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The knee that broke John's nose came shortly after the buckle bomb that ended Sting. Both came from the same person

Ryback injured the exact same amount of people (Punk and Barrett) and is called reckless and an idiot all the time. Which is also deserved, because he also is both.
 

Zach

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Data West

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Seriously? Not sure I've ever disagreed with you to such a degree, haha. If you want some insight into why he's constantly getting pushed, maybe it's because as a heel he was part of one the best tag teams in recent years and, as a face, he received the biggest pop for winning the Dream Gate since, fuck, CIMA five years ago maybe.

Nah man. You know how Bret talks about Triple H with the 'I've never seen him do anything great. He's good but nothing about him is great or unique or special' that's Yamato to a tee for me. Doi carried the shit out of Yamato from my perspective, and I get that Doi's been there a long time, but Yamato isn't even on the same level in-ring or in charisma as Doi, Yoshino, Tozawa, Shingo, or CIMA

even the younger students like Eita and Maria I think are better in-ring than him. It's funny when people talk about T-Hawk being a flop to me despite him wanting to be their big push because Yamato to me is just T-HAwk to everyone else
The knee that broke John's nose came shortly after the buckle bomb that ended Sting. Both came from the same person

Ryback injured the exact same amount of people (Punk and Barrett) and is called reckless and an idiot all the time. Which is also deserved, because he also is both.

Don't forget Swagger getting called reckless for concussing Dolph. 'These things happen! ...except when it's not one of my faves then they're a sloppy shit wrestler'
 

Fox318

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all this Bret Austin talk had me go back and rewatch survivor series 1996.

Man Vince sounds like he is doing an impression of an announcer.
 

Ithil

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The knee that broke John's nose came shortly after the buckle bomb that ended Sting. Both came from the same person

Ryback injured the exact same amount of people (Punk and Barrett) and is called reckless and an idiot all the time. Which is also deserved, because he also is both.

Ryback wasn't called reckless over simply a running tally of injuries, it was over how rough and uncoordinated he was in the ring. Sheamus is not uncoordinated but he straddles the line between "stiff" and simply unnecessarily rough.
Swagger injured Barrett and Ziggler, but I would not call him an unsafe wrestler.

I would also think that no matter what your opinion of Seth is, you would agree Sting should not have been taking any of the bumps he was in that match at 56.
 

Fox318

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Ryback wasn't called reckless over simply about a running tally of injuries, it was over how rough and uncoordinated he was in the ring. Sheamus is not uncoordinated but he straddles the line between "stiff" and simply unnecessarily rough.

I would also think that no matter what your opinion of Seth is, you would agree Sting should not have been taking any of the bumps he was in that match at 56.

Yup.

Imagine Taker, Big Show, HHH, or Rock being told they had to take those bumps.

Shit look at Andre's latter years.
 
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As a female professional wrestler, I understand the pressure female athletes feel to serve as role models to other women by being strong and letting them know that they can shatter any glass ceiling. (Note to women reading this: Yes, you can!)

But being a “victim” doesn’t seem to fit into the narrative of being a strong woman. When people see me, they see a muscular woman who wrestles both men and women. They think that I can surely take care of myself—and kick ass—if a man ever tried to raise a hand to me.

The reality is that I was a victim of domestic violence, and for so long I felt pressured to be silent around my own abuse, allowing it to continue behind closed doors.

Not only was I embarrassed by what was happening, I stayed silent because I didn’t want to be known as a victim. In order to be a top female wrestler, I needed to be perceived as a strong woman, not a victim. Besides, I was working with World Wrestling Entertainment’s (WWE) NXT program, and my ex and I were both working with TNA Impact Wrestling at the time, so I felt I had to protect both of our careers.

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That’s why silence seemed like the best option. But I know now that silence allows the issue of domestic violence to thrive although the statistics are loud and clear: 1 in 4 women will experience domestic violence in her lifetime.

I never had a black eye, but whenever my ex didn’t like something I said or did, he would choke me. Eventually, I realized that his mindset was “because I’m not leaving a mark on you, it’s OK.”

I was recounting this experience with Brian Pacheco of Safe Horizon, an organization that helps victims and is trying to change the way we talk about domestic violence, who informed me how much danger I was really in. He told me that strangulation can be a significant predictor for future, often lethal violence. I was stunned to learn this.

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Looking back, had I stayed, I wonder if I would still be here today.

