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August Wrasslin’ |OT| When Russo Shoots, He Shoots To Kill

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Verendus

Banned
Every big man in the WWE gives his opponent a shower. Lesnar, Batista, Henry...I'm sure I'm forgetting some people.

Goldberg was the only one who didn't. He was...unsweatable.
 
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Sibersk Esto

Banned
DMczaf said:
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buried by his family goddam
 
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Showaddy

Member
The Silver said:
People keep saying Lesnar has bad matches, they forget he constantly says he's not here to entertain or have a wrestling match, he just wants to beat the shit out of the other guy. That's exactly what he demonstrated in that match with Cena.
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And saying he has bad matches is silly when his matches this year have been a couple of squashes (and no one does squashes quite like Brock) and carrying Taker's concussed body around for 20 minutes. His match last year with Punk was MOTY.
 
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BHZ Mayor

Member
Sephzilla said:
If they'd bring back an old guy to wrestle Brock I'd rather have Austin to be perfectly honest. Austin just seems like more of the brawler type who wouldn't be afraid to walk up to Brock and punch him in the face.

Too bad Austin's neck is probably more fragile than Bryan's.
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That mini-feud they had in 2003, if only he had been in wrestling condition. Sigh.
 
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jred2k

Member
They may not end up doing anything with it, but WWE seems to have created a lot of buzz for themselves. I haven't refreshed either this thread or the SummerSlam OT today without there being a wall of new posts. Damn near every post is about Brock.
 
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Data West

coaches in the WNBA
Everyone likes to make the Cena and Rock comparisons when they defend Roman Reigns like they're the only ones. To me, Roman Reigns is more like Ken Kennedy. Has a couple things that are over but isn't there at all as the overallpackage yet is pushed like he is. 'He's a main eventer because we say he is, and you'll just have to get used to it.'
 
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Verendus

Banned
simplythebest said:
But since Brock's debut. Hes only lost 5 times. Including tag matches. 

Now that's dominance


Stephanie gets wet
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Lost to Big Slow, lost to Angle twice (once by tapout), tapped out to Benoit, lost to Eddie, was made Goldberg's bitch, lost to Cena, and lost to King Haitch at Wrestlemania. That's eight off the top of my head.

It's okay-ish considering his career is about three years in total. Aside from Big Slow. Loses pretty much most of his cool points with that.

Edit:

Almost forgot, he also lost to Taker on Smackdown. And I'm sure he lost to Big Slow on Smackdown too. That's ten.

More points deducted for another loss to Big Slow.

Smackdown was pretty good back then. You got Undertaker vs. Big Show vs. Lesnar. On Smackdown. Look at what it's like now.
 
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TheWarrior

Banned
jred2k said:
They may not end up doing anything with it, but WWE seems to have created a lot of buzz for themselves. I haven't refreshed either this thread or the SummerSlam OT today without there being a wall of new posts. Damn near every post is about Brock.
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to be fair, if Cena won the SummerSlam thread would have been 150 "fuck this company posts" and this thread would be on fire all day with all kinds of salt
 
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Sweeney Tom

Banned
Del Rio did an interview. Long read, but a good read

PWInsider said:
Alberto Del Rio appeared on Televisa's Primero Noticias in Mexico. Here is a recap:
On being fired, Del Rio said there was an incident, an altercation with a WWE employee, that one day he’ll give all of the details on. Right now he’s assessing the best way to do so via legal means, so that everything he says isn’t used against him, since legal matters in the U.S. are handled differently than they are in Mexico.

He said there was an incident where he was offended, where he was completely the victim. He said WWE made a statement that he displayed unprofessional conduct, and that yes it’s true, that he smacked the WWE employee because as he always says, you can take away his job but you can’t take away his dignity and his pride, nor try to offend or humiliate where he comes from, which is of course Mexico, and he doesn’t forget his roots. This problem led to the termination of his contract with WWE.

The interviewer asked if ADR was the victim of racism. Alberto says yes, that there were comments this employee made, and that he admitted he reacted in an inappropriate manner. He said that he wouldn't advise anyone to conduct themselves in the manner that he did. He admitted that he "smacked" the WWE employee and that he is completely embarrassed by his own attitude and by his own reaction, but in that moment, he demanded an apology.

