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[somedevil]

Well this video seems to confirm its going to be Itami vs Black:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlnZolMCwD4

Why is Itami back so sweaty in this?

 

[giancarlo123x]

Wow Itami sold that kick beautifully.

 

[Rhaknar]

torn on Black vs Itami, on one hand, should be great, on the other, Black is undefeated and they probably want to keep him that way so it's most likely another Itami job.

 

[sf2fanatic]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 watching death racers.

 

[Data West]

Just a couple of months ago folks were saying Joe was boring because of his shitty feuds/matches with Rollins and Balor. I wonder if they changed their mind now.

I've never called Joe since he turned heel in NXT

he carried the entire Balor feud. He's one of the best promos in the WWE right now, maybe even the best.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

Well this video seems to confirm its going to be Itami vs Black:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlnZolMCwD4

Why is Itami back so sweaty in this?

Here I thought we were getting Ohno vs Itami for Takeover.

Is Ohno ever going to do anything in NXT?

 

[gun_haver]

it would be funny if shane turned heel during the ko vs aj match at summerslam and started coming out to no chance again. i know wwe is averse to doing stories and swerves now but i'd like it.

 

[serenewarfare]

Here I thought we were getting Ohno vs Itami for Takeover.

Is Ohno ever going to do anything in NXT?

I wouldn't be surprised if he's called up after SS.

 

[Anth0ny]

I feel like there is a tier system to wrestling and the top guys in the world can carry almost anyone to a great match. Based on what your saying Elgin seems like a solid 2nd tier guy that can carry the companies number 2 or 3 belt. I can't wait to see Elgin vs Suzuki where as before I didn't care about elgin at all.

Exactly. Omega and Okada are the two gods right now.

Tanahashi, Naito, Suzuki, Ishii and Ibushi are right up there too (Shibata was there too ; _ ; ). Any of those 7 can take a "tier 2" guy and make them look like a million bucks pretty much every time. Then you have the truly great, 4.5* and above matches when you combine any of those 7 together.

The consistency of work in New Japan in unreal right now.

 

[sf2fanatic]

Found old footage of Zach taking on Brooklyn Brawler.

https://youtu.be/8RyXp_7abZk

Spoiler

lol the ref

 

[RBH]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Jvcf1z83g8

 

[Caspel]

O'Reilly's match with Black was great. Looking forward to seeing more of O'Reilly in NXT

 

[Data West]

I watched Raiders of the Last Ark for the first time

It's trash. Indiana no sells that bullet wound for like 6 minutes straight

 

[Brian_FETO]

I watched Raiders of the Last Ark for the first time

It's trash. Indiana no sells that bullet wound for like 6 minutes straight

Dude

What

No

 

[Anth0ny]

I watched Raiders of the Last Ark for the first time

It's trash. Indiana no sells that bullet wound for like 6 minutes straight

But Data, the movie teaches you exactly what to do when a flippy jabroni mark tries to get his shit in

YOU FUCKING SHOOT

 

[sf2fanatic]

But Data, the movie teaches you exactly what to do when a flippy jabroni mark tries to get his shit in

YOU FUCKING SHOOT

I laugh at that part all the time.

Fuck flips

 

[serenewarfare]

But Data, the movie teaches you exactly what to do when a flippy jabroni mark tries to get his shit in

YOU FUCKING SHOOT

One of my favorite movies scenes of all-time considering the context of why it exists.

 

[Hex]

it would be funny if shane turned heel during the ko vs aj match at summerslam and started coming out to no chance again. i know wwe is averse to doing stories and swerves now but i'd like it.

Wouldn't be bad, a McMahon is a McMahon.
But unless Bryan could get in the ring with him I do not think it would work.

 

[Data West]

But Data, the movie teaches you exactly what to do when a flippy jabroni mark tries to get his shit in

YOU FUCKING SHOOT

the truck chase scene where he climbs under the truck with a bullet wound in his arm

 

[DMczaf]

But Data, the movie teaches you exactly what to do when a flippy jabroni mark tries to get his shit in

YOU FUCKING SHOOT

And this scene becomes more crystal clear when you put it in that context:

Here is Indy doing Indy Flippy Shit in Temple of Doom, which is set BEFORE Raiders, and getting no-sold by the grizzled vet.

Indy entered the Realm of the Shoot that day.

 

[sf2fanatic]

And this scene becomes more crystal clear when you put it in that context:

Here is Indy doing Indy Flippy Shit in Temple of Doom, which is set BEFORE Raiders, and getting no-sold by the grizzled vet.

Indy entered the Realm of the Shoot that day.

