Dr Duncan Steel
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August Wrasslin' |OT 2| All popped everything ft. Injuries too
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blackaroni
Member
You ruin everything!
Dr Duncan Steel
Member
It's for the best tbh
British Monsoon
Member
He's got the edge on Gallagher in terms of experience, Jack only really broke out on the UK scene in the past couple of years - he had been around for a while (under different names, Jack Toxic, Jack Anthony, etc), but everything only started to really click for him fairly recently. Comparatively, ZSJ's been one of the top names in British wrestling for about 8 years now and has been working in Europe and Japan for just as long.
I was honestly surprised when they put Gallagher in the tournament, as his style shares a lot in common with Zack's but is seemingly more accessible to a lot of fans. However, as good as Gallagher is, I'd personally put more trust in Zack having a great match with a new opponent than Gallagher. Zack's resume over the past few years is stacked with some fantastic matches against a wide variety of opponents, and while Jack's been in a number of my personal MOTYC's, they've mostly been against guys well versed in the classic British wrestling style.
FlammableD
Banned
Honest answer, as a Brit who prefers Zack? (Though that gap is closing of late)
4 years in NOAH. Most successful Brit abroad, as Devitt doesn't count.
Discotheque
Banned
Yeah I watched my first smackdown live/talking smack this week and while I don't like the roster nearly as much as RAW (aside from aj/miz) the show went by like a breeze.
Holy shit the difference between it and RAW was night and day. I was actually enjoying myself. Fuck man I wish the writer (and mauro) were on RAW. I just vastly prefer that roster but smackdown is clearly the superior show.
Holy shit the difference between it and RAW was night and day. I was actually enjoying myself. Fuck man I wish the writer (and mauro) were on RAW. I just vastly prefer that roster but smackdown is clearly the superior show.
Officerrob
Banned
That's being very generous
The two hours for Smackdown is its saving grace - it allows them to run a few show long angles without it becoming tired and overdone within the body of the show itself, which is more or less impossible with Raw. Slater was in the Rollins spot from summer last year - focus of many segments on the show, big part in the opening, middle and close of the show.
Except with the virtue of it being two hours, he didn't have to wrestle, each segment had a brevity and drive to it plus feature a bunch of other talents in a logical way.
Actually, an even better example is that of Bray Wyatt - arguably a talent who has been most damaged by three hour Raws, trotted out on a regular basis to do rambling 20 minute promos, sometimes building feuds completely on his own, just because he could technically do them without it being a total disaster. Plus, he would also have to wrestle on TV (although they didn't put him out there as much as other main eventers). Post brand split, Wyatt has wrestled 3 times on TV, twice in very important matches, first the 6-Pack challenge and secondly for a no.1 contender spot.
Now Bray is being written to speak directly to his opponent, setting up feuds that everyone can appreciate, in tight segments that still leverage his talents all while slowly building up a special aura of someone important whose matches and feuds are all special due to whom they are with, how they are put together and how little he wrestles as a singles guy.
Except with the virtue of it being two hours, he didn't have to wrestle, each segment had a brevity and drive to it plus feature a bunch of other talents in a logical way.
Actually, an even better example is that of Bray Wyatt - arguably a talent who has been most damaged by three hour Raws, trotted out on a regular basis to do rambling 20 minute promos, sometimes building feuds completely on his own, just because he could technically do them without it being a total disaster. Plus, he would also have to wrestle on TV (although they didn't put him out there as much as other main eventers). Post brand split, Wyatt has wrestled 3 times on TV, twice in very important matches, first the 6-Pack challenge and secondly for a no.1 contender spot.
Now Bray is being written to speak directly to his opponent, setting up feuds that everyone can appreciate, in tight segments that still leverage his talents all while slowly building up a special aura of someone important whose matches and feuds are all special due to whom they are with, how they are put together and how little he wrestles as a singles guy.
Hm so RAW will be interesting...
But guys now that it leaked, the triple threat thing, Vince will say "It's not a surprise anymore if Owens wins, let's push CASS!!"
Also about the Balor feud, my only complaint is that Owens would have probably never won anything.. he would have been a cheap heel contender to make Balor look strong.. Except if Balor had shitty reactions (which again, they never had the time to test on a big audience).
Also i've always thought that Jericho run was different than usual. In the past he came back some weeks to enhance some fresh talent. This time he won a lot, stayed some months and his character is super over. They can indeed give him something.
That said Owens has never been so close.. I still think there is a slight problem with his character being more on the "funny heel who talks loud and lose" side than the "fierce fighter" one it was when he debuted. i'm not sure how a Champ Owens would work right now. I mean i'm sure it would work, but i'm not sure how.
But guys now that it leaked, the triple threat thing, Vince will say "It's not a surprise anymore if Owens wins, let's push CASS!!"
