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August Wrasslin’ |OT| When Russo Shoots, He Shoots To Kill

Xater

Member
Raw Viewership for 8/5

8pm: 4.075
9pm: 4.193
10pm: 3.877

Avg: 4.048

Down compared to last week and down 131,000 compared to last year. It looks like the show needed more Brock and Cena plus Brie at the end isn't working as a closing angle.

Yet earlier some people wanted to tell me that somehow Steph vs Brie is a draw. Clearly it is not.
 

somedevil

Member
Why is Daniel Bryan not by his wife's side during this whole thing?

Is he waiting for the printers to print his paper work? I hear those things can take forever.

He waiting for Summerslam to put a chokehold on Triple H from behind to help Brie win the match.

Also, he getting ready for elbow surgery.
 

SoulPlaya

more money than God
I'm not gonna deny that ECW was, at times, a music video X infomercial. But in the best conditions, when they had more fully formed shows and PPVs, it was exciting. Then when Heyman got control of SD, it was the best period in Smackdown's history. And though I realize everything seems better on paper, his thoughts on where he would've taken TNA, and brought in Daniel Bryan to basically recreate the Taz gimmick as well as ejecting all the ancient talent... Would've been a great time. At the very least it would've been wild and fresh faces would've been getting pushed.
Once again, I already said he was a good writer and booker. Just not a genius. SD! at the time had a great lockerroom, and Heyman helped put on a good show. Just because the WWE's usually crappy booking forces us to lower our expectations, doesn't mean I'm going to lower my definition of what a genius is.
 

SoulPlaya

more money than God
Even if I put my smarkiness aside, I don't know if I'd find him threatening. He doesn't win matches anymore, he seems to kind of rely on sneak attacks, his offense is pretty limited, and I kind of think Korporate Kane murdered his character.

In general most "big guys" in the company don't feel threatening anymore.
Even Jericho gets a win now and again. Kane has been jobbing nonstop for almost a year. That'll kill anyone's threatening ability. The difference is that all Kane has to do is put on a mask, give some creepy promo, sit up, etc. and bam, his threatening ability to the general audience is back.

Kane's main effectiveness now is losing matches. It's why he's in all those main events. A young guy could do it, sure, but it'll likely kill that guy's career. Cesaro has lost a few matches recently, and people are already talking about how he's buried and finished.
 
The best is coming out to the song 3 man band when only one member remains... and he has the same amount of victories as the stable did their entire career.
 
Aladdin becomes a prince. Mufasa dies. Freddy Krueger never dies. Zeus dies in No Holds Barred.

Zeus really died at the end? I've only seen it once and can't remember, I should check it out tonight on netflix.

Ok look, if it's more than 5 years old, then it's fair game :/

Still shitty.

5 years is reasonable, OP in the thread was advocating a strict policy no matter how old it is. That's a little much.
 

strobogo

Banned
Zeus really died at the end? I've only seen it once and can't remember, I should check it out tonight on netflix.

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Razorskin

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Exactly. I guess nobody told Yukes or THQ about that though.

My second match in WWE '13 had Hunter run the ropes indefinitely after his tag partner was shaking the ropes when he hit them so there was never any collision detection or something.You can't tell me that never happened during development.

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Data West

coaches in the WNBA
Zeus the character dies, but not Zeus the 'actor' because he has an onscreen feud with Hulk Hogan.

NOT Rip. No Holds Barred is like Nolan films 2deep4u
 
Fat Ruckus;

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Worst conchairto ever, sells it anyway;

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Ruckus & Fujita pinned Berk so I thought it must be an elimination match, but then the ref announced both guys as the winner. Weird. The match before it was dull, but entirely botch-free and featured nothing gif worthy. The next match features The SAT, so I'm sure I'll be able to find something.
 

strobogo

Banned
According to an in-character interview with Brell, the ending of No Holds Barred was Hogan shooting brother

What the fuck? How is there an in-character interview with Brell, who also died at the end of the movie? He was electrocuted. Pretty sure he died. Is the interview post-electrocution? How many levels of work is involved in that movie?
 

MBison

Member
Are there any other good video pod casts like the Old School Wrestling vidcasts? They go through all the hulk era WWF ppvs and they are excellent with reviews, behind the scenes stuff, and various humor and tidbits.

Thanks!
 

Xater

Member
Are there any other good video pod casts like the Old School Wrestling vidcasts? They go through all the hulk era WWF ppvs and they are excellent with reviews, behind the scenes stuff, and various humor and tidbits.

