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[esmith08734]

Last night my buddy texted me who I thought was going to win and on a hunch, I totally changed my stance. I told him Owens would win because someone is going to screw Seth so he can turn face since Balor will be out for months. Man, I wish I posted it here.

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really happened.

 

[Bluekaveli]

Last night my buddy texted me who I thought was going to win and on a hunch, I totally changed my stance. I told him Owens would win because someone is going to screw Seth so he can turn face since Balor will be out for months. Man, I wish I posted it here.

Spoiler

really happened.

Do you want a cookie or something?

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[Sweeney Tom]

Bye Del Rio. No longer advertised for any events even after his suspension's over. 99.9% chance he used that opt out clause

 

[HarryDemeanor]

She's missing the chainmail hood.

 

[Bluekaveli]

Bye Del Rio. No longer advertised for any events even after his suspension's over. 99.9% chance he used that opt out clause

I'm sad because fuck hhh for his bullshit. He should go out with a bang by kicking him right in the quad.

 

[Kaladin]

What great night yesterday.

Ah wrasslin from the nosebleeds, best way to experience WWE Live.

 

[somedevil]

Russo is one of the most creative minds wrestling has ever had. Still has great ideas if you listen to his podcast.

But he has to have a filter, he can't be in control of the book as his lack of patience and logic get the best of him. As a part of a 2-4 man booking team he is extremely capable and valuable. Problem is that WCW and TNA gave him full control and that is not his gifting at all.

Yep he needs a filter. Also, he got to obsessed with the idea the internet is ruining the believe ability in wrestling.

So he created his worse idea on wrestling of this shoot style where only people on internet knew what he was talking about, calling people their real names and saying I am going to go off script for a moment.

That idea done right was the Miz and Bryan segment. Not a match where the wrestlers were talking about not doing the planned finish.

 

[Fox318]

Bye Del Rio. No longer advertised for any events even after his suspension's over. 99.9% chance he used that opt out clause

He must have burnt every bridge in mexico.

I wonder if CMLL would take him.

 

[imBask]

if Punk wins, we should all change our avatar to Max Landis for Sunny

 

[Recall]

Russo is one of the most creative minds wrestling has ever had. Still has great ideas if you listen to his podcast.

But he has to have a filter, he can't be in control of the book as his lack of patience and logic get the best of him. As a part of a 2-4 man booking team he is extremely capable and valuable. Problem is that WCW and TNA gave him full control and that is not his gifting at all.

Honestly list be 5 PPVs in the hundreds there are and say, yep Russo sure made it a worth while or interesting show?

He did well for WWE mid card talent in 98 but it doesn't forgive how much he ruined.

 

[jmdajr]

Ah wrasslin from the nosebleeds, best way to experience WWE Live.

Camera lens makes it seem worse. It doesn't look like that in person. Plus, floor seats are shit, I rather be up there.

It was also 78 bucks for a ticket!

Luckily totally worth it!

 

[FlammableD]

I never noticed that. I was looking at pics from the other promotion she was in and noticed she did it barefooted

Oh, didn't know she didn't wear them before.

 

[Bluekaveli]

Hmmmm, Taz thinks that KO didn't know at all about winning and Hunter told him that he was going over when he was in the ring.

http://radio.com/show/the-taz-show/video-3460140-83016-was-ko-in-the-know-the-taz-show/

 

[Zach]

 

[Kaladin]

Camera lens makes it seem worse. It doesn't look like that in person.

It was also 78 bucks for a ticket!

Luckily totally worth it!

$78 for upper level? That seems high.

 

[Bluekaveli]

Both are full of shit, at least Hogan was a draw.


Here is the full Cornette statement

“Well, first off, it doesn’t matter to me personally because unless Owens is wrestling The Revival sometime soon, I’m not going to see his matches as I don’t watch Raw, but I am thrilled for him and his fans and anyone who enjoys his work in the ring. The one thing I will admit that I was wrong on with both Owens and El Generico/Sami Zayn is that I never thought they would change, but they did and for the better – they just weren’t going to change for what they were being paid by Ring of Honor! [Laughs] I’ve had a lot of people go after me on Twitter today but the reality is that we put the belt on Kevin Steen for a year in Ring of Honor and there was a reason for that. But, he’s won a title I don’t care about on a show I don’t watch, so it doesn’t effect me personally, but I am happy for him, his fans, his family and anyone that wants to see him succeed.”

 

[MG310]

He must have burnt every bridge in mexico.

I wonder if CMLL would take him.

Jose Alberto "El Patron" Rodriguez vs. Phil "CM Punk" Brooks.

 

[sf2fanatic]

I hope never. I can get behind a KO and Trips tag team.

This is where I wish to see Brock more than ever in the ring.