The interviewer interrupted ADR and asked what the employee said to him, Alberto says that part he’s gonna keep to himself for now. He said he's a few days away from being able to tell the world exactly what happened. He said that a lot of people know what happened because there were many people present there in the WWE catering area. The interviewer asks who else was there, Alberto says right next to him was Jack Swagger, one of the referees was behind him, people from the crew, etc. They were all eating in Laredo, Texas at a TV taping.

ADR said he spoke to Vince McMahon after the incident occurred and everything appeared to be fine. Interviewer backs up to the incident, Alberto says someone said something to the WWE employee, and when he responded to the comment, the response was directed at Alberto.

The interviewer asks if he’s had any incidents with this employee before and Alberto says yes. He said that "a while back" there was a time the WWE employee was pretending to read something on his laptop and said, “It says on here Alberto is a ‘tal por cual’ “ (Mexican slang for a slut) and that he tried to play it off like it was a joke and shake Alberto’s hand. Alberto refused and told the employee to get away from him. He said this incident occurred 7 or 8 months prior to the slap. So when this incident occurred recently, Alberto demanded an apology, but that the WWE employee walked right up to Alberto’s face, smirked at him and said nothing. That's when Alberto smacked him. Again, he said he is embarrassed by his reaction, but he doesn’t regret it. He said that yes, it cost him his job, but he thinks WWE is the one who loses the most in this situation.

The interviewer asks if it was another wrestler who he had this incident with, Alberto says no, that it’s their Social Media Manager. He says he never even knew this person's name until after all of this happened. WWE released a statement saying Alberto was fired due to unprofessional conduct, but he wonders why they didn’t mention there was an isolated incident that led to his unprofessional conduct.

Alberto said after the incident happened, Vince McMahon asked to speak to him. Alberto said that Vince himself told him that he understood where Alberto was coming from and why he was upset by the comment, because first he’s insulted and then after the insult the guy smirks in his face. Vince said that he understood ADR's reaction. Everything appeared to be fine after his talk with Vince.

ADR was suspended the next day, which he understood, but that for reasons WWE later decided, they changed their mind and was let go.

Alberto said Triple H called him Thursday morning and told him that it hurts WWE more because they’ve invested a lot of time and money into him, but that they need to let him go. Alberto told him that it was fine, and that once his release was made public AAA contacted him, Japan contacted him, some North American promotions as well.

Alberto said that he has not had any other conversations with WWE since his release, but that word got out of what happened from other people who witnessed the incident occur.

He said going forward, he’s using El Patron now since WWE owns “Alberto Del Rio” (his real name is Jose Alberto Rodriguez). They asked him if he’s going to sue WWE, he said he’s not sure. He said that the reason he went to a lawyer is because when he received his release in the mail, they mentioned he couldn’t wrestle in the United States for a year. ADR admitted he’s not fully familiar with the laws in the U.S. but he thinks it’s unconstitutional to prevent him from wrestling, since that’s how he makes a living and feeds his family.

Del Rio was asked if he wants to wrestle again in the U.S. He says no and that he was already considering not signing a new contract when his contract was up next February. He said he wasn’t sure if he was going to stay or go, so he’s not sure what would have happened, but unfortunately this incident happened which forced him out of the company. He spoke with his wife after he was let go and decided he wasn’t going to pursue legal action against WWE, but then he received his termination letter with the 1 year no compete clause and that changed everything.
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Data West

coaches in the WNBA
How come sunny wants wrassle-gaf to be a progressive place, but he wears the namesake of a man who houses and pays many racists?

How sunny, how come?
 
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Kano on the Phone

Member
I hope this whole Del Rio thing keeps the racism in WWE thing at high visibility. It's pretty ridiculous how blatent it is an dhow long it's been going on.

Thorakai said:
a one year no compete clause is pretty bullshit regardless of what went down
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He agreed to it, so he must have thought it was a sufficient price of admission.
 