Gif proves to us Mysterio beating Batista was a joke. Guy too stronk for Indy the cruiser weight's drop kick

 

[Fox318]

And this scene becomes more crystal clear when you put it in that context:

Here is Indy doing Indy Flippy Shit in Temple of Doom, which is set BEFORE Raiders, and getting no-sold by the grizzled vet.

Indy entered the Realm of the Shoot that day.

Had Indy went for a single leg he most certainly would have won.

 

[Data West]

It was pretty good though. Definitely don't see why people are crazy about it like BTTF or Ghostbusters but very good. I might have liked it more as a kid.

now Die Hard. That's a shooter's movie.

 

[sf2fanatic]

It was pretty good though. Definitely don't see why people are crazy about it like BTTF or Ghostbusters but very good. I might have liked it more as a kid.

now Die Hard. That's a shooter's movie.

I watched that movie a day ago. I lol'd at the 77 cent gas in 1988. Wtf where's this now?

 

[Toki767]

It's so weird that after months of Black basically squashing the NXT roster, they bring in Fish and O'Reilly to give him his most competitive matches yet.

It's so un-WWE like.

 

[FallingEdge]

the truck chase scene where he climbs under the truck with a bullet wound in his arm

fuck the marks

i loved that spot

and i love Davey Richards

 

[SomewhatGroovy]

the truck chase scene where he climbs under the truck with a bullet wound in his arm

It's a serial movie akin to the flash Gordon's and the phantom from the 1940s. They're live action cartoons.

 

[serenewarfare]

It's so weird that after months of Black basically squashing the NXT roster, they bring in Fish and O'Reilly to give him his most competitive matches yet.

It's so un-WWE like.

Everything in WWE not managed by Vince is on some weird shit right now between the MYC and the Progress/ICW stuff and NXT.

WWE is so close to being great.

 

[sf2fanatic]

I'm shocked no one posted any wrasslin shirts in that t-shirt is ok thread.

 

[Ronin Ray]

Elign is a top teir worker, you don't have matches that good if you aren't top teir.

I don't disagree but top tier for me is like only 4 or 5 guys that can have great matches with anyone in most situations and have great match variety. They can carry others to high quality matches and they're very consistent. Okada ,Omega, naito, styles etc. Like there elite or franchise players and they're very rare. I think it's crazy that New Japan has like three or four of these guys right now and there firing on all cylinders. I haven't seen alot of the guy but I think ibushi can definitely be one of those guys.

 

[Hex]

I'm shocked no one posted any wrasslin shirts in that t-shirt is ok thread.

Thought that thread was rather transparent, so figured it best to stay out

 

[oddjobs]

From what I remember, they've not formally signed yet.

They had HHH post a pic of him "officially" welcoming a formally dressed Fish to NXT so I think the deals are done.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Fish / O'Reilly lay low for a couple of months and then re-debut as a team with new names.

 

[Bronx-Man]

I never thought "satanist babyface" would be allowed in pg Mattel-appeasing WWE times, much less get over. But hot damn, Aleister's got 'star' written all over him.

Nothing positive is ever going to happen until it happens.

This is always the best way to watch WWE. Expect the worst, hope for the best.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

I never thought "satanist babyface" would be allowed in pg Mattel-appeasing WWE times, much less get over. But hot damn, Aleister's got 'star' written all over him.



This is always the best way to watch WWE. Expect the worst, hope for the best.

Replace the best with mediocre.

 

[Rhaknar]

This is always the best way to watch WWE. Expect the worst, hope for the best.

forget WWE, that's my motto for everything in life

 

[sf2fanatic]

Thought that thread was rather transparent, so figured it best to stay out

Agree. Don't need no more casualties.

 

[Angry Grimace]

They're the same people who said Ambrose was never going to be a WWE Champion.

Me? I think it'll be Strowman or Joe. If it's Strowman he'll hold the belt until the Rumble where he'll lose to Cena or Reigns and then that'll set up their WM match. If it's Joe? Same thing except Strowman will face Reigns in a ppv before then.

Reigns needs heels and Joe has a "Reigns never beat me" storyline built in.

 

[Angry Grimace]

When does the "Nak is gonna go all out in his next match" talk begin again? Is now too soon after his latest disappointing match?

Nak even at full speed isn't carrying Jinder to anything worthwhile.

There is literally nothing worthwhile about the match other than Nakamura going over for a pop.

Also has Alistair Black ever said a word on camera?

 

[cordy]

Reigns needs heels and Joe has a "Reigns never beat me" storyline built in.

Yeah it makes sense if it was Joe honestly especially given his build lately. It's great that he and Strowman both have taken over these past few months.