Thanks!

Oh yes those guys are great. I am sad that I am all caught up because now it always takes a while for a new episode to be released. I am also not aware of anything like it that's also video.
 
Wow, that match was a chore. A 20 minute spotfest with everyone getting their shit in and no one selling nothing - Chris Devine took a 2nd rope tombstone and was back in the ring a minute later.

Surprisingly not terrible from Brian XL;

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One of SAT's (many) convoluted triple-teams;

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Chris Devine murders Red with a top-rope powerbomb (near-fall);

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Not so Amazing Red almost breaks Brian XL's dumb neck;

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OK, he's still kinda amazing;

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Data West

coaches in the WNBA
SoulPlaya you should go to that Olivia WIlde thread and then reconsider your stance on how bad we are around pretty ladies
 

SoulPlaya

more money than God
SoulPlaya you should go to that Olivia WIlde thread and then reconsider your stance on how bad we are around pretty ladies
It's not you guys. It's just the internet. I guess it wouldn't be so bad if NeoGAF just accepted itself for what it is, but it doesn't. The OT goes from outrage to downright perverseness in a flash. Users here like to act like this place is some bastion of intellectual debate, when in reality, most users here are complete idiots, but most of them have never actually been around genuinely intelligent people, so they can't tell the difference.

It's the hypocrisy. One point it's PC all throughout a thread, but perverted during other points. We can't insult one group, but others are open season. The mods deliberate based on their own whims, and it's silly. People here are just weirdos on the internet, desperate for the attention they can't get in real life, but like to act like they're some big shots. Straight up, people are just marks for themselves.
 

strobogo

Banned

Wait up wait up hold the phone. So NHB is supposed to be a movie where everyone except Hogan plays themselves, where Hogan decided to change the script and attack his co-stars for real, which was then kept in the movie? And that's the reason why Zeus came to the WWF? Because Hulk Hogan broke script and SHOT on the set of the movie? Even though by 1989, Tiny Lister had been in multiple TV shows and movies, and Kurt Fuller had been in two pretty well known movies (Running Man and Ghostbusters II)? My brain
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It's not you guys. It's just the internet. I guess it wouldn't be so bad if NeoGAF just accepted itself for what it is, but it doesn't. The OT goes from outrage to downright perverseness in a flash. Users here like to act like this place is some bastion of intellectual debate, when in reality, most users here are complete idiots, but most of them have never actually been around genuinely intelligent people, so they can't tell the difference.

It's the hypocrisy. One point it's PC all throughout a thread, but perverted during other points. We can't insult one group, but others are open season. The mods deliberate based on their own whims, and it's silly. People here are just weirdos on the internet, desperate for the attention they can't get in real life, but like to act like they're some big shots. Straight up, people are just marks for themselves.
What a shoot. So true breh.
 
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Deleted member 47027

Unconfirmed Member
It's not you guys. It's just the internet. I guess it wouldn't be so bad if NeoGAF just accepted itself for what it is, but it doesn't. The OT goes from outrage to downright perverseness in a flash. Users here like to act like this place is some bastion of intellectual debate, when in reality, most users here are complete idiots, but most of them have never actually been around genuinely intelligent people, so they can't tell the difference.

It's the hypocrisy. One point it's PC all throughout a thread, but perverted during other points. We can't insult one group, but others are open season. The mods deliberate based on their own whims, and it's silly. People here are just weirdos on the internet, desperate for the attention they can't get in real life, but like to act like they're some big shots. Straight up, people are just marks for themselves.

Sometimes you bust your ass making a topic that will out fuckheads and get them banned
 

strobogo

Banned
I find it hard to believe that so many guys are so hard up that they lose their minds at the sight of a hot girl online. I've never understood the guys who have to say the weirdest/grossest shit at the sight of any girl (would drag my dick through glass and eat her farts kind of nonsense). Or the idea that they can't just look at porn whenever. So many dudes get weird just to get weird. GAF is weird about a lot of shit though. Like every title needing to be a pun, and then the first page and a half being people trying to come up with the best puns, no matter how terrible the subject.
 

MBison

Member
Oh yes those guys are great. I am sad that I am all caught up because now it always takes a while for a new episode to be released. I am also not aware of anything like it that's also video.

Noooo boo. Yes they are great, I'm not caught up yet thankfully but damn it's gonna suck when I am.
 

dream

Member
I'm so unsure on Raven. He's clearly a talented guy, and whenever there are documentaries people within wrestling seem to rave(n) about him as a brilliant mind.