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Zach

Member
1983
Starrcade '83: A Flair for the Gold - B

1984
Starrcade '84: The Million Dollar Challenge - C

1985
WrestleMania - B-
The Wrestling Classic - D+
Starrcade '85: The Gathering - C

1986
WrestleMania 2 - C+
The Big Event - C-
Starrcade '86: The Sky Walkers - C+

1987
WrestleMania III - B-
Starrcade '87: Chi-Town Heat - C+
Survivor Series '87 - C-

1988
Bunkhouse Stampede '88 - C-
Royal Rumble '88 - C-
Clash of the Champions I - B+
WrestleMania IV - C
Clash of the Champions II - C+
The Great American Bash '88 - B
SummerSlam '88 - D
Clash of the Champions III - C-
Survivor Series '88 - D
Clash of the Champions IV - C+
Starrcade '88: True Gritt - B

1989
Royal Rumble '89 - F
Clash of the Champions V - C-
Clash of the Champions VI - B
WrestleMania V - B-
WrestleWar '89 - C
Clash of the Champions VII - C+
The Great American Bash '89 - B+
SummerSlam '89 - C
Clash of the Champions VIII - B-
Halloween Havoc '89 - C+
Clash of the Champions IX - B
Survivor Series '89 - D+
Starrcade '89: Future Shock - C+

1990
Royal Rumble '90 - D+
Clash of the Champions X - B-
WrestleWar '90 - C
WrestleMania VI - B
Capital Combat: The Return of Robocop - B-
Clash of the Champions XI - C
The Great American Bash '90 - B-
SummerSlam '90 - D
Clash of the Champions XII - D
Halloween Havoc '90 - C-
Clash of the Champions XIII - D
Survivor Series '90 - D+
Starrcade '90: Collision Course - B-

1991
Royal Rumble '91 - D+
Clash of the Champions XIV - B-
WrestleWar '91 - C+
WrestleMania VII - D+
SuperBrawl - C-
Clash of the Champions XV - B-
The Great American Bash '91 - F
SummerSlam '91 - C-
Clash of the Champions XVI - C
Halloween Havoc '91 - B-
Clash of the Champions XVII - B-
Survivor Series '91 - D
This Tuesday in Texas - C
Starrcade '91: Battlebowl - C-

1992
Royal Rumble '92 - B-
Clash of the Champions XVIII - B
SuperBrawl II - B+
WrestleMania VIII - B-
WrestleWar '92 - B-
Beach Blast '92 - B+
Clash of the Champions XIX - B
The Great American Bash '92 - C+
SummerSlam '92 - C-
Clash of the Champions XX - B+
Halloween Havoc '92 - C-
Clash of the Champions XXI - C+
Survivor Series '92 - C-
Starrcade '92 - B-

1993
Clash of the Champions XXII - B
Royal Rumble '93 - C
SuperBrawl III - B-
WrestleMania IX - C-
Slamboree '93 - D+
King of the Ring '93 - C+
Clash of the Champions XXIII - C+
Beach Blast '93 - B-
Clash of the Champions XXIV - C+
SummerSlam '93 - D
Fall Brawl '93 - C-
Halloween Havoc '93 - C+
Clash of the Champions XXV - C-
BattleBowl - D
Survivor Series '93 - F
Starrcade '93 - C

1994
Royal Rumble '94 - C-
Clash of the Champions XXVI - B-
SuperBrawl IV - B-
WrestleMania X - B-
Spring Stampede '94 - B
Slamboree '94 - C
King of the Ring '94 - D
Clash of the Champions XXVII - C
Bash at the Beach '94 - C-
Clash of the Champions XXVIII - C+
SummerSlam '94 - C-
Fall Brawl '94 - C-
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Hogan didn't even show up for this event but the fans booed like crazy when Mean Gene mentioned him. Heh...
 
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Deleted member 47027

Unconfirmed Member
Dragonzord said:
How come sunny wants wrassle-gaf to be a progressive place, but he wears the namesake of a man who houses and pays many racists?

How sunny, how come?
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I promote things like Vince Mack Mayons.
 
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Net_Wrecker

Member
I can't believe how ridiculous people are being with the whole "believability" argument. It's like they don't realize what booking is supposed to do. Building someone up as a badass to take down the big bad wolf is the entire point of professional wrestling. Like.....have people forgotten how this works? All Brock's shooter background and physique does is make the writers' job easier. Ultimately though, believability occurs when a guy with the right in-ring charisma is booked so well that the crowd buys into what's happening. That's it. See every wrestler 6'2" and under that believably took down foes much bigger than them, to the point of guys like Austin steamrolling through entire factions.

