Perspicacity
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To be fair I can only think of like five guys in the history of pro graps who Williams couldn't have dismantled.
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To be fair I can only think of like five guys in the history of pro graps who Williams couldn't have dismantled.
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Yeah, he's something special. I hope he keeps himself clean, and safe, because he still has a ton of potential. He also puts on some serious match of the year candidates with regularity. He's also been given great opponents as well.
I remember reading in here that he's having money problems right now because he went a little crazy with all his newfound cash. Hopefully it's an early wake up call that none of this is permanent and he needs to take care of himself.
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As much as I liked a G1 Climax Devil-horns Vince, I gotta go back to this avatar. Perfect fit.
And one of those guys was Bart fucking Gunn.
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Such a goddamn swerve.
BronsonLee
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Goddamnit Sunflower I can't tell whether your beard thread is a troll thread or not 
And Bart Gunn beating Williams led to the best moment of Wrestlemania 15, Butterbean ANNIHILATING HIM
And Bart Gunn beating Williams led to the best moment of Wrestlemania 15, Butterbean ANNIHILATING HIM
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Goddamnit Sunflower I can't tell whether your beard thread is a troll thread or not
And Bart Gunn beating Williams led to the best moment of Wrestlemania 15, Butterbean ANNIHILATING HIM
Was a foregone conclusion. Butterbean isn't GOOD by any stretch of the imagination but against any amateur they'd likely get eaten. I really like Bean though, good entertainer.
BronsonLee
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Yeah, I doubt anybody expected Bart to win/do much. Bean did a lot entertainment wise too, yeah. When I was watching it I expected Bean to probably just get him via enough knockdowns, not send his damn head into the cheap seats
Cody and Sandow is one good mid-card storyline we've gotten in what feels like years. That's growing on me but they need to put something up for grabs.
ADR-Christian I'm sure will be a fine match. The story they've played so far is fairly forgettable, and doesn't help the fact WWE continually puts these two on free TV so often, it makes no sense for people to pay to see on a PPV. They do this with lots of guys, I don't get it.
The mixed tag is just a waste for Ziggler. They did the same at WM.
Tag titles, U.S. title, and IC titles are all but forgotten.
This is something I've noticed as soon as I started watching wrestling again a couple years ago - there were virtually no mid-card feuds. Like, every match at a PPV had a story around it and it was built up at nearly every show through promos, backstage segments and matches.
Now it's literally like - Ryback looking at Mark Henry funny started and carried a feud for a Wrestlemania match. Like, fuck that is awful and lazy.
Perspicacity
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I dunno, I think all of the angles are pretty solid heading into this because nothing has been overexposed or underbaked.
Usually we'll get dragged along in a Cena storyline and see the exact same confrontations every single week, but this feud is still fresh and using Orton + The Shield to stoke the flames is working well.
Punk/Brock/Heyman has been a master class so far, as everyone is playing their roles to a T and the brawls leading to total beatdowns of Punk have been really enjoyable. Also "Paul say something stupid" is even better than "It's piss".
Cody/Sandow has been given more TV time than a midcard feud usually gets these days, but it's still only just enough that all of their confrontations so far have been meaningful. Should be a fun match and I wouldn't be upset to see the angle last another month or so. Ideal scenario - set up a match for the briefcase but have Sandow "brilliantly" cash it in before that match, denying Cody an opportunity at the title or the case.
Wyatt/Kane ring of fire is pretty much the perfect debut feud for Wyatt, as it lets both guys play up their respective characters. I'm pretty sure we can get a good hoss fight out of the two of them, as Wyatt can move and Kane seems motivated.
Everything else is less good, but four matches with meaning behind them is better than the 1/2 that we usually get.
I'm getting a little sick of the Ziggler stuff (he really should have just stuck with the multi-ethnic Team Rocket), but hopefully Big E and he can deliver in the match. Kaitlyn/AJ is usually pretty good but it's starting to outstay it's welcome.
Usually we'll get dragged along in a Cena storyline and see the exact same confrontations every single week, but this feud is still fresh and using Orton + The Shield to stoke the flames is working well.
Punk/Brock/Heyman has been a master class so far, as everyone is playing their roles to a T and the brawls leading to total beatdowns of Punk have been really enjoyable. Also "Paul say something stupid" is even better than "It's piss".