I don't know if that's true or if it's just the standard thing people say about broken down, drug-addicted conmen, but very early on (I'm talking, like, Observer Live on eYada), Raven made a great point about how wrestling submissions no longer work because UFC had shown everyone exactly how submissions really work. I always liked that.

Of course, nobody listened to him, and we still see people fighting off the kimuralock for a minute.
 

strobogo

Banned
Raven has a great mind for wrasslin and understands it perfectly, but almost never actually applied any of that knowledge to his matches.
 
It's not you guys. It's just the internet. I guess it wouldn't be so bad if NeoGAF just accepted itself for what it is, but it doesn't. The OT goes from outrage to downright perverseness in a flash. Users here like to act like this place is some bastion of intellectual debate, when in reality, most users here are complete idiots, but most of them have never actually been around genuinely intelligent people, so they can't tell the difference.

It's the hypocrisy. One point it's PC all throughout a thread, but perverted during other points. We can't insult one group, but others are open season. The mods deliberate based on their own whims, and it's silly. People here are just weirdos on the internet, desperate for the attention they can't get in real life, but like to act like they're some big shots. Straight up, people are just marks for themselves.

Gaf....is a strange place. It's why I tend to avoid posting in most threads besides a select few. The shit I got banned for a month or so ago was lolworthy compared to some of the shit that gets said in other threads. I knew I was pushing it though and I'd likely get banned, but I tested the waters anyway just to see.
 

Zach

Member
Are there any other good video pod casts like the Old School Wrestling vidcasts? They go through all the hulk era WWF ppvs and they are excellent with reviews, behind the scenes stuff, and various humor and tidbits.

Thanks!

They're the reason I've gotten back into wrestling. Without them, I wouldn't be chronologically critiquing every PPV ever in glorious grapplevision.

The bastards.
 
Of course, nobody listened to him, and we still see people fighting off the kimuralock for a minute.

This bugs the hell out of me - I love the Fujiwara armbar, because it has a very visible defence whereby the victim clasps their hands together to stop the arm being extended, but for the most part no other submissions really tease the actual application of the move. It's just applied and then either the guy taps, or struggles for an age before making it to the ropes.
 

DominoKid

Member
missed last nights Raw and only caught the end of last week's Raw.

i miss anything good?
did Xavier Woods and them do anything?
did Ambrose deliver any fuckery worth watching?
did Layla look good? of course. i've already checked that out.
 
still remember what Mango Sentinel said about Stephanie pedigreeing Hunter into a pool of jizz.

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i think it was Mango.....

Yeah it was me.

My mind is just a fuckshit of nonsense. If I always said everything that was on my mind, I'd be banned in a heartbeat.

One of my biggest fears is living in a future where your thoughts are projected out in front of you and everyone can see them.
I wouldn't last an hour before someone murdered me.
 

strobogo

Banned
This bugs the hell out of me - I love the Fujiwara armbar, because it has a very visible defence whereby the victim clasps their hands together to stop the arm being extended, but for the most part no other submissions really tease the actual application of the move. It's just applied and then either the guy taps, or struggles for an age before making it to the ropes.

You should watch the episode of Hardcore TV where the Malenkos BOTH have a cross arm breaker on Taz for many minutes, probably at least 5. Eventually, Taz shoves them both off, stands up, and starts shoving people around. No issues with his arms whatsoever. After the idea of a Malenko doing any hold is instant death/injury because they are SHOOTERS.

Something like ADR's armbar should never been on for more than 15 seconds when fully applied.
 

dream

Member
This bugs the hell out of me - I love the Fujiwara armbar, because it has a very visible defence whereby the victim clasps their hands together to stop the arm being extended, but for the most part no other submissions really tease the actual application of the move. It's just applied and then either the guy taps, or struggles for an age before making it to the ropes.

And you know, they could do that with every sub. I don't believe that the struggle to apply the move is any less dramatic than the struggle to resist the pain of the fully locked hold. If anything, it would probably be more dramatic if pro wrestling treated submissions as a tap-or-snap scenario, since the struggle to apply the hold would literally be the struggle to win the match right there.
 

Xater

Member
missed last nights Raw and only caught the end of last week's Raw.

i miss anything good?
did Xavier Woods and them do anything?
did Ambrose deliver any fuckery worth watching?
did Layla look good? of course. i've already checked that out.

Watch the Cena/Brock promos, watch the Ambrose and Rollins matches and then maybe watch the end as well.
 
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