Same thing as last week, except HHH made the faces look like total pussies. Also, he sang "When you wish upon a star".
Paul Heyman and Punk engaged in some BDSM. It was pretty hot. Paul was crying afterwards. Which was even hotter.
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Same thing as last week, except HHH made the faces look like total pussies. Also, he sang "When you wish upon a star".
Paul Heyman and Punk engaged in some BDSM. It was pretty hot. Paul was crying afterwards. Which was even hotter.
wwe is inept at building stars these days
they're milking the last few they have and now that cena is gone hhh aka fuckboy wants some airtime. thinks he's relevant in 2013 and interesting. puts himself over along with another crappy wrestler that's always been boring. the wwe only has two semifresh main event wrestlers and one of them is being shelf'd on the midcard vs paul heyman
it's like if somebody nobody gives a shit about anymore came out and pinned Austin for the title after WM14
EDIT: can the wwe at least try and put on a show where the roster isn't filled with the same wrestlers that have been in the same rivalries over and over again for the last 8+ years or so ?
they're milking the last few they have and now that cena is gone hhh aka fuckboy wants some airtime. thinks he's relevant in 2013 and interesting. puts himself over along with another crappy wrestler that's always been boring. the wwe only has two semifresh main event wrestlers and one of them is being shelf'd on the midcard vs paul heyman
it's like if somebody nobody gives a shit about anymore came out and pinned Austin for the title after WM14
EDIT: can the wwe at least try and put on a show where the roster isn't filled with the same wrestlers that have been in the same rivalries over and over again for the last 8+ years or so ?
That is...eerily close to what happened. And it was the best part of the show.
Axel needed a ballgag.
RVD vs ADR is fresh. Punk vs El Hijo de Perfecto is fresh. Sandow vs Rhodes is fresh. HHH vs Bryan is fresh.
Fresh feuds aren't really a problem at the moment. Most of the things going on right now are new enough. HHH was great tonight. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a mark.
Fresh feuds aren't really a problem at the moment. Most of the things going on right now are new enough. HHH was great tonight. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a mark.
jobber
Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
did anyone explain how Sandow got a new MitB contract. I remember Cody taking the contract out the old case then throwing the case at Sandow.
If the contract was replaceable, then why did he risk his life swimming in the Gulf of Mexico for it???????????????????
If the contract was replaceable, then why did he risk his life swimming in the Gulf of Mexico for it???????????????????
Dark Ninja
Member
Watching the parts of RAW i missed. Dear god the commentary during the Fandango match was cringe worthy trying to get every pop culture reference they could out there. Punk and Axel had a decent match. Punk got a really nice beatdown, Heyman is so great he's pretty much playing some sort of crazy ex-girlfriend.
God Damn that AJ Pipe Bomb. The other girls just making random noises trying to be loud just made it better in some parts.
God Damn that AJ Pipe Bomb. The other girls just making random noises trying to be loud just made it better in some parts.
Yah its not really Axel's fault that getting bitch slapped by HHH in his debut, count out wins and DQ wins didn't give him any cred and get him over. Then they just pretty much gave up on him. Now he's just kinda there, at least he gets to wrestle he's pretty decent to good in the ring.
Net_Wrecker
Member
I'm so blinded by my boredom with authority figure angles that I don't even care if HHH is doing a good job or not. I don't think there's been a single week of WWE TV without owner, CEO, COO, CEOO, commissioner, guest commissioner, Head of Talent Relations, GM, interim GM, Probation GM, wrestler host, guest wrestler host, celebrity host, celebrity star athlete guest host, hostile takeover billionaire guest host, and/or laptop GM controversy in the last 16 years.
It's like....we get it already. The people in charge are mean. Let's move on.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
Just watched Dr. No for the first time in like 9 years. Good lord it's boring. It has a few decent scenes and quotes here and there, but meh. I'll watch From Russia With Love now.
Professor Beef
Banned
Are you saying that you would rather have the inmates run the asylum!? Are you insane!?
bean breath
Member
Hey, is Batister (British for Batista) in the new Riddick movie? I thought I saw him for a split second on the commercial.
Uh, no. He beat Cena in a ladder match after AJ pushed Cena off a ladder. Is that what you mean by clean?
Professor Beef
Banned
Ziggler won something last year?
bean breath
Member
No, he means Big E. Langston's debut.
Net_Wrecker
Member
Thsss'zackly what I'm saying. There's been entirely too much Hugo Strange vs. Superman, and not enough Batman & Friends vs. The Inmates.
Batista translated into
But yes, Dave "Leviathan" Bautista is in RIDDICK® starring Muscle Car and Tough Woman from Space Show.
Hey man there's no DQ in ladder matches. Ziggler broke no rules!