Also about the Balor feud, my only complaint is that Owens would have probably never won anything.. he would have been a cheap heel contender to make Balor look strong.. Except if Balor had shitty reactions (which again, they never had the time to test on a big audience).
Also i've always thought that Jericho run was different than usual. In the past he came back some weeks to enhance some fresh talent. This time he won a lot, stayed some months and his character is super over. They can indeed give him something.
That said Owens has never been so close.. I still think there is a slight problem with his character being more on the "funny heel who talks loud and lose" side than the "fierce fighter" one it was when he debuted. i'm not sure how a Champ Owens would work right now. I mean i'm sure it would work, but i'm not sure how.
half a moon
Banned
Ive enjoyed may early june raws. The tag team division is done really well.
themadcowtipper
Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
Watching the CWC, and it has come to my attention that Daniel Bryan is garbage level on commentary.
If it wasn't for Mauro,I would mute the Tv.
The way he oversells everything is painful after a few minutes.
If it wasn't for Mauro,I would mute the Tv.
The way he oversells everything is painful after a few minutes.
Say YEAH!
YEAH!
funkystudent
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How if the final of the CWC going to be handled?
RAW? Network special? Next NXT Takeover? Pre taped like the rest?
RAW? Network special? Next NXT Takeover? Pre taped like the rest?
ramoisdead
Member
I figure if AJ is going to win the title at Backlash (and he should since Ambrose lost a LOT of steam), creative would maybe have to form more Club members just to keep up with AJ's heat since I'm betting alone will cause more people to cheer him than boo.
2 hour live Network special on the 14th Sep.
They've not announced the format, but I'm guessing that the next 2 weeks will just have 2 quarter finals each, then the final will have both the semis and the final in one night.
Then the division debuts on Raw on the 19th.
Empyrean Heaven
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Meltzer giving love to our boy British Bootaay Monsoon!
From the latest WOR:
From the latest WOR:
slightconfuse
Banned
Started reading the book sex, lies and Headlocks. Its about Vince's rise to power.
Pretty good so far
Pretty good so far
Ooof, I think Gargano overshot that apron dive. Basically headbutted Perkins and landed his legs on that table.
EDIT: If it wasn't part of the story, it added to it with his knee and everything. Another fantastic match,
Think that episode is the best overall episode of CWC with just 3 great matches, even if none of them are THE best. Really enjoyed it.
EDIT: If it wasn't part of the story, it added to it with his knee and everything. Another fantastic match,
Think that episode is the best overall episode of CWC with just 3 great matches, even if none of them are THE best. Really enjoyed it.
Love the drawings
JehutyRunner
Banned
Would rather have Daniel Bryan than that charisma of nothingness that is David Otunga. Even JBL - who at the first opportunity if I could if I was in charge of WWE would jettison from the company at a moment's notice - is even bearable. Most of the time, no, but every now and then, he finds something that I can go, 'alright, that's a good commentary call'.
Even Saxton, fucking Byron Saxton, is better than Otunga. Ugh.
wild wild rice
Member
Hold up, people like Mauro!? Dude is insufferable.
I have no comment on D Bry, haven't watched enough CWC, but he seemed OK in the few matches I have seen.
slightconfuse
Banned
Andre loved da Meltz.
Marvel
could never
Christ lol
I know atleast 10 people who only watched NJPW this year because of seeing his twitter and then looking into the product.
slightconfuse
Banned
Meltz talking about his HOF experience was great
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Deleted member 47027
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He did safely graze him, and made it happen.
I mean, he wasn't unconscious. On a scale of Safe to Rollins he at least RVD'd him.
but no, seriously, grazes don't take staples.
slightconfuse
Banned
Next ROH PPV headlines by
Cole VS. BIG MIKE
Lethal VS. Naito
Cole VS. BIG MIKE
Lethal VS. Naito
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Deleted member 47027
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Nooooooooo please stay
Corbin wasn't really showing much more progress and he'd been in the system for ages. Totally agreed on Crews though.
wild wild rice
Member
Can't stand the lot of em. Corey Graves and the King I can tolerate. I honestly don't really listen to the announcers much. Didn't even realize it until my wife would ask about things they said and I had them completely tuned out without noticing. Just bland, artificial commentary.
I think it's Mauro's constipated voice that bothers me. He makes me feel like I'm choking.
slightconfuse
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Bluekaveli
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The only person I could see Corbin having a decent feud with would be Orton, maybe Cena too. But the guy is just.....
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Deleted member 47027
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It's just blood, you weaklings. Now if lil Randall got a concussion, now we're talking.
Jeez. It's like none of you have ever suffered a comparable wound.
Jeez. It's like none of you have ever suffered a comparable wound.
It was a fucking stupid idea. I mean the concept of a TKO finish with Brock is cool but the way they went about it, dumb as fuck.