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August Wrasslin |OT| I'll tout it to the papers if I have to
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FCW, NXT, House Shows, international tours, random Superstars, etc?
Alica Fox is never good. The only good part about her wrestling is that she hasn't managed to injure more often than she should with her level of ability to mess up.
bean breath
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One of the new NXT signings Memo Montenegro, is the younger brother of Alberto Del Rio;
Lol.
Dammit Bootaaay, I don't know what kind of British sorcery you pulled when you posted that image but it bypassed my mobile gaf 'no imgs' setting while I was reading this thread on my phone in a public place.
Damn you Bootaaay, damn you straight to heck.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
But she botches a Stinkface of all things... Not even Sin Cara could botch that.
You're not Professor Beef, who are you?
Ziggler botched a fame asser.
Ziggler has credits though. Besides, nobody thinks Ziggler is the best wrestler either. He bumps like a champ, his personality is getting there and his matches are enjoyable, but he's not the best technician by any stretch of the imagination.
TOM f'N CRUISE
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Well, Trish probably is one of the most overrated wrestlers of all time, so I guess that makes sense. Though, yeah, she's obviously better than Kelly, Rosa, etc. Lita wasn't great, but she had a Mick Foley type thing where you wanted to give her credit for trying shit that she didn't HAVE to do.
spindashing
Banned
Ugh, wait they released Alicia's sister?
Sure, she sucked in the ring but she was hot.
Sure, she sucked in the ring but she was hot.
Ugh, wait they released Alicia's sister?
Sure, she sucked in the ring but she was hot.
She probably didn't suck outside of the ring, which is the problem for Hayes.
People were making fun of his botches in the Cena match last summer
Are you talking about here or in general? People talk shit about Punk here all the time.
There's some who critique his bland as fuck face character, and promo work for the past year, but they don't knock his ring work, which itself has been mildly entertaining and often filled with screwups. And it's not generally high spots they mess up in - how often does he screwup the GTS.
The best match of 2011!
his wrestling is getting boring. he seems to get gassed too soon.
Punk only has good matches with Bryan.
We saw Layla, Kaitlin, Eve, and Beth Phoenix on Raw. I saw Kelly Kelly vs Natalya from the recent tour. We've seen Tamina and others on Superstars and FCW. House shows have Layla and Beth Phoenix usually, sometimes someone else. I judge them based on what I see just as I do for any of the men in the main roster.
Beth and Tamina do well in matches, Natalya was better than half the guys for the Taiwan show. I know they are good wrestlers because I've seen it.
I know Alica Fox is a bad wrestler because every time she wrestled it was awful looking to me and the injuries she gave others. I just don't like Kelly Kelly.
I don't judge Aksana or Rosa because I can't recall the last time I've seen either of them wrestle and thus don't know their current capacity.
Ugh, now I really don't like him.I hate when people just drop them in the gym.
His ring work has been very good. His matches with Jericho and Daniel Bryan have been great. I'm sorry if you can't see that. His first match with Daniel Bryan was getting this is awesome chants. He also gotten good matches from Big Show and Kane.
His match with Cena was match of a year because a match is more than how it flows and if there is any botches. The story and crowd plays a big part and that was perfect and deserves match of the year. People bitch about the Cena and Brock match but thats going to get Match of Year votes as well.
You only think that because every other match is like 2-4 minutes long. So you're not use to seeing someone breathing hard in a 15-20 minute match
Christopher
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The thing is Trish got put in hot fueds and actually gave the womens division credibility. During the era of Trish Jazz Lita Molly Victoria Gail and Ivory there were some good matches.
slightconfuse
Banned
shame they got rid of sofia cortez. but rawuel diaz(eddie's guerro's daughter) is still there so tats good. WWE has alot of good women talent coming in and on the roster they choose not to use it for some reason. Watch NXT and Superstars for them.
People talk about how shitty the GTS looks, how bad his elbow drop is, his technique is sloppy, etc. I see it fairly often. What do you want? More gifs? Do you need someone to remind you he was supposed to reverse an AA and land on his feet during the MITB match but he actually landed flat on his ass and had to no sell it?
I think his matches are great, and I enjoy them more than pretty much anyone else's on the active roster right now. His match with Del Rio was my favorite match of 2011. I think he could be the best thing going in WWE right now if they let him off the leash a little bit. But I don't claim that he's perfect, or that he's the best technical wrestler they have, or the best at cutting promos. And I don't think any of his fans in this thread would. I certainly don't see him being built up in this thread as the undisputed god of wrestling. In fact, I think the only member of Punk Defense Force I've seen is Aiii. I usually just keep my opinion to myself. I'm not sure where the idea where he's not critiqued is coming from.
i dont watch Raw. I watch Smackdown.
TOM f'N CRUISE
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Punk's elbow drop is horrendous
It's an elbow drop. Not sure what more you really want him to do.