 

[Rhaknar]

I fully expect Joe to win and have the usual indy darling 3 month nothing run as champion, until its Wrestlemania season and they put the belt back on someone that matters (to them of course).

Same for Nakamura in fact, except with the Corbin cash in possibility, Corbin will probably get the belt with the cahs in and then drop it back to Nak in one or two PPVs (because thats what we need, more Corbin v Nak matches)

 

[Angry Grimace]

The thing about Black is that I have no idea what direction they're planning for him because it's either "wins the title immediately" or "gets called up."

I mean, he's obviously the star of the brand at this point. Given how devoid they are of guys who come off as big stars, they probably need to keep him around for a while.

 

[Tall4Life]

I dont see how Black could fit into a good spot on the main roster without getting ruined, honestly. He has kind of a Jimmy Havoc appeal, and Havoc isnt someone thats effective as just another guy as a part of a 50 man roster

 

[half a moon]

Paul said Brock was going to leave wwe if he loses tho. Did he shorten his contract that much?

 

[The Strokes]

I fully expect Joe to win and have the usual indy darling 3 month nothing run as champion, until its Wrestlemania season and they put the belt back on someone that matters (to them of course).

Same for Nakamura in fact, except with the Corbin cash in possibility, Corbin will probably get the belt with the cahs in and then drop it back to Nak in one or two PPVs (because thats what we need, more Corbin v Nak matches)

Disagree on the Nakamura bit, I sincerely think he's either wwe champ by the time Mania comes around or he's wrestling for the belt. Nakamura is not viewed as an indie darling.

Unless they somehow manage to fuck him up in the next months, that is.

 

[serenewarfare]

Catching up on G1. Man, Tanahashi/Ibushi was incredible.

I remember when I had to pay $120 to watch the G1 on Ustream. I felt then like I was getting my money's worth.

Now we get all this for $20. Feels like stealing.

 

[Angry Grimace]

I dont see how Black could fit into a good spot on the main roster without getting ruined, honestly. He has kind of a Jimmy Havoc appeal, and Havoc isnt someone thats effective as just another guy as a part of a 50 man roster

I mean, he speaks un-accented perfect English and is over 6 feet tall with a goofy gimmick. Sounds like Vince-bait to me. If he put on 20 pounds of muscle he'd already be on the main roster imo.

I mean, Black hasn't said a single word, so they probably need to get him to cut some actual promos before he's ready for anything close to that. I have no idea if he can actually cut a promo.

 

[Tall4Life]

I mean, he speaks un-accented perfect English and is over 6 feet tall with a goofy gimmick. Sounds like Vince-bait to me. If he put on 20 pounds of muscle he'd already be on the main roster imo.

I mean, Black hasn't said a single word, so they probably need to get him to cut some actual promos before he's ready for anything close to that. I have no idea if he can actually cut a promo.

Be careful, this is WWE we're talking about. They run what should be easy characters (Bayley is a big one right now) into the ground.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Be careful, this is WWE we're talking about. They run what should be easy characters (Bayley is a big one right now) into the ground.

Right, but Bayley is part of the Daniel Bryan booking conundrum where Vince convinced himself he could get people like Bayley and Zayn over by making them lose all the time. They aren't selling Black like that.

If he can even sort of cut a promo I think he's going to be a big star.

 

[serenewarfare]

Be careful, this is WWE we're talking about. They run what should be easy characters (Bayley is a big one right now) into the ground.

I really disagree with this assertion that Bayley is an easy thing. It took two years of storytelling and twists and turns and good decision making to get Bayley to where she was in Brooklyn, and most of the main roster crowd is aware of none of that.

Black on the other hand, is easy. He's got a look, a cool presentation, and can go. I think he'll fill much of the same space as guys like Jeff Hardy, Punk, and Balor do, where fans like them because they just have an intangible thing about them that makes them seem cool to a majority of the audience.

 

[Angry Grimace]

I mean, Balor is an easy target, but he's still pretty fucking over and his SummerSlam match with Wyatt is something they should have been building to from the start. Hell, the dude is probably more awkward on promos than Roman Reigns, he just gets away with it because he has babyface charisma that Roman doesn't (not that this is the performer's fault, it's that people don't want to see Sasuke Uchiha in the wrestling ring). I think Black has the same thing, except he probably can't be worse on the mic than Balor is. And I like Balor, it doesn't really matter that he's an awkward dude on the mic.

I think you'd have to legitimately go out of your way to ruin Black. A lot of the people that wrestling fans think have been "ruined" haven't really, it's that they play weirdo gimmicks (superfan who hugs people; awkward ska-guy) that don't work well to be "booked well" which wrestling fans tend to interpret as "wins all of the time."