Each show I think had one or two decent attempts at a wrestling match it generally was enough for I to end up with 6 of their DVDs. The crowd were a little off their rockers with having some really silly chants and even on a couple shows yelling "2 small balls(!)" with every 2 count.
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Each show I think had one or two decent attempts at a wrestling match it generally was enough for I to end up with 6 of their DVDs. The crowd were a little off their rockers with having some really silly chants and even on a couple shows yelling "2 small balls(!)" with every 2 count.
ECW might be everything I hate about wrestling rolled into one company. A company that is full of swerves, run ins, and terrible wrestlers. A company that has great wrestlers, but that often get swept up in terrible angles. A company that bases its entire personal and reputation not on anything internally, but based on how they AREN'T like the other companies. We aren't mainstream, which makes us better than you. Not "what we do is great". It's "What you guys do sucks, so we don't do that". The whole promotion is based on being a hipster.
It's well known for its mature and arching storylines, but they're just as often as stupid and nonsensical than WWF and WCW angles. Joey Styles is the most annoying and try hard announcer I've ever heard. More annoying than Mike Tenay and Mark Madden. Just terrible with all his wink wink insidery references and pot shots at WCW/WWF constantly.
It started all of the problems with indie wrestling seen today. It started the fans being their own gimmicks and trying to get themselves over. Using edgy as a crutch to make up for lack of substance. ECW's impact has been terrible and is still terrible 20 years later. All the Network does is highlight how bad it was and how bad it has been for wrestling in general.
It's well known for its mature and arching storylines, but they're just as often as stupid and nonsensical than WWF and WCW angles. Joey Styles is the most annoying and try hard announcer I've ever heard. More annoying than Mike Tenay and Mark Madden. Just terrible with all his wink wink insidery references and pot shots at WCW/WWF constantly.
It started all of the problems with indie wrestling seen today. It started the fans being their own gimmicks and trying to get themselves over. Using edgy as a crutch to make up for lack of substance. ECW's impact has been terrible and is still terrible 20 years later. All the Network does is highlight how bad it was and how bad it has been for wrestling in general.
British Monsoon
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ECW's horrible to go back and watch, I actually prefer the 92/93 stuff where Eddie Gilbert had the book. Snuka, Rockin' Rebel, Tommy Cairo, Glenn Osbourne, The Super Destroyers, fuckin' OG Sandman;
ECW's horrible to go back and watch, I actually prefer the 92/93 stuff where Eddie Gilbert had the book. Snuka, Rockin' Rebel, Tommy Cairo, Glenn Osbourne, The Super Destroyers, fuckin' OG Sandman;
Serpentine
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well there was also Stevie Richards
Dagobert Duck
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Shit I forgot about him :-(
Is Paul like the most common name in wrestling? Monday Night Paul? Paul per view?
For every shit ECW match there were generally some real great contests hidden away and those had fuck all to do with being "hardcore". Brushed off matches like Jerry Lynn vs Lance Storm from Anarchy Rulz 99 were actually pretty awesome.
ECW was different, it wasn't perfect just like how WWF and WCW wernt perfect either but ECW did feel the most detached from pro wrestling.
ECW was different, it wasn't perfect just like how WWF and WCW wernt perfect either but ECW did feel the most detached from pro wrestling.
Obviously there was a lot of good wrestling and wrestlers to come through. That's not even what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the serial escalation. I'm talking about the attitude of the company and fans. I'm talking about how proud and cool people felt because they were saying BITCH on TV or talking about food stamps. It doesn't feel authentic at all. It doesn't feel like they were trying to change wrestling or start a movement like they said or like the history is portrayed as. It feels like a very calculated attempt to be SO COOL, GOD LOOK AT HOW FUCKING COOL WE ARE, SO MUCH COOLER THAN THE MAINSTREAM. It's some straight hipstery bullshit, regardless of what was good and what wasn't on the shows themselves.
There is nothing less cool than a hipster trying to put off the image of being a hipster instead of just being that person for real.
There is nothing less cool than a hipster trying to put off the image of being a hipster instead of just being that person for real.
Officerrob
Banned
I can understand someone not liking ECW, but thinking Joey Styles was more annoying than Mike Tenay and Mark Madden? That's fucking lunacy
Psykotik
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in the latest episode of IGN's podcast beyond, greg miller tells a story about the time he touched CM punk and punk got all pissy at him.
starts at the 54 min 40 sec mark
http://traffic.libsyn.com/beyond/Podcast_Beyond_Episode_353.mp3
starts at the 54 min 40 sec mark
http://traffic.libsyn.com/beyond/Podcast_Beyond_Episode_353.mp3
Officerrob
Banned
Double edged sword with that story. Punk absolutely handled it wrong, but I'm sure getting grabbed all the time has got to be really annoying
cr_blah_blah
Member
Stro, was and is Tommy Dreamer as important and great as Tommy Dreamer thinks he is?
I can understand not wanting to be touched, but at least be nice about it.
I have read recently on the sheets that AJ has started a "no touching" rule for male fans wanting to take candids with her, after being touched inappropriately by a guy taking a picture with her. Not sure if the male wrestlers have this issue too, but I can understand stuff like that. Picture? Fine, stand next to me, no hug needed, fine.
But don't lose your shit over it. But this is CM Punk, he always overreacts to random fan encounters, guy is just weird that way. People just get excited meeting you, that's supposed to be a good thing and something to be happy about. People fucking like you, who doesn't want to be liked?
I had to turn off the second part of that podcast.
I can understand the no touching rule.