I’ll never forget the red flags: The time he kicked my injured knee. The times he kicked or punched our dog. Or the time he scooped me up and put me in a closet. I laughed because there was no lock—I could simply get out. But he put the chair between the closet and door so I couldn’t open it. The situation freaked me out, and I couldn’t call for help because he took my phone. I broke down that door and finally fought back. But he took me down with ease and wrapped a towel around my neck.

Many people don’t expect victims to fight back. But many of us do. Do we not deserve to protect ourselves? I was so in love with him though that I wouldn’t give it my all, only fight back enough to get him off.

I knew I had to leave the relationship. And when I finally told people, more often than not, I wasn’t believed. Some of our mutual friends thought I was exaggerating and making it up. In fact, when I filed the order of protection, my ex’s trainer tried to talk me out of it. He told me that I was hurting my ex’s career because I have a bigger name and so I should be more considerate.

But it was when I told other female athletes, other female wrestlers, that my heart sank. When I disclosed my abuse to them, many disclosed the same to me.

Today, I shatter that silence. Because being a strong woman means being allowed to be vulnerable and ask for help when we need it. And we should be believed, not blamed.

You may have noticed my purple nail in some of my recent matches. I started painting my nail last year when I first saw Safe Horizon’s #PutTheNailinIt campaign to end domestic violence—it my secret way to say, “I survived.” Now, I paint my nail to let other survivors know I believe you. It’s OK to speak out. It’s OK to seek help.

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Tough read. Purple nail.
 

Mizerman

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all this Bret Austin talk had me go back and rewatch survivor series 1996.

Man Vince sounds like he is doing an impression of an announcer.

Every time I remember Vince's stint as a announcer, my mind goes back to the Wrestlemania arcade game where he shouts "BOOMSHAKALAKA!"
 

Fox318

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I don't know the history you're referring to, but did Rick Rude hate The Stinger?



Haha, yeah.

God everything about Vince is a fucking lie.

He could just go out there and try and commentate the match normally but he deepens his voice in some kind of attempt to sound older or something.

Everyone else is fucking talking normally and Vince is out there speaking through his nose.

This man practically controls wrestling and all he did was wait for the others to kill themselves.
 

Ithil

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all this Bret Austin talk had me go back and rewatch survivor series 1996.

Man Vince sounds like he is doing an impression of an announcer.

Vince on commentary makes me laugh with how suddenly his switch from "speaking voice" to "DRAMATIC ANNOUNCER VOICE" is. He's speaking normally then someone goes for a cover in the match and he instantly switches "such and such THIS COULD BE IT HE GOT HIM NO and moving on" .
 
Nah man. You know how Bret talks about Triple H with the 'I've never seen him do anything great. He's good but nothing about him is great or unique or special' that's Yamato to a tee for me. Doi carried the shit out of Yamato from my perspective, and I get that Doi's been there a long time, but Yamato isn't even on the same level in-ring or in charisma as Doi, Yoshino, Tozawa, Shingo, or CIMA

even the younger students like Eita and Maria I think are better in-ring than him. It's funny when people talk about T-Hawk being a flop to me despite him wanting to be their big push because Yamato to me is just T-HAwk to everyone else

I'm as big of a Shingo fan as you're likely to find, but YAMATO did in a few months what Shingo consistently failed to do over the space of years - get over as a top face of the promotion, and you can't do that without some charisma. I share your appreciation of T-Hawk, he easily showed the most promise of all the Millennials to me (Eita's a great technician, but is severely lacking in emotion for my liking). Also, Maria's good, but lets not go crazy here, she's got a few solid singles matches under her belt, but also has a fair way to go in my estimation.
 
Vince on commentary makes me laugh with how suddenly his switch from "speaking voice" to "DRAMATIC ANNOUNCER VOICE" is. He's speaking normally then someone goes for a cover in the match and he instantly switches "such and such THIS COULD BE IT HE GOT HIM NO and moving on" .
How did I describe it, his voice was like a kid going through puberty trying to yell at his parents because he couldn't get something. Worse than Peter from the Brady Bunch.
 

gun_haver

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Never seen Bobby Roode wrestle, because I would never watch TNA, but his NXT theme is incredible.

