instead of farcry, head on over to the link below and download rthdribl 1.2.

http://www.daionet.gr.jp/~masa/rthdribl/index.html

This tech demo is great because it works in window mode plus it will bring your video card to its knees. Max out all settings. Since you are in window mode, you can monitor the visuals for artifacts while you get temperature readings in real time. Increase the overclock little by little as before and run the program again. I think the temperatures are a better indicator then trusting your vision alone to find artifacts. Remeber, not all types are artifacts can be seen by the naked eye. No matter which method you choose, overclocking your card involves risks and obviously voids your warranty. Do it at your own risk.

Another method you could try to increase performance is to trick the driver into thinking you have a 9800 XT instead of the 9800 PRO. I know for a fact that when the 9800 PRO path is used for a 9700 PRO you get a 7 to 12% increase in performance alone.

EDIT: The reason you want to monitor your temperature at the same time you are running the tech demo is because the temp delta is pretty large between the program running and the time you exit and look up your temp. We are talking a good 18 to 30 temp delta. The only accurate way to see your load temps is during the loads. Ergo, running rthdribl on max settings in window mode and monitoring your temps simultaneously. Don't worry about rthdribl not putting a sufficient load on your GPU in window mode. Trust me, it will especially at max settings.

Good Luck :-)
 
No software can identify the gpu accurately, they just look up id information in the bios. However, ATI Tool worked for me because the Sapphire 9800PRO 128MB card I had had a BIOS name that started with R360_blah blah.. To make things sweeter, by card also had a R360 PCB so I flashed it with the 128MB XT bios and I had a fully functional XT with overdrive.

My advice to you, is, to check with ATI Tool and see what your BIOS says. The only way to make sure is to a) check the gpu, b) flash and see what happens.
 
Make sure you have the right bios to flash with before you flash your card. It's critical that you use the bios for the kind of RAM you have on your board (Hynix/Samsung). Wrong BIOS = blank screen. Then you have to go through a lot of trouble to restore your old BIOS.
 
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