Cody/Sandow has been given more TV time than a midcard feud usually gets these days, but it's still only just enough that all of their confrontations so far have been meaningful. Should be a fun match and I wouldn't be upset to see the angle last another month or so. Ideal scenario - set up a match for the briefcase but have Sandow "brilliantly" cash it in before that match, denying Cody an opportunity at the title or the case.
Wyatt/Kane ring of fire is pretty much the perfect debut feud for Wyatt, as it lets both guys play up their respective characters. I'm pretty sure we can get a good hoss fight out of the two of them, as Wyatt can move and Kane seems motivated.
Everything else is less good, but four matches with meaning behind them is better than the 1/2 that we usually get.
I'm getting a little sick of the Ziggler stuff (he really should have just stuck with the multi-ethnic Team Rocket), but hopefully Big E and he can deliver in the match. Kaitlyn/AJ is usually pretty good but it's starting to outstay it's welcome.
Always has hype (it's pushed as the summer Mania) but often under-delivers. The past four in LA haven't been so good.
Maria to Vicki to AJ. That's been Dolph's calling in the past four years. He needs to be by himself. And really, he doesn't need to be out there cutting promos for 10 minutes. It's not his strong suit for one, but it's not necessary either. Leave it to backstage stuff or quick 2 minute badgering. Later, you'd hope somebody like him or Bryan win the Rumble.
bean breath
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Djsandman or anyone else,
Do public libraries have any safeguards to stop scum like me from checking out CD's, ripping them to my hard drive, and uploading them to my cloud music service of choice?
I see some metallic ribbon laminated on the disc but that's just to trip the detector at the door when not checked out properly, right? It's not damaging my disk drive or sending out some signal when spun at a certain speed?
I guess you guys are ecstatic about the absence of disc drives on new hardware,
so maybe now you're cutting us poors with aging equipment some slack and looking the other way?
Does it look suspicious when I return a CD hours after I've checked it out? How long should I wait? 2 days? A week?
My guilty conscious is eating me alive, I wish bangai-o were here; you just know he's doing the same thing too.
Do public libraries have any safeguards to stop scum like me from checking out CD's, ripping them to my hard drive, and uploading them to my cloud music service of choice?
I see some metallic ribbon laminated on the disc but that's just to trip the detector at the door when not checked out properly, right? It's not damaging my disk drive or sending out some signal when spun at a certain speed?
I guess you guys are ecstatic about the absence of disc drives on new hardware,
so maybe now you're cutting us poors with aging equipment some slack and looking the other way?
Does it look suspicious when I return a CD hours after I've checked it out? How long should I wait? 2 days? A week?
My guilty conscious is eating me alive, I wish bangai-o were here; you just know he's doing the same thing too.
Perspicacity
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It seems strange that The Rock hasn't been tapped to play a Superhero yet. He seems like he'd fit the Marvel Movieverse but I don't know who he'd play.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Would be an amazing troll if they do it as a heel tag team.
They'd just be copying Daniels and Kazarian then.
LiquidSolid
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It really isn't that surprising. Most of those Japanese wrestlers have had their themes for years and since they only started doing iPPVs last year, getting the licensing sorted out would be a pain in the ass and suddenly changing them all isn't really an option. Whereas with new or gaijin wrestlers, they can get that stuff sorted out long before they debut.
If you've been watching the iPPVs since last year, you will have noticed that they have gradually been sorting out this issue.
What a downgrade.
They had WWE DVDs at the library if you can believe. Due to time constraints, I made a copy for later viewing and returned the original.
So far piracy police has not come knocking,
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watch out, I smell snitchin'
Tanner1495
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Ziggler finally being on his own is a relief, and I am sure he will challenge Del Rio again before the end of the year. The guy can also be hilarious if given the chance, especially if you ever heard anything he said on NXT.
On the subject of Okada, It is amazing what he has accomplished already at the age of 25, and he has been wrestling for years (there is a match from 2009 that involves both him and Kobashi!) but if he keeps improving, he will be one of the wrestlers ever in New Japan, should be fun to watch!
On the subject of Okada, It is amazing what he has accomplished already at the age of 25, and he has been wrestling for years (there is a match from 2009 that involves both him and Kobashi!) but if he keeps improving, he will be one of the wrestlers ever in New Japan, should be fun to watch!
They typically don't care. I borrow cds from where I work all the time and rip them.