 

[Fox318]

Jose Alberto "El Patron" Rodriguez vs. Phil "CM Punk" Brooks.

you joke but before he signed with WWE the plan was a kickboxing fight between Patron and Goldberg

 

[Apoc87]

I agree.

Was BatB 2000 a work or a shoot?

 

[esmith08734]

Do you want a cookie or something?

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you're asking for it, brother

 

[Bluekaveli]

$78 for upper level? That seems high.

Well they have like 500 different costs for tickets now. Taxes, order online, scan at door, hold seats, your dumbass is getting got he he.

Yeah stupid shit like that.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

I'd pay good attention to Broken El Patron.

 

[UrbanDandy]

.

Gallows and Anderson should be running the tag team division :-(

I love her look, but Dana needs some work on her vocality; she phones it in most of the time.

 

[funkystudent]

So big Dave says Del Rio has been pulled from all future shows.

Also remember that Del Rio had a out clause in his newest contact that's let's him walk.

Anybody care?

I can't even remember what he was doing pre suspension



Edit Oh. Beaten like Cesaro

 

[Zach]

I agree.

Was BatB 2000 a work or a shoot?

I dunno. I'm not quite there yet.

 

[Sephzilla]

Del Rio's gone again? Thank God. Dude seems to be an actually good wrestler but the moment he steps into a WWE ring he sucks.

 

[slightconfuse]

My goodness

 

[MG310]

I can't even remember what he was doing pre suspension

Turning on Sheamus multiple times in a 2 month span and losing Smackdown main events with no purpose.

 

[Striker]

are those stockings

edit: Alberto gone is good, they only hired him to get him away from Lucha and others. He gave no fucks when they showed no interest in giving any proper direction or focus. And he did make good money for basically doing nothing; I envy him.

 

[jmdajr]

$78 for upper level? That seems high.

You think?

 

[jmdajr]

My buddy last night.

"What is up with Dana Brook? I thought they were done hiring women that look like pron stars."

 

[Sephzilla]

$78 for upper level? That seems high.

You think?

Hot damn, yeah you overpaid. Luckily you had a decent show with a great finish.

 

[imBask]

with the billion fees and taxes included, 78 seems kinda normal to me

 

[Kaladin]

Choke on this for a second....

Yeah, Kevin Owens is the champion of WWE's flagship TV show and is holding one of their major titles.

However....this is a title with zero history, zero meaning behind it beyond the present. It's not even a World Heavyweight Championship, it's a Universal Championship because "Ha ha, the universe is bigger than the world!"

A year or two from now the Universal Championship could be the biggest joke this side of the XFL.

Or they could capitalize on the fact that they have Kevin Owens on top of a great main event scene on Raw and make the belt mean something.

WWE just has a bad history with follow ups and making belts mean something.

I'm curious about where they go with the belt on Raw, but I'm cautiously optimistic.

 

[Bluekaveli]

with the billion fees and taxes included, 78 seems kinda normal to me

I said that! Fucking theft!

 

[Fox318]

somebody wil have to explain to me what the thinking is in ROH of having a PPV before 2 days of WWE wrestling and a major UFC PPV.

They could have had something this weekend.

 

[imBask]

I said that! Fucking theft!

I invented that statement

 

[BFIB]

Choke on this for a second....

Yeah, Kevin Owens is the champion of WWE's flagship TV show and is holding one of their major titles.

However....this is a title with zero history, zero meaning behind it beyond the present. It's not even a World Heavyweight Championship, it's a Universal Championship because "Ha ha, the universe is bigger than the world!"

A year or two from now the Universal Championship could be the biggest joke this side of the XFL.

Or they could capitalize on the fact that they have Kevin Owens on top of a great main event scene on Raw and make the belt mean something.

WWE just has a bad history with follow ups and making belts mean something.

I'm curious about where they go with the belt on Raw, but I'm cautiously optimistic.

He better carry it to WM.

 

[Sephzilla]

Choke on this for a second....

Yeah, Kevin Owens is the champion of WWE's flagship TV show and is holding one of their major titles.

However....this is a title with zero history, zero meaning behind it beyond the present. It's not even a World Heavyweight Championship, it's a Universal Championship because "Ha ha, the universe is bigger than the world!"

A year or two from now the Universal Championship could be the biggest joke this side of the XFL.

Or they could capitalize on the fact that they have Kevin Owens on top of a great main event scene on Raw and make the belt mean something.

WWE just has a bad history with follow ups and making belts mean something.

I'm curious about where they go with the belt on Raw, but I'm cautiously optimistic.

Owens winning a World Title with zero history does take away from it a little bit. This is why he needs an extended reign and needs to beat a couple of credible opponents during it. If he gets Seth Rollins booking the Universal Title will be a dead weight title.

