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[Gully State]

Whats the point of those magic sticks/wands? What are "charges" that they need to be used?

http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Magic_Stick
You typically buy a magic stick/wand if you're laning against ability spamming heroes.
Charges are used to instantly regain a portion of mana/health.

Is there a GAF tournament for noobs like me?

Nope

What does the matchmaking look for? How is skill calculated when MMing?
Edit: I assume it is through your level.

Nope, Valve has their on secret algorithm for calculating your MMR and it's not your level (all that does right now is give you an item drop every time you gain a level- you can accumulate points from playing normal mm against humans and co-op'ing against bots)

 

[SteveWinwood]

All Star Teams Announced.

Team A:
Loda
Chuan
Dendi
Hao
ARS-ART

vs

Team B
Burning
Akke
Mushi
Ferrari
Puppey

Solo Mid Championships
Dendi (Natus Vincere)
Ferrari (Invictus Gaming)
S4 (Alliance)
FATA (mousesports)
Mushi (Orange eSports)
Mu (TongFu)
xiao8 (LGD Gaming)
iceiceice (Zenith)

This is going to be so awesome.

Although I wonder about a potential language barrier for the all star game.

 

[SamVimes]

Fucking FATA for the solo tournament. Bros, the chance of Juggernaut matchups are quite thin.

 

[JustinBB7]

Whats the point of those magic sticks/wands? What are "charges" that they need to be used?

Why are there neutral enemies? Isnt it easier to gain gold just through killimg creeps?

Is there a GAF tournament for noobs like me?

What does the matchmaking look for? How is skill calculated when MMing?

Edit: I assume it is through your level.

1.Every time an enemy uses a spell on/near you you get a charge. 1 charge gives back a small amount of health/mana. Max charges is 15 so then you get back a good chunk of health/mana.

2.Because if they are no normal creeps on your side of the river it's too dangerous to cross it alone. So you can farm neutrals, some heroes are even really good at doing so and can do that better than being in a lane.

3.Not right now.

4.Valve doesn't really say, it's invisible skill levels.

 

[Randdalf]

Whats the point of those magic sticks/wands? What are "charges" that they need to be used?

Whenever an enemy casts a spell near you you get a charge. The more charges you have, the more health and mana is restored when you use the stick/wand. Magic wand is an upgraded version of magic stick which gives you a few bonus stat points as well as the active ability.

Why are there neutral enemies? Isnt it easier to gain gold just through killimg creeps?

Neutral enemies are at a basic level just more gold and xp (and some give less + more than lane creeps), but they serve deeper purposes too.

Neutrals can be:
1. Jungled. Instead of laning, certain heroes have the combination of abilities that let them farm neutral creeps instead of lane creeps, which means that your team gets more experience in lanes as there is one less hero sucking it up.
2. Pulled to the lane, in order to bring back the "front" of battle in that lane closer towards your tower and deny the enemy team xp. Heroes aggro the neutrals into the lane, which are then attacked by the lane creeps and pulled back into their camp where they are killed. Heroes can also use this as another way to take advantage of the additional gold+xp available in the jungle to give the more bountiful lane gold+xp to important heroes on their team.
3. Stacked. Creeps will spawn in the camp if it is empty every minute, so if you aggro the creeps out of that camp at specific times it will be stacked with more creeps. This is another source of extra gold+xp.
4. Farmed when no enemy creeps are on safe places in the map (for you).
5. Converted, so heroes can control the creeps as friendly units. Some neutrals have useful abilities which heroes like Chen and Enchantress take advantage of (as they have skills to convert creeps). The hero known as Doom can also steal the abilities of neutrals.

There are particularly powerful neutral creeps called ancients which are worth quite a bit more gold+xp than lane creeps. Typically these will be stacked so a hero can farm them for a lot of gold.

What does the matchmaking look for? How is skill calculated when MMing?