What? Don't look at me like that, classical music (outside of Amazon's 99 piece compilations) is either expensive or hard to find.
That strip is there to keep you from just walking out with the disc, you're free to do what you want to with the information once you have checked it out.
I'd be interested to see his stand-up. He seems like hes a fairly funny guy, but he comes off as really awkward in front of a crowd. I don't get the impression that hes very good at improv either.
To be honest, I think Ziggler needs someone by his side. Whenever he cuts a promo by himself it has varied from sorta okay to quite bad. He is much better when he is in conversation and has someone to play off of. It's the only way the guy comes off natural.
I hope he proves me wrong, but so far putting him on his own hasn't been great.
We'll see how he does once he goes back to Del Rio after SummerSlam.
I hope he proves me wrong, but so far putting him on his own hasn't been great.
We'll see how he does once he goes back to Del Rio after SummerSlam.
Liquidsnake
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Stro, are you watching these for the first time or are you revisiting them?
Also I am going to send you a PM I have a question..
Also I am going to send you a PM I have a question..
Moon Boots
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Ziggler showing off needs to be more than just fucking around in the ring. Obviously, they'll never do an "enter from the rafters" thing again, but that KIND of thing - really showy, demonstrative stuff - is what'll get him over. He's fine on the mic backstage, but he gets stage fright in arenas, so have him do other stuff. They need crowds to think exciting shit is ALWAYS a possibility with him. Having him wreck Alberto's party and play with the mariachi band was an okay start, but it's not enough.
Since his split with AJ he's been... facing AJ and Big E. He has yet to really get away and be on his own.
As far as promos yeah, he isn't going to be Mick Foley and stand out there for 5-6 talking and not looking goofy. But that's not his forte, don't use him in a way he's not built. If he's going to hold a mic, do it interrupting somebody and make fun of them. Do short segments and apply humor. That's the best way for him to be speaking.
Lazy Man's Wallpaper
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Saw this match as the main event of a house show in Charleston, WV in March 1998. Nash came out to "Ready or Not" by Fugees. Worst piece of shit match ever. They teased a test of strength for like five minutes, then there were some run-ins, shenanigans happened and Luger won with the rack. Such a lazy performance by both guys.
Benoit and Raven chopped the piss out of each other, Goldberg was hella over, arena was packed to the gills for a house show. WCW was hot then!
WCW @ Charleston, WV - Civic Center - March 7, 1998
Ernest Miller (sub. for Bobby Walker) defeated Scotty Riggs
Bill Goldberg defeated Yuji Nagata (sub. for Steve McMichael)
Dean Malenko defeated Eddie Guerrero
Rick Steiner defeated Buff Bagwell
Scott Steiner defeated Ray Traylor
Chris Benoit defeated Raven
Lex Luger defeated WCW Tag Team Champion Kevin Nash (sub. for WCW Tag Team Champion Scott Hall)
British Monsoon
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Watching an old WAR show from '94, featuring Lionheart (Chris Jericho) unwisely deciding to try and chop grumpy old Tenryu and then kick him in the head. A decision I'm presuming he soon regretted;
He then got his ass handed to him by Bam Bam and Onita and his partners (Warlord & Vampiro) were next to useless. Such a bizarre mix of talent on these early WAR shows.
He then got his ass handed to him by Bam Bam and Onita and his partners (Warlord & Vampiro) were next to useless. Such a bizarre mix of talent on these early WAR shows.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
You should watch some of the early UFC tournaments.
Well some rating news for those who are interested. The 18--49 group of viewers are interested in the Daniel Bryan and Cena feud with the top segments involved both of them.
With the 18-49 these segments were above 2.0. The Punk vs Axel match bombed with a 1.87 both when Lesnar showed up it got to 1.99. The Wyatts beat them.
With the 18-49 these segments were above 2.0. The Punk vs Axel match bombed with a 1.87 both when Lesnar showed up it got to 1.99. The Wyatts beat them.
British Monsoon
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Oh, Sasuke, you ridiculous crazy bastard;
Relevant;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0CqlmdC-vk
Damn, the way he bounced off the turnbuckle!
Relevant;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0CqlmdC-vk
Damn, the way he bounced off the turnbuckle!
Lazy Man's Wallpaper
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House show plus Kevin Nash is a recipe for disaster, