Liquidsnake
Banned
Im with TWC. MY box indicated it was recording RAW, so around 11:15 om last night I sit down to watch it, and I cant find it.
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August Wrasslin |OT| When Russo Shoots, He Shoots To Kill
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Poor Ryder. The same Ryder who won on Raw a few weeks ago and got to kiss and dance with Summer and Layla.
Almost every metric possible agrees though.
Guess that was a one time deal.
What? Have you seen ECW shows? The last few years had what you were talking about. Before that, half the show was ads about live events, and nonsensical promos that had no structure.
riskVSreward
Member
I've been meaning to ask you... Do you actually like Kane or is it some kind of elaborate troll?
I think he respects Kane legitimately. As a worker and family fan.
Professor Beef
Banned
Is...is that a walmart?
No. It's wrasslin at THE Walmart.
I actually like Kane.
riskVSreward
Member
Oh. The Demon Kane, or any Kane? Kane the character or Kane's matches? Glenn Jacobs? Like Fake Diesel too?
Everything.
The Mango Sentinel
Member
At least we got that awesome gif. Someone post it please.
I thought they were advertising the WWE Network on top for a second
Hopefully retired Kane.
I like Kane, but he's reaching Big Show-tier of sticking around the main event picture and bringing everything down
bean breath
Member
I'd like to see the Kane character make it to 20 years in WWE. I believe Glen Jacobs as a performer is pretty close to celebrating his 20th anniversary with WWE.
What? What main event? The guy has done nothing over the past few months but be in multi man matches and he didn't bring them down. Matches were garbage with or without him. Since then, he's just jobbed to Reigns. Before that, he was in a feud with Bryan that produced one fun gimmick match. If anything brought that down, it was Bryan's own neck.
Raven is also heavily featured in the Heyman doc interviews.
Mr. Luchador
Member
I'm hoping for Cantankerous Kane.
I'm so unsure on Raven. He's clearly a talented guy, and whenever there are documentaries people within wrestling seem to rave
about him as a brilliant mind. I feel like I've seen that maybe in his matches now and again, but all I can remember are those phoned in fatty Raven performances for some reason. However, having said that I enjoyed his time in TNA (somewhat), and his matches with Abyss were pretty fun.
His feud with CM Punk in ROH seems amazing too.
Maybe I just don't get it.
I'm so unsure on Raven. He's clearly a talented guy, and whenever there are documentaries people within wrestling seem to rave
about him as a brilliant mind. I feel like I've seen that maybe in his matches now and again, but all I can remember are those phoned in fatty Raven performances for some reason. However, having said that I enjoyed his time in TNA (somewhat), and his matches with Abyss were pretty fun. His feud with CM Punk in ROH seems amazing too.
Maybe I just don't get it.
lovely ladies
Member
Kane should wear the Sin Cara costume for one episode.
You can't replace him
Dick Justice
Banned
So everyone tuned out before Brie could be inflicted on them. Good.
Singularity42
Member
I think I watched maybe 25 minutes of RAW. Having to fast forward through 90% of a 3 hour program sucks. I'm losing my will and desire to watch this type of shit week after week.
How the hell do you have guys like Dutch and Heyman as on screen characters yet not have them involved in creative at all. Both men have a ton of years in the business and both have booked or written in multiple promotions. Seems like they are wasting valuable talent when WWE really isn't in a position to do that right now.
How the hell do you have guys like Dutch and Heyman as on screen characters yet not have them involved in creative at all. Both men have a ton of years in the business and both have booked or written in multiple promotions. Seems like they are wasting valuable talent when WWE really isn't in a position to do that right now.
dude isn't going to throw a hissy fit for losing a pretend match on a children's show
Professor Beef
Banned
He's like Jericho, but huge (size-wise). He's an established big man who, despite having more losses than wins recently, can make a match seem more threatening/important.
Honestly Kane doesn't even seem that threatening anymore :/
Singularity42
Member
Problem is that angle won't take the blame. It'll get blamed on everything that came before it in hour 3. Which to be honest the whole show was hot garbage.
bean breath
Member
The numbers started off well with the anticipation of Daniel Bryan potentially accompanying his wife, Bella, to the contract signing.
The numbers peaked in the second hour when viewers alerted their friends and family about an imminent Daniel Bryan appearance.
Viewership fell in the last hour when it was revealed that Nikki not Daniel, was joining Bella.
Professor Beef
Banned
Neither does Jericho. But that's because you and me already know this shit. The audience at large doesn't know/care, so when they see someone huge like Kane or a superstar like Jericho, their attention is piqued.
Net_Wrecker
Member
I'm not gonna deny that ECW was, at times, a music video X infomercial. But in the best conditions, when they had more fully formed shows and PPVs, it was exciting. Then when Heyman got control of SD, it was the best period in Smackdown's history. And though I realize everything seems better on paper, his thoughts on where he would've taken TNA, and brought in Daniel Bryan to basically recreate the Taz gimmick as well as ejecting all the ancient talent... Would've been a great time. At the very least it would've been wild and fresh faces would've been getting pushed.
Booking's not just about storylines, it's about creating a product that connects with the audience. You can look back at 70s-80s wrestling footage where nothing is happening and storylines were incredibly basic, but the crowd is going ballistic. That's good booking. The fact that ECW chants are only just starting to die out in the last few years should be evidence enough.
I'm so unsure on Raven. He's clearly a talented guy, and whenever there are documentaries people within wrestling seem to rave
His feud with CM Punk in ROH seems amazing too.
Maybe I just don't get it.
Raven was an amazing character. Not compelling in the ring, but great in promos
I wear my wrestling shirts out in public and I've never had a negative experience. Unless you count socializing with other wrestling fans outside of the internet negative, then I'd be at three.
I've had to stop wearing my Yes! t-shirt lately because of the Scottish Independence marketing. It's simply a "Yes." So everyone thinks I'm walking around promoting the independence :/
Singularity42
Member
Amazing to think this is the same company that used to average a 5.9 rating yearly and could easily pop 6.0, 7.0 and 8.0 ratings in the past.
Even if I put my smarkiness aside, I don't know if I'd find him threatening. He doesn't win matches anymore, he seems to kind of rely on sneak attacks, his offense is pretty limited, and I kind of think Korporate Kane murdered his character.
In general most "big guys" in the company don't feel threatening anymore.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
Yeah, I see how that could be a problem; especially if you don't support it.
I have the same shirt ^_^
Why is Daniel Bryan not by his wife's side during this whole thing?
Is he waiting for the printers to print his paper work? I hear those things can take forever.