If you wanna complain that the Creative Team™ doesn't have the skill to book someone to be a believable opponent, that's one thing. But to count out anyone because of their current position on the card or physical appearance in wrestling makes no sense to me. Hornswaggle is going too far. Raging Daniel Bryan who nearly killed a guy that broke into his house, had to watch his wife get humiliated, and is now on a revenge mission murdering everyone in front of him is a money match.
 
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Showaddy

Member
Patryn said:
Entirely possible.

It's also possible that the guy got reprimanded/fired but we just haven't heard anything because it's some social media guy and not anybody you've ever heard of.
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Those dodgy tweets from the social media team on twitter saying people should blame Del Rio and no one else and that he's responsible for his own actions stink though if this really is as cut and dry as Del Rio's making it out to be.
 
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sonikokaruto

Banned
Kano on the Phone said:
I hope this whole Del Rio thing keeps the racism in WWE thing at high visibility. It's pretty ridiculous how blatent it is an dhow long it's been going on.



He agreed to it, so he must have thought it was a sufficient price of admission.
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don't you worry about it. KENTA will become the IC champ, screwing ziggler and then putting him on a streak of loses and putting him in the doghouse.

He'd rather stay in nxt u_u
 
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Caspel

Business & Marketing Manager @ GungHo
I'd like to see Rusev move onto feuding with Sheamus if they intend on keeping Sheamus face. Ziggler and Wyatt would be fun, should Jericho be moving on for another break. For Paige, I'm guessing Charlotte is on her way up from NXT; if not, Naomi or Natalya could be up to bat if Paige is playing heel.

After attending Summerslam last night, gf said she wants to go to Mania. She'll want Batista and Sheamus on the Mania card since those are two of her favorites right now with Punk gone.
 
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StylesClash

Member
plagiarize said:
I think Cesaro would be most believable. I mean, obviously he's been on a losing streak and you'd need to fix that, but just have him do a bunch of feats of strength. Follow what they did to make Mark Henry a legit threat after years of being a joke.

When a guy is legitimately incredibly strong, you can turn them around pretty fast I think. If you need a face... simple. Have Rusev go ape shit and beat the piss out of Jack Swagger and then have Cesaro beat Rusev. Instant legitimacy.
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I already said cesaro should go after rusev because he kicked zeb in the head last night.
 
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BronsonLee

Member
Yo that reads like Del Rio smacked Kevin Dunn in the face for being a dickhead

They can sweep stuff under the rug for some such, but between a worker and Dunn, they'll always pick Dunn. The Social Media Manager thing doesn't make sense. You fire that guy for being a racist.
 
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somedevil

Member
RandyBobandy said:
So Bertie gets fired for slapping a racist, yet nothing happens to the other guy?
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Well, it seems the guy threatened to sue for unsafe work environment and that threat got Alberto fired.

The problem is how do you fire a guy that got attacked and threatens to sue you? He needs to be let go but how do you do that will out him suing you?
 
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UrbanDandy

Member
Legit question:

I friend of mine took photos of a WWE house show and posted them on a free blog site. WWE via the site is planning on suing her. do they have that right, or does my friend have the right to post them?
 
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UrbanDandy

Member
somedevil said:
Well, it seems the guy threatened to sue for unsafe work environment and that threat got Alberto fired.

The problem is how do you fire a guy that got attacked and threatens to sue you? He needs to be let go but how do you do that will out him suing you?
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Quite the conundrum. Seems like this guy pigeonholed WWE. The logical way to fire the social media guy and replace him with someone else. I'd argue (to my current understanding) that anyone can be a 'social media specialist,' but he must be good, and he has the support of the McMahon family, so unfortunately he won't leave any time soon.
 
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Vylash

Member
Caspel said:
I'd like to see Rusev move onto feuding with Sheamus if they intend on keeping Sheamus face. Ziggler and Wyatt would be fun, should Jericho be moving on for another break. For Paige, I'm guessing Charlotte is on her way up from NXT; if not, Naomi or Natalya could be up to bat if Paige is playing heel.

After attending Summerslam last night, gf said she wants to go to Mania. She'll want Batista and Sheamus on the Mania card since those are two of her favorites right now with Punk gone.
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