 

[jmdajr]

with the billion fees and taxes included, 78 seems kinda normal to me

It was 65 bucks plus rape fees. I even bought it the box office thinking I would catch a break...

NOPE.

 

[orioto]

Choke on this for a second....

Yeah, Kevin Owens is the champion of WWE's flagship TV show and is holding one of their major titles.

However....this is a title with zero history, zero meaning behind it beyond the present. It's not even a World Heavyweight Championship, it's a Universal Championship because "Ha ha, the universe is bigger than the world!"

A year or two from now the Universal Championship could be the biggest joke this side of the XFL.

Or they could capitalize on the fact that they have Kevin Owens on top of a great main event scene on Raw and make the belt mean something.

WWE just has a bad history with follow ups and making belts mean something.

I'm curious about where they go with the belt on Raw, but I'm cautiously optimistic.

I'm not that much worried about all those things, and the tripleH story etc...

I'll be really pissed if this is a case of "once he has the belt as a heel, he wrestles like a piece of shit". Like, he doesn't do half of what he did before and use heel tactics all the time.

I really hope not, but what worries me is that he's already been more on the cheap heel side since he was with Jericho. he needed interference to beat Neville, then interference to win the belt.. So they may going for the whole "KO is really super weak and lame in the ring" thing... i damn hope not!

Of course they would do that to stop Owens from being over, if they want a real 100% heel, which is the worst thing they do honestly. Taking what's awesome in their product and killing it to have heat..

 

[imBask]

It was 65 bucks plus rape fees. I even bought it the box office thinking I would catch a break...

NOPE.

the "print it yourself" fee is still my favorite

 

[Heroman]

Choke on this for a second....

Yeah, Kevin Owens is the champion of WWE's flagship TV show and is holding one of their major titles.

However....this is a title with zero history, zero meaning behind it beyond the present. It's not even a World Heavyweight Championship, it's a Universal Championship because "Ha ha, the universe is bigger than the world!"

A year or two from now the Universal Championship could be the biggest joke this side of the XFL.

Or they could capitalize on the fact that they have Kevin Owens on top of a great main event scene on Raw and make the belt mean something.

WWE just has a bad history with follow ups and making belts mean something.

I'm curious about where they go with the belt on Raw, but I'm cautiously optimistic.

It all depend on can they book KO as strong heel champ and give great opponents. Hopely HHH role on this will be very litte.

 

[Nocturnowl]

THE DEMON KING KANE

Na that fuckboi is for AJ. Vince told Kane he is going to squash that twirp

Why not both? Brand uniter Kane has a good ring to it.
Of course it would also be nice to see him back on tv as well.

Eat shit, Landis. I'll be gone soon anyway, let me have this moment.

???

Bye Del Rio. No longer advertised for any events even after his suspension's over. 99.9% chance he used that opt out clause

And thus another uneventful ADR run comes to an end, his WWE legacy is truly that of a turd repeatedly being thrown at a wall and failing to stick.

 

[esmith08734]

Choke on this for a second....

Yeah, Kevin Owens is the champion of WWE's flagship TV show and is holding one of their major titles.

However....this is a title with zero history, zero meaning behind it beyond the present. It's not even a World Heavyweight Championship, it's a Universal Championship because "Ha ha, the universe is bigger than the world!"

A year or two from now the Universal Championship could be the biggest joke this side of the XFL.

Or they could capitalize on the fact that they have Kevin Owens on top of a great main event scene on Raw and make the belt mean something.

WWE just has a bad history with follow ups and making belts mean something.

I'm curious about where they go with the belt on Raw, but I'm cautiously optimistic.

I feel where you're coming from. The belt doesn't really carry weight right now. The WWE title is still the main title to me and a title that will never fade away. I think HHH has a lot of pull now. Owens is one of his guys and he's the top heel now so I think he's a top fixture right now and will have a long reign. I am afraid that he got over too much himself and WWE usually fucks over the guys who get over on their own more so than the bookings.

 

[Toki767]

I'm kind of hoping that the Universal title being red means that it will actually stay on Raw and that they won't just end up switching the main brand titles next year.

 

[sf2fanatic]

It was 65 bucks plus rape fees. I even bought it the box office thinking I would catch a break...

NOPE.

That guy in your avatar con you.

 

[Kaladin]

Owens winning a World Title with zero history does take away from it a little bit. This is why he needs an extended reign and needs to beat a couple of credible opponents during it. If he gets Seth Rollins booking the Universal Title will be a dead weight title.

Pretty much. They need to make Owens the star and give him the ball. The guy can certainly take it and run. I have a feeling Owens will make the most of what they give him and if that is the case, we're in for a wild run the next few months.

 

[jmdajr]

Can we be happy for Owens until at least next Monday?