I never really understood why so many adult fans feel the need to touch the wrestlers when they go out into the crowd or walk down the aisle or whatever.
If you're 10 and starstruck, that's cute. It's a different story if you're 40 and need to touch Roman Reigns as he makes his way down the aisle.
I never really understood why so many adult fans feel the need to touch the wrestlers when they go out into the crowd or walk down the aisle or whatever.
If you're 10 and starstruck, that's cute. It's a different story if you're 40 and need to touch Roman Reigns as he makes his way down the aisle.
Tommy Dreamer wasn't even great with in ECW itself, which had guys like Jason, Sandman, 911, Sal Bellomo, Ian and Axel Rotten, Johnny Grunge, Harris Brothers, Konnan, Mustafa, New Jack, Danny Doring, Roadkill, Chris Chetti, Belvis, and so on.
Also I am legit shook over finding out that the Guerreros aren't even Guerreros. They are Llanes. Guerrero is a family middle name. Gory's last name was Quesada. Gory's wife's last name was Llanes, which is the actual surname of the all the Guerrero wrestlers. Is there a Mexican tradition I'm not aware of where the family takes the father's last name as a middle name and mother's last name as surname?
Yeah I hate seeing all those guys touching Roman as he makes his entrance, I bet Seth and Dean are happy they don't have to deal with that anymore
Stro-bro, it's wrasslin'. The Von Erich family is the same way.
Of course. Von Erich makes sense since Fritz was a got dang wrasslin Nazi and that's a pretty German name. But Guerrero not being their real last name is fucking weird. It is a Mexican naming tradition as I found, though. Still. Gory's last name isn't even Guerrero. I'm shooked. I'm legit shooked.
Just wait until you find out Hulk Hogan isn't actually called Hulk... OR HOGAN!
Brooke Hogan, Nick Hogan, IT IS ALL A SHAM!
Dagobert Duck
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Dagobert Duck
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Well his name isnt Paul as every other wrestler/managers name is...
Monday Night Paul live from St. Paul Cathedral...
"Guerrero" translates to "Warrior", so it fits with the Lucha/Wrasslin' mentality. I grew up in a town with a fairly large Hispanic population (my best friend growing up was named Benjamin Jose Salazar Garza, that's pretty damn Mexican) and I don't know anyone with the last name Guerrero.
Viva La Raza!
I also drove an '81 El Camino from '94 to '03. True story.
Viva La Raza!
I also drove an '81 El Camino from '94 to '03. True story.
Dagobert Duck
Member
On the other hand you would think BROCKKKK LESNAR isnt a real name...but it is...
Paul Lesnar would be even better
The Mango Sentinel
Member
Damn I actually just bought a bottle of that the other day. Haven't opened it yet though. Might have to this weekend
Hahaha.
Needs more Paul's
I can only think of 3 others though.
Paul Orndorff
Paul Ellering
Paul London
Fucking carnies.
HIGH DEF JEFF
Banned
The last WWE magazine cover. Very fitting, pity he couldn't rise from cancellation.
edit: fuck, it's not the last one, I'll just pretend it is
Has anyone ever read an article from the magazine?
How much more John Cena (and Randy Orton) content besides 5 hours of televison, youtube clips and the app can they come up with.
Dagobert Duck
Member
So we agree. WWE needs more Paul
Polka Paul
Phony Paul
Paulie McPaulsen
SirPaul
StarPaul
I was subbed to the iPad magazine for a while because it was cheap (not even 20 bucks for a year), it's surprisingly good actually.
Dagobert Duck
Member
I think there was or even is a WWE Magazine in germany too. Never bought it but its usually full of posters...
Mr. Luchador
Member
Spanish naming conventions usually have the family name in the middle, which is usually Father's Surname and than Mother's Surname.
The Terry Ebola virus ran wild in the 80s too, but it was simply referred to as Hulkamania back then!
womp womp
Mr. Luchador
Member
They should turn this into a storyline, but then I'm pretty into the pseudo-real storyline idea at the moment. I think I'm being possessed by the spirit of Vince Russo, as I can't help but feel that merging public knowledge into the product would help due to the internet and news coverage WWE gets these days.
They run it like public stock business, so why not merge the storylines too. We all know the ins and outs of what's going on (more or less). It works for Total Divas.
They run it like public stock business, so why not merge the storylines too. We all know the ins and outs of what's going on (more or less). It works for Total Divas.
Dagobert Duck
Member
Storyline Vince McMahon versus Paul Levesque "you are ruining this company you old senile chimp!" Steph torn between "Father" and "Hunter" Wrestlers backing up Paul cause he is there for the money and he is best for buisness. It writes itself. But unfortunatly WWE got writers so nothing writes itself especially with Vince around "puke all over Paul"
Mr. Luchador
Member
Yeah, wrestlers being on edge about losing their jobs, rifts within the roster who will be loyal to who, etc. You could have had the JTG ducking and dodging storyline with someone avoiding Vince McMahon/their phone so they don't get fired, or even more subtle avoiding the cameramen/disappearing from shot whenever they turn up.
Wrestlers with 'nothing from creative' just going out to prove their worth with great wrestling matches, or showcasing stupid new gimmicks.
Hell, want to make Dean Ambrose a real loose cannon? 'Fire him' for budget reasons, and have him invade the shows/youtube.
Dagobert Duck
Member
Best idea ever. So we won't get it...
Bring back Zack Ryders show purely for Ambrose to kick the everloving shit out of him.
Obviously, Maddox has already had it bad enough in a cave...