Nobody knows. Presumably it's similar to an ELO style system, which updates your skill based on the results of matches and the skill of the players you played against.

 

[TimeEffect]

^Thanks guys.

Are spells anything that use Mana?

 

[FlutterPuffs]

Wait is this new? Apparently there's a new format in terms of drafting order / Taking a side

In each series, a coin toss decides with team has Selection Priority. The team with Selection Priority gets to either pick their side of the map or the drafting order. At the start of the next game, the team that lost the coin toss will have Selection Priority.

http://www.dota2.com/international/home/format/

 

[traveler]

Re:Solo player championship- this is interesting

"Each player picks their two favorite heroes (their first and second choice). Shadow Fiend not allowed as one of these, he is always used if a third game is needed."

Wonder why SF specifically. Guess he is one of the more iconic mids. SF v SF would be the ultimate last hit matchup. Hope we get a puck v puck and a invoker v invoker at some point.

 

[Drkirby]

Nothing new, just spelling out a common practice that a coin toss determines which side you start on.

 

[SamVimes]

Re:Solo player championship- this is interesting

"Each player picks their two favorite heroes (their first and second choice). Shadow Fiend not allowed as one of these, he is always used if a third game is needed."

Wonder why SF specifically. Guess he is one of the more iconic mids. SF v SF would be the ultimate last hit matchup. Hope we get a puck v puck and a invoker v invoker at some point.

I just want to see Iceiceice play Invoker and i'll be happy.

edit: bottlecrow allowed, so much for the chance of a slightly fun solo tournament.

 

[TriniTrin]

Is there a GAF tournament for noobs like me?

I dont think so buuuut we should have a GAF noobs tourney!

 

[SteveWinwood]

^Thanks guys.

Are spells anything that use Mana?

Not to be rude, but this thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=618111 is probably a better place for all of your questions re: dota in general and not The International 2013.

But to answer that question, not all spells use mana, so no. I guess by most definitions of a spell would be any skill that any hero has with an active. You should be more concerned about what kind of damage type most of them fall into.

 

[SamVimes]

Every GAF tournament is a noobs tournament. Kappa


But seriously, i don't think we've had a single GAF tournament yet. There was an inhouse league but it fell apart because most people couldn't deal with losing.

 

[FlutterPuffs]

Every GAF tournament is a noobs tournament. Kappa


But seriously, i don't think we've had a single GAF tournament yet. There was an inhouse league but it fell apart because most people couldn't deal with losing.

The only way this can work if we play in a LAN setting where any death will result in the loser having to drink a cup of beer.

Fuck, Beer Pong Dota could be a thing.

 

[shira]

24 hours people. In muh veins

 

[HK-47]

what? tobi isn't funny in the slightest. lumi can be funny though and doesn't talk crap like tobi

Lumi talks a lot more uninformed crap than tobi or any of the other bts casters

 

[Gully State]

Every GAF tournament is a noobs tournament. Kappa


But seriously, i don't think we've had a single GAF tournament yet. There was an inhouse league but it fell apart because most people couldn't deal with losing.

IH games were basically what convinced me that Valve was doing a good job with matchmaking. The skill variance in an IH is huge as some people can outlane you to the point where you can just tell that their reaction speed is just significantly faster than yours.

 

[HK-47]

I'm excited but after becoming a commentary snob over the last year having to put up with Tobi and Lumi is a bit of a downer.

So I'm assuming you don't like ayesee either? They aren't there to be informative

 

[HK-47]

This retarded meme needs to DIAF, so the people who genuinely don't know American/Canadian players can be exposed.

Right I'm sure this isn't a totally nonexistent issue

 

[User 85168]

Booo bottle crow is allowed in the solo tourney

 

[Gully State]

I don't get why Ayesee and Tobi need to be that informative since for the most part they are play by play guys. Ideally both are at their best when they bring in a co caster to do color commentary/analysis.