Yeah, I've never watched TNA and my reaction to Roode when he showed up in the crowd was 'wow, that guy's face has no personality at all. this is nothing' - but then he came out and cut a pretty damn good promo that makes him seem like suddenly the new focus of NXT, the corporate villain to an audience that thinks of itself as the antibody to that, and i realised this guy might be exactly what NXT needs right now. cos nobody stays and the scene is pretty weak right now. there's potential but it needs something to focus things around and a glorious bobby roode as the heel champ for a few months sounds perfect.

and yeah. the theme song adds so much.
 

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I didn't know Mikaze had retired. (He's one of the guys who are often on Xavier's UUDD videos).
 

gun_haver

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Good for Sasha. Kinda surprised, she's really young, isn't she like 23? Well I guess when things are going this well just dive in.
 
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That's cool. I doubt the guy considers himself a "seamstress", though. But maybe.

Hope he considers himself something, because that dude has 0 personality in the videos I've seen of him.
 

gun_haver

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That's cool. I doubt the guy considers himself a "seamstress", though. But maybe.

haha yeah with that seamstress thing and the pic of her leaning into i guess one of her buddies i thought 'wait, sasha's gay? man that is so co-oh, right.'. Thought we had our first openly gay married WWE women's champion for a sec.
 
I just can't fathom the mentality.
Same. Nor do I ever want to.

Yeah, I've never watched TNA and my reaction to Roode when he showed up in the crowd was 'wow, that guy's face has no personality at all. this is nothing' - but then he came out and cut a pretty damn good promo that makes him seem like suddenly the new focus of NXT, the corporate villain to an audience that thinks of itself as the antibody to that, and i realised this guy might be exactly what NXT needs right now. cos nobody stays and the scene is pretty weak right now. there's potential but it needs something to focus things around and a glorious bobby roode as the heel champ for a few months sounds perfect.

and yeah. the theme song adds so much.
Bobby Roode is definitely what TNA needs, and that theme song is glorious.

I didn't know Mikaze had retired. (He's one of the guys who are often on Xavier's UUDD videos).
Didn't he take a terrible bump and stop after that? Seems like a chill dude from the videos, I'm happy for him and the boss.
 

Mizerman

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Yeah, I've never watched TNA and my reaction to Roode when he showed up in the crowd was 'wow, that guy's face has no personality at all. this is nothing' - but then he came out and cut a pretty damn good promo that makes him seem like suddenly the new focus of NXT, the corporate villain to an audience that thinks of itself as the antibody to that, and i realised this guy might be exactly what NXT needs right now. cos nobody stays and the scene is pretty weak right now. there's potential but it needs something to focus things around and a glorious bobby roode as the heel champ for a few months sounds perfect.

and yeah. the theme song adds so much.

Yeah, Roode was pretty good during his time in TNA. Especially when came into his own during his singles run.
 

Menome

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This talk of Owen has reminded me that I still haven't plucked up the gumption to watch Over The Edge '99 yet. I've just sort of stalled there, like I've captured Owen in time and he'll stay alive if I never progress forward.
 
I never cared for Roode during TNA, probably because during his Team Canada shit he was next to Petey Williams and by comparison didn't have the greatest finisher of all time

With Beer Money I just didn't like the gimmick so I never really paid attention

Most of the time when I watched TNA back then, the appeal was the ridiculous shit from the ROH crew mixed with random ECW/WCW alum hanging out. I might have more of an appreciation for Roode now but at this point I haven't seen him wrestle in like 8 years

Cool theme though, and his promo was solid so I'm down
 
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This talk of Owen has reminded me that I still haven't plucked up the gumption to watch Over The Edge '99 yet. I've just sort of stalled there, like I've captured Owen in time and he'll stay alive if I never progress forward.

It's okay. It gets better.
 
So is the CWC really going to happen and WWE will fail to sign both Ibushi and ZSJ?


I wonder if that will effect the booking because that seemed like the logical finale.
 

gun_haver

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Wrestling in general and WWE specifically is so good right now, friends. Let's just bask in that for a moment. We're not talking about booking mistakes, or making too many Vince jokes, cos we're too busy talking about ongoing developments and great matches. It's all looking good. We've got 3 separate strong shows within WWE now, with great prospects hopefully going to propel them further, and the UK wrestling scene is very strong if you're looking for more, and then you've got Japan as well if you want even more. I've been having a blast these past few months.

Think where we were just a year ago. All we had was Rollins in a heel role, and Brock showing up to peak our interest. Now you've gotta tune in every week and see what's gonna happen next. If they really stay awake on this, we could be at the start of a new hot streak.
 
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