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August Wrasslin' |OT 2| All popped everything ft. Injuries too

This discussion reminded me that Bret is severely underrated now

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**30 seconds later**

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cordy

Banned
That's a big reason why I like watching Smackdown more. Actual character development with storylines and opportunities that make sense. They also seem MUCH more focused on making everyone look credible. Heath Slater's still exist but I never thought I'd see Breezdango look like they might actually pull off the upset and believe it was possible because they were wrestling well and looked credible.

WHO FUCKIN' KNEW JOHNNY CURTIS WAS PRETTY GOOD AT WRESTLING?

I definitely didn't know he was that good, Breezango looked like legit contenders on SD and I loved it. Everything has a purpose. I mean Slater went from having that issue with Rhyno to Rhyno not wanting to help him to now Rhyno being his tag partner all over a few weeks. That makes so much sense.
 

Fox318

Member
I've heard this mentioned before, what are the details? Vince is pretty much everythng wrong with the "self made man" concept.

Vince's success really has to do with a few things.

Knowing how to use celebrity to draw attention to an event
  • Donald Trump
  • Mr. T
  • Mike Tyson
  • Pamela Anderson
Working with partners that knew how to make things presentable
  • Dick Ebersol
Hijacking and outspending talent, this will force them to resign and commit to talent and give you an opening to steal talent. Before Starrcade 1 Vince was trying to get Harley Race to double cross to the WWF.
  • AWA
  • NWA/Jim Crockett
  • WCW
  • ECW
  • HHH has built NXT off of the work ROH, PWG, and NJPW/NOAH did.
Making yourself the sole decision maker. Vince cut out the NWA board as well as people who had ownership claim in the WWF like Gorilla Monsoon and get them out of power.

Understand that the people you hire are not only expendable but exploitable. With the exception of a few select people (Pat Paterson, Gorilla Monsoon, Kevin Dunn) Vince doesn't have loyalty to anyone (even his own family (Shane)). The second he thinks he can't make money on a talent he cuts them without hesitation.

Vince is also more concerned with winning and having a monopoly then he is making wrestling popular and more economically viable. Its why he doesn't let talent use their real name even though they are more likely to get over and make the industry stronger. Its why he prevented Starrcade from markets where Wrestlemania was shown. Even though his most important partners (TV/Cable providers) would have made a ton of fucking money.

Vince's father didn't want him involved with wrestling at all and his actions to kill or at the very least watch every wrestling promotion die made it so Vince sr's friends never visited him in his final days.
 

Zach

Member
Bret Hart is amazing. I wasn't a big fan in my youth, but I've come to love him on my chronological journey. Even Cranky Bret that some of you always yell about is a delight.
 

tm24

Member
Is anyone else ready for a main event worse than Orton/Lesnar? Because im sure as hell ready for Pagano vs Psycho Clown
 

Fox318

Member
From a technical perspective the network is trash

Why can't I make playlists?
Watch and follow feuds or shows by date?
Make and share animated images of clips?
See whats trending?
See whats the most viewed all time or just today?
Have a rating system to see what people enjoyed the most or have a system that like Netflix predicts what you would like to see next?
A tagging system that isn't broken or tries to ignore Benoit?
Has some shows that are only censored and not shown in their original?
Hell they could do creative shit like let people have control of the camera.


Network has been out 3 years and all they have added was a watchlist.
 
Vince was hesitant about hiring Gail Kim or "that Asian girl" as he referred to her.

Ross, determined to hire Gail, sweetened the pot by arguing that "lots of people like Asian girls. There are even Asian porn sites."

Vince was completely fucking baffled at this news.

Oh Vince...

JR talked about it on a podcast and his quote was...

“I remember Vince said, ‘You want to hire this Asian girl, right? I don’t know, I just don’t know.’ And I said, ‘Well Vince, you know, there’s a lot of guys that like Asian women. There’s Asian porn sites.’ and Vince responded "NO! get out!"



Come to think of it there hasnt been that many Asian women wrestlers in WWE over the years. Asuka is kind of the first in ages. Maybe since Gail? Maybe I am missing someone?

You're right. After Gail, it's been awhile since an Asian female wrestler has been in the WWE ring.

From a technical perspective the network is trash

Why can't I make playlists?
Watch and follow feuds or shows by date?
Make and share animated images of clips?
See whats trending?
See whats the most viewed all time or just today?
Have a rating system to see what people enjoyed the most or have a system that like Netflix predicts what you would like to see next?
A tagging system that isn't broken or tries to ignore Benoit?
Has some shows that are only censored and not shown in their original?
Hell they could do creative shit like let people have control of the camera.


Network has been out 3 years and all they have added was a watchlist.

WWE doesn't use the word 'feud' anymore; it's a rivalry. But I do agree with you; the Network should have at least implemented something new.
 

Striker

Member
The 6 month feud brewing between Owen and Bret is one of the best things they've done. Actually you can go further than that since they wrestled, again, at SummerSlam '94.

... that dumbass Taker vs. fake Taker angle.
 

Zach

Member
Can I also add that the WWE Network app is trash on the AppleTV?

The best version of the app on a home device is PS4
I use my Xbox One the most because I like the little media remote. It works very well.

Really, it works well on everything I've used -- PS4, PS3, iPhone, Mac at work (how else am I going to watch this crap at such a swift clip? >_>), Amazon Fire Stick TV thing. I'd say the Fire Stick performs slightly below the others, but nothing terrible.

And my home laptop doesn't work well, but that's on my laptop being crappy.
 

Zach

Member
Aside from fuck Hogan it was possibly one of the greatest manias of all time. Easily top 5.

According to the Shoot Super Gradez:

1. WrestleMania VI
2. WrestleMania XIV
3. WrestleMania X
4. WrestleMania XII
5. WrestleMania V
6. WrestleMania III
7. WrestleMania VIII
8. WrestleMania
9. WrestleMania 2
10. WrestleMania 13
11. WrestleMania IV
12. WrestleMania IX
13. WrestleMania VII
14. WrestleMania XI
15. WrestleMania 2000
16. WrestleMania XV

Stop lying, Bluekaveli.
 
Should I be afraid to ask what an ultimate surrender is?


You wouldn't have made it to any episode of Sd tbh.

Well, it's distributed by kink.com. That's probably explanation enough.

Remember when they tried to name the group of Paige, Becky Lynch, and Charlotte the Submission Sorority before they realized that an adult film series already had that name: http://uproxx.com/prowrestling/submission-sorority-porn-wwe/?

It's a similar situation.

I like that explanation better.
 

imBask

Banned
Nakamura's theme in Japan is up there with the greatest IMO, it was the perfect mix of stupid wrestling music and anime ridiculousness
 
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