I'm not going to disagree he's a good wrestler. He's one of the handful or so of guys who can make others look good, or just not put people to sleep. People knock Del Rio, Sheamus, and Cody for whatever character related reason, but they're good workers as well, even if they're not necessarily on the level of Punk or Bryan in being technicians. Doesn't change he has had his fair amount of dull, boring feuds and matches. The Jericho feud was awful. It's not disputable. I truthfully don't remember much at all from it, outside the drunk family part.
The Bryan stuff was fine match wise, notably when it was simply he and Bryan. And why not, they've wrestled a hundred times in their life I imagine. Then they added in Kane, AJ, and it just was garbage. He became Cena-lite because he always won, had bad booking finishes and just made most of what they had not entertaining for me.
His whole reign since coming back last August has been nothing memorable to me. I'm sorry if you can't see that.
It's not near the amount of hate we see on other guys, fault or not. And I also tend to keep my opinion to myself in these threads. You're not the only one.
See that's the thing with CM Punk, it's always the same things we complain about. He doesn't do a proper elbow, his GTS is rubbish, so on and so forth for his special moves and finishing moves. His regular moves though? All great.
He gives good to great matches constantly, he can work with most everyone, and it's never an issue until he has to do a spot. It's almost a shame he can't or won't go back to a simple style like Bob Backlund or Bryan's Small Package out of nowhere or even Chris Master's rather simple and old style winning move. Hell a return to a Jake the Snake Robert's DDT being deadly again would be something.
Story wise that's a different issue and aye, they really should do better with him and I think they are if they don't rush or drop or randomly change the current slow pacing of Punk's problems and trying to fix it met with dismissal.
This, I want him to do this. http://youtu.be/ICDG24NkYyc
Never once do I wince or cringe or just feel sorry for Macho Man like I do Punk's elbow drops.
I no more believe that than any of the rumours. We're never going to know why she was fired, so I say we should just say it's because of Dean Ambrose. His kidnapped her and stole her Power Coin until she couldn't wrestle on FCW/NXT any more.
He gives good to great matches constantly, he can work with most everyone, and it's never an issue until he has to do a spot. It's almost a shame he can't or won't go back to a simple style like Bob Backlund or Bryan's Small Package out of nowhere or even Chris Master's rather simple and old style winning move. Hell a return to a Jake the Snake Robert's DDT being deadly again would be something.
Story wise that's a different issue and aye, they really should do better with him and I think they are if they don't rush or drop or randomly change the current slow pacing of Punk's problems and trying to fix it met with dismissal.
This, I want him to do this. http://youtu.be/ICDG24NkYyc
Never once do I wince or cringe or just feel sorry for Macho Man like I do Punk's elbow drops.
I no more believe that than any of the rumours. We're never going to know why she was fired, so I say we should just say it's because of Dean Ambrose. His kidnapped her and stole her Power Coin until she couldn't wrestle on FCW/NXT any more.
Still not as bad as Cena's high knee/bulldog.
You want him to turn into Macho Man? He's not Macho Man, he's CM Punk.
What next? You want him to change his finisher to the Straight Edge Stunner?
Odd that Sofia Cortez is gone, she was a decent wrestler and had a good following in Puerto Rico. Seemed like a logical fit for the WWE.
Cena's Punk moveset was really shitty, but nothing is as shitty as Punk's elbow drop.
Even Big Shit did a better elbow drop this year.
He's doing a tribute for Savage, and it looks awful. That's it. The end.
Well she's denying it on twitter and simultaneously thanking WWE for the opportunities so yeah... Hayes must not be getting it these days.
Punk is not a technical wrestler though. Del Rio is one of WWEs only technical wrestlers along with Bryan and Swagger.
Why does Punk even do it? He's gotta know it looks terrible.
She's more ready for the main roster than Kelly Kelly ever has been.
He's not Bret or Angle, but he's closer to others. Submission specialist would be something of another label, but even then he doesn't consistently have guys tapping out. Bryan is more of that than he is, but he's more than a simple submission guy.
Well somebody who worked with her in FCW and in the chicago scene said that she did have attitude problems and hard to deal with. So we will never know the true story though.
TOM f'N CRUISE
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Randy Savages elbow drop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN7AuqCODH8
hes been doing it sloppier and sloppier evertime he does it.. hes done it good before but
lol yeah
Jeff Albertson
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This is why.
At first glance I thought Linda was in a ghostbusters costume here
As for Fox's sister, if that was her on NXT in a tag match recently she was awful but what do I know I thought Big E Langston was pretty awesome in his match but the consensus seems to be he's terrible
I would love to be consulted as a talent/creative "auditor" for the WWE. I would have a big book with everyone on the roster, and what their storylines and future plans for them are. Then I'd just go down the list and say "Ezekiel Jackson. Why did you hire this person? What are they doing now? Why are they doing what they're doing? What are you trying to do to fix it?" This isn't really a thing where I'd be trying to fix everything. I would just want to hear the explanations.