My point is that he has tumbled so far. From beating Cena in main events and winning the world title to... whatever he's doing now.
British Monsoon
Member
No way! Dr. No is awesome, it's like a budget Bond film. He doesn't have a fancy car, doesn't have a bunch of crazy gadgets, etc. It's dated as hell, but there's a certain charm to it that I love. From Russia With Love is my favourite of all the Bond films though, just some straight up, kick-arse, no-nonsense cold-war espionage. Proper fun film and probably the most restrained of all the Bond films.
British Monsoon
Member
I haven't seen it, but google says it was him, so there you go.
Speaking of cameos, Kurt Angle has a very brief cameo in Pain & Gain, getting his ass handed to him by Rocky;
Mr. Enigma
Member
Batista being in WWE 2K14 was a deal that 2K made directly with Batista. It doesn't really change his status with WWE at all.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
Just finished FRWL. Absolutely amazing stuff. Great story, great characters, great setting, and the ladies shit man, don't get me started >
Now I remember why I prefer it over Dr. No for all these years. Truth be told, I only ever watched these two in full. I watched snippets from pretty much all rest though while on TV. What are your favorite Bond films? I remember Goldeneye being kinda cool as well.
The Mango Sentinel
Member
I've seen every Bond film and most of them are dogshit. I won't list them all, but I'll list my favorites
In order:
Casino Royale (2006)
Goldfinger
From Russia with Love
Skyfall
Goldeneye
On Her Magesty's Secret Service
The Man with the Golden Gun
Yeah I'm already tired of this.
Die Another Day is the absolute fucking worst one.
In order:
Casino Royale (2006)
Goldfinger
From Russia with Love
Skyfall
Goldeneye
On Her Magesty's Secret Service
The Man with the Golden Gun
Yeah I'm already tired of this.
Die Another Day is the absolute fucking worst one.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
They're free on Amazon Prime until the end of the month. From Dr. No up until The World is Not Enough I believe. I might try to binge through them this weekend. The one with Roger Moore going to space will probably be the dumbest shit ever just based on concept and that crappy poster alone :lol
Xhenxhefil
Member
Watching Raw now, jesus christ just shut the fuck up Bellas.
British Monsoon
Member
The trouble with the whole Mr. H's storyline is that I don't want to see H's cutting lengthy in-ring promos, I don't want to see H's get his comeuppance, I don't want to see H's wrestle. I just don't want to see him altogether.
Also, the Bellas were beyond awful during that AJ promo, what is wrong with them?
Fave Five Bond Films;
1. From Russia With Love
2. Goldfinger
3. Thunderball
4. Goldeneye
5. Licence to Kill
Also, the Bellas were beyond awful during that AJ promo, what is wrong with them?
Fave Five Bond Films;
1. From Russia With Love
2. Goldfinger
3. Thunderball
4. Goldeneye
5. Licence to Kill
Lack of talent. They were told that when AJ was cutting her promo, they were supposed to trash talk her. This is what they think trash talk is.
When you go "SAY IT TO MY FACE" when she's out there saying it to your face, you know you can't do improv. Not just the Bella's, people like Curtis Axel also suffer from a complete lack of improv qualities, causing them to fumble even a single line of promo.
I blame WWE Creative for not telling these people exactly what to say and when to say it, word for word, several days before Raw. They can study their lines.
Either that, or keep them away from TV.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
According to the Amazon description, Never Say Never Again is a remake of Thunderball. It's weird that they made a remake (with Connery starring again) if it's going to be worse than the original.
British Monsoon
Member
That one's not really considered canon, as it wasn't made by the regular Bond production company - it was only ever made because of lengthy legal battles between Ian Flemming and Kevin McClory, a director who helped Flemming come up with the plot outline for Thunderball. McClory finally won the rights to make a film based on the original plot outline in the 80's and they made Never Say Never Again. It's definitely inferior to Thunderball, but did pretty well when it released and it's kinda cool to see an older Bond.
Promos in the last year and a half to 2 years have been a lot less clearly written out word for word. There are a few guys that NEED that, though. Curtis Axel is definitely one of them. Aiiiiiiiiii is right. WWE Creative needs to work with some guys a lot more than others. I hate to say it, but Daniel Bryan probably needs that, too. Unless they're already doing that with him.
It's really weird, but Daniel Bryan clearly loves his job so much that he's always on the verge of corpsing when he talks. But when he gets angry, it feels legit. He has Nice Guy Daniel promo voice, and American Dragon promo voice. The "Uhh, that's not what I think/Randy is so PRETTY" voice is Daniel Bryan voice. The stuff with when he talks about wrestling in high schools and armories and that he's a WRESTLER is American Dragon voice. I much prefer American Dragon voice. His promo skills aren't that great, but the main reason is because he's so happy doing his job that he can't even hide it. Frankly, that's pretty awesome. But when he gets pissed, he's pretty great at promos. It's really kind of strange. I don't even know what I want out of him. I think he both needs word for word promos, but at the same time, his promos FEEL like they're word for word, except when he's pissed.
Punk is kind of in the same place to me. His serious voice promos are pretty meh, but when he gets pissed, he's the best promo guy in the business. Punk should never be in serious voice or sarcastic mode. He should always be in pissed off mode. That's really the essence of his character and has been for the past 10 years. He can still be a sarcastic asshole while being pissed. Him snapping on the fat dude last week made amazing what otherwise would have been a kind of boring promo.
It's really weird, but Daniel Bryan clearly loves his job so much that he's always on the verge of corpsing when he talks. But when he gets angry, it feels legit. He has Nice Guy Daniel promo voice, and American Dragon promo voice. The "Uhh, that's not what I think/Randy is so PRETTY" voice is Daniel Bryan voice. The stuff with when he talks about wrestling in high schools and armories and that he's a WRESTLER is American Dragon voice. I much prefer American Dragon voice. His promo skills aren't that great, but the main reason is because he's so happy doing his job that he can't even hide it. Frankly, that's pretty awesome. But when he gets pissed, he's pretty great at promos. It's really kind of strange. I don't even know what I want out of him. I think he both needs word for word promos, but at the same time, his promos FEEL like they're word for word, except when he's pissed.
Punk is kind of in the same place to me. His serious voice promos are pretty meh, but when he gets pissed, he's the best promo guy in the business. Punk should never be in serious voice or sarcastic mode. He should always be in pissed off mode. That's really the essence of his character and has been for the past 10 years. He can still be a sarcastic asshole while being pissed. Him snapping on the fat dude last week made amazing what otherwise would have been a kind of boring promo.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
Do Bond films overall have a "canon"?
I'm guessing whenever they change the lead they pretty much do a reboot. So there's a Connery canon, a Moore canon, a Brosnin canon, etc, no?
edit:
I love DB, but yeah, his promos need a lot of work. I hate to say it, but even Cena can dish-out better promos than him. He just needs a bit more practice I think.
Marvel
could never
lol, I know.
That's the thing with Cena. He's clearly capable of having excellent promos, but he only does 2-3 a year and the rest of the time he's saying the same bullshit in the same way with the same weird cadence and tone every week. It's so frustrating. I'm not sure there is anything more frustrating as a wrestling fan when you know a guy isn't doing what he's capable of. Especially in the case of a guy who basically has free reign to do and say whatever.
British Monsoon
Member
There are things that carry over though, like the actors playing M, Moneypenny, Q, etc, so I've always thought it of more as if the Bond name is just an alias assumed by agents who are promoted to 007 rank when a former 007 retires/is killed.
strobogo said:
Definitely, it sounds way more natural, whereas when he isn't using it his promos do sound very stilted and it's only him charm that saves it.
Marvel
could never
I prefer Heel bryan myself, the work he did when he was WHC was awesome and I totally get what you're saying about American Dragon voice if he's gonna be a top face I want to see that intensity week in week out not this current smiley happy dude. As for Punk I already miss his paring with Heyman, that shit was insanely good. Just hope that when Punk does get his hands on Heyman properly and the feud is done with his career doesn't fizzle out again.
Outside the lengthy time spent in the Rumble and his one night cash-in vs. Del Rio to win the WHC, he's been booked like shit this year (by shit, I mean doing practically nothing). Through getting women always by his side, forced tag team partners (Swagger, Langston, Kofi lol), he'll probably be in the same spot three years from now if he doesn't snap and leave.
I'll try to watch Raw in a bit. Though tbh I'd rather not watch much of HHH or I'll fall asleep again.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
I think it's mostly a problem with the company than with Cena himself really. They want him to be perform in a certain way, so he does as they wish. Though at this point, with how long he's been at the top of the food chain, I'm pretty sure he developed a bit of an ego and just coasting along. If only for a bit.
I think I'll get a heart-attack by the time I'm finished with the Bond movies lol, I'm an absolute continuity FREAK. I absolutely despise whenever a character's actor or voice is changed, or when events in the past are completely disregarded and ignored. Kinda like the old comedy shows and cartoons in the '80s or '90s where just wacky shit happens on an episode never to be mentioned again (e.g Dexter's Laboratory).
That's why I love comedies like 30 Rock or The Office. They do all kinds of crazy shit in their episodes, but they're still constantly referencing said events. Nothing happens in a vacuum. Sorry for the rant btw, just had to get it off my chest
The only thing that saves Daniel Bryan's smiley happy dude promo is that he clearly IS that guy. That's the real Daniel Bryan Danielson. I can't hate on him for that. Cena feels completely inauthentic as that guy and only sounds natural when he slips into his WORD LIFE persona. Even as early as Confidential in 2002, it was pretty obvious that Cena isn't the happy go lucky Poopy McFart joke kind of guy. He is a goofy dude, but not in that way. Thuganomics is way closer to his real life persona than Mr. Hustle Loyalty Repect guy.