 

[traveler]

Bottle crow is the solo tourney does kind negate some of the advantages of one player outperforming the other, but I do think it opens the potential hero pool up and, since it's a 1v1 mirror match, we could really see any kind of hero played, not just the typical mids.

 

[SamVimes]

Bottle crow is the solo tourney does kind negate some of the advantages of one player outperforming the other, but I do think it opens the potential hero pool up and, since it's a 1v1 mirror match, we could really see any kind of hero played, not just the typical mids.

No, you're gonna see even less variance because you can only run heroes with a spammable aoe nuke.

 

[shira]

No, you're gonna see even less variance because you can only run heroes with a spammable aoe nuke.

No tree and I'm happy

 

[Spirit of Jazz]

So I'm assuming you don't like ayesee either? They aren't there to be informative

I like Ayesse because he's not annoying, doesn't constantly shout, and his attempts at humour aren't on a Family Guy level. I had a slight issue with him last year due to his lack of knowledge but he's improved 10 fold on that front where as Tobi still constantly messes up. I don't like Lumi because I find him akin to Magnus on a bad day in FGC commentary, he has a tendency to moan about player choices no matter if they're successful or not because they don't match his ideal of how things should be played. With that said how isn't Lumi there to be informative? LD's the colour announcer for BTS so he should be paired with somebody who can do the play by play role like how Aysess's matched with Draskyl and Tobi's matched with Waga, being informative is Lumi's main role on the team.

On a final note I think it's pretty apparent you shouldn't be assuming I don't like Ayesee when I specifically listed the 2 commentators at TI whose casting I don't enjoy.

 

[Eleuin]

Can I still set my player cards tomorrow or is today the last day?

 

[DTKT]

I'm a bit surprised that the compendium didn't hit 3.2 mil. With a game as popular as DOTA 2, would have expected it to blow through all their goals.

 

[parasight]

I was really hoping that Tobi would get Clairvoyance as his co-commentator. He's probably my favorite partner of his, other than Synderen. Not a huge fan of Waga's commentary.

 

[jediyoshi]

Bunch of press and bts shots
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.555721921131486.1073741829.232359143467767&type=1

 

[shira]

Aui (Dignitas)
Bulba (Liquid)
S4 (the Alliance)

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423588

 

[Ridli]

Bunch of press and bts shots
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.555721921131486.1073741829.232359143467767&type=1

I know it's an old joke, but there was just something about the way that XBOCT was holding the card that made me wanna....

 

[Gully State]

Just noticed that in the tourney rules anything goes..so ES blocking creeps with fissure is legal...perhaps we might even see 5 necrobook push?

 

[Pureauthor]

Just noticed that in the tourney rules anything goes..so ES blocking creeps with fissure is legal...perhaps we might even see 5 necrobook push?

Say 'Hi' to my 5 HotDs built at a third of the cost.

 

[subrock]

Never played Dota and I have no interest in playing it, but I love watching the international. The commentating is so fucking good.

 

[Usobuko]

The all star pick up isn't shabby and the solo mid tournament will be interesting.

 

[xValentine]

I fucking hope they get to banned some heroes in that 1v1 match.

Because it will be just SF vs SF 1v1 Match.

Predictions time!:

Group 1

1. LGD.cn
2. Mouz
3. DK
4. Na'Vi
5. Zenith
6. Fnatic
7. MUFC
8. Dignitas

Group 2

1. Alliance
2. IG
3. VP
4. TongFu
5. Orange
6. Liquid
7. LGD Int
8. Quantic

 

[HK-47]

I like Ayesse because he's not annoying, doesn't constantly shout, and his attempts at humour aren't on a Family Guy level. I had a slight issue with him last year due to his lack of knowledge but he's improved 10 fold on that front where as Tobi still constantly messes up. I don't like Lumi because I find him akin to Magnus on a bad day in FGC commentary, he has a tendency to moan about player choices no matter if they're successful or not because they don't match his ideal of how things should be played. With that said how isn't Lumi there to be informative? LD's the colour announcer for BTS so he should be paired with somebody who can do the play by play role like how Aysess's matched with Draskyl and Tobi's matched with Waga, being informative is Lumi's main role on the team.

On a final note I think it's pretty apparent you shouldn't be assuming I don't like Ayesee when I specifically listed the 2 commentators at TI whose casting I don't enjoy.

Ayesee really isnt that much better if at all on knowledge. Plus he doesnt do something Tobi is very good about which is let his more informed co host talk and explains things and then fills in the silence in between or when a teamfight is happening. Ayesee has a really problem not letting others like Maelk explains things, like he is way too concerned with there being a breather.

 

[Usobuko]

It's following the same format as last year right? I will just pick the 4 in each group that is going to the winner bracket. In no particular order,

Group A

LGD.cn
DK
NaVi
Maybe Zenith


Group B

iG
Tongfu
Orange
Alliance


Loser bracket in the main event is BO1 again?

 

[Seiru]

So I hear this game has custom commentary streams in game..how exactly does that work? Can anyone who's watching the stream just set themselves as a commentator and then they show up as one?

 

[Anteo]

So I hear this game has custom commentary streams in game..how exactly does that work? Can anyone who's watching the stream just set themselves as a commentator and then they show up as one?

When private games are created, there are slots for comentators. Anyone that is watching the game can select a comentator to listen to. If you want to comentate a game in client you would have to join as they create it and use one of the 4 comentator slots.

 

[Seiru]

So I take it for tournament games they just have 4 official commentary streams for each match?

I was just wondering if it was truly unlimited commentators, if they had some very "new player" focused commentaries for people who know almost nothing about Dota

 

[rhophiehalul78]

Joining in the predictions bandwagon:

Group 1
1. Na'Vi
2. LGD.cn
3. Mouz
4. DK

Group 2
1. Alliance
2. VP
3. IG
4. Liquid

 

[M.D]

How does winning items for spectating works? do I need own some item first?

 

[xValentine]

How does winning items for spectating works? do I need own some item first?

When something in the game happens (first blood, multi-kill, etc.) the game randomly selects an spectator and gives an item.

The item is tagged with the tournament name and player and event.

 

[Anteo]

So I take it for tournament games they just have 4 official commentary streams for each match?

I was just wondering if it was truly unlimited commentators, if they had some very "new player" focused commentaries for people who know almost nothing about Dota

Yeah I've never seen a game with more than 4 comentators in client.
Now, you can also watch the games on twichtv, anyone can comentate there. Plus more often than not I let the caster control the game so for me is the same as watching it on TwichTV (exepct the graphic quailty, my pc sucks)

ALso there would not be enough time to explain things to people that do not know the dota basics. I mean in big teamfights you are not going to be explaining every spell.

 

[Hazaro]

Really excited for this, thanks for the thread.

 

[F!ReW!Re]

Group 1
1. LGD.cn
2. Na'vi
3. Mouz
4. DK
5. Zenith
6. Fnatic
7. MUFC
8. Dignitas

Group 2
1. Alliance
2. IG
3. VP
4. TongFu
5. Orange
6. Liquid
7. LGD Int
8. Quantic

 

[M.D]

When something in the game happens (first blood, multi-kill, etc.) the game randomly selects an spectator and gives an item.

The item is tagged with the tournament name and player and event.

Does this code still work for the games that are going on right now?

dota_spectator_auto_spectate_games 65006

 

[shira]

Does this code still works for the games that are going on right now?

dota_spectator_auto_spectate_games 65006

Since 4 matches are going on at the same time. I'm not sure how it will work anymore.

 

[rhophiehalul78]

Since 4 matches are going on at the same time. I'm not sure how it will work anymore.

Wow. That's too many going on at the same time. Watching live games is more fun than VODS.