It's so weird to me that he sticks with what he's been doing since 2006ish considering he can do whatever he wants short of rape or murder. We all know that isn't him, he knows it isn't him, but he does the same thing every week for years and years. He's obviously a guy with a pretty insane work ethic. I wonder why he doesn't bring more of himself into his on screen life anymore. I can understand it from an in ring perspective. Hulk realized early on that he doesn't have to work as hard as he did in Japan in the states to get the same reaction. I get that completely. I don't get the promo work. If there is one thing Hogan never half assed during his glory years, it was promos. But Cena clearly half asses it when talking except for 2-3 promos a year. That seems creatively and professionally unfulfilling to me.
It's so weird to me that he sticks with what he's been doing since 2006ish considering he can do whatever he wants short of rape or murder. We all know that isn't him, he knows it isn't him, but he does the same thing every week for years and years. He's obviously a guy with a pretty insane work ethic. I wonder why he doesn't bring more of himself into his on screen life anymore. I can understand it from an in ring perspective. Hulk realized early on that he doesn't have to work as hard as he did in Japan in the states to get the same reaction. I get that completely. I don't get the promo work. If there is one thing Hogan never half assed during his glory years, it was promos. But Cena clearly half asses it when talking except for 2-3 promos a year. That seems creatively and professionally unfulfilling to me.
Remember last month when I said AJ was one of the better promo workers in the company right now and everyone went "lol Aiii you're an idiot" (except Strobogo, because he's smart) and then later, when I said Ziggler probably could use a mouth piece instead of doing stuff by himself? Breaking Dolph up with his "woman" was a bloody mistake if I ever saw one. Dolph's pretty bumping isn't going to get him a main event spot, he needs someone to cut his promo's for him.
Either put him with Heyman, or put him with anyone worth a damn on the mic and he'll be sure to be in the main event. But he's not getting over as a face by himself.
People up here saying Bryan needs help with his promo's are right too. The big difference I see between someone like Bryan and someone like Ziggler is that Bryan, even though he's always smiling, is never fumbling lines. He knows what he's going to say and says it. His delivery when trying to be not-so-serious-face needs work, I agree with you guys on that, but not his actual lines or improv. He's fine in that respect.
Plus, he's a guy you just WANT to root for, that goes a long way. Ziggler doesn't have that outside of his better matches. He really needs to work on that, but better yet, needs someone at his side to work with. Once again, put him with Heyman instead of Joe Hennig, because at the very least Dolph can have a proper dialogue with Heyman without looking like a tool.
Putting him with Heyman, or another mouth piece, is fine and I would be okay with that. That's a different matter.
He definitely needs to be kept away from women because he's been with one since 2009. At the very least, four years of something that was not getting him anywhere, or better by being showcased with promo time. Edge spoke about that way before his big run, and mentioned having Christian there by his side helped him in promos and interviews because he was able to get more comfortable speaking in front of a large crowd, and basically being confident getting his point across. I don't think Ziggler has been given a decent opportunity for that quite yet (and he's been with the WWE since 2004), but I'm not sure that's the biggest issue he's had. As he spoke about briefly a short time ago, he hasn't necessarily liked what he's been given to work with, or liked its direction.
He definitely needs to be kept away from women because he's been with one since 2009. At the very least, four years of something that was not getting him anywhere, or better by being showcased with promo time. Edge spoke about that way before his big run, and mentioned having Christian there by his side helped him in promos and interviews because he was able to get more comfortable speaking in front of a large crowd, and basically being confident getting his point across. I don't think Ziggler has been given a decent opportunity for that quite yet (and he's been with the WWE since 2004), but I'm not sure that's the biggest issue he's had. As he spoke about briefly a short time ago, he hasn't necessarily liked what he's been given to work with, or liked its direction.
But they put him with people for a reason. There's a good reason to why he's never put on his own. He's not natural enough on the mic to cut a promo, he fumbles through his lines, he's not convincing, he won't get over that way.
When he has someone to talk to in backstage skits he's fine. That's why he was doing much better with Big E and AJ than he is doing without them. It was a huge mistake to break up that team so soon.
When he has someone to talk to in backstage skits he's fine. That's why he was doing much better with Big E and AJ than he is doing without them. It was a huge mistake to break up that team so soon.
HHH showed people who still runs things. Damn right,
WhoaIsThatMars
Member
Curtis Axel has got to have the most annoying laugh in the world and we hear it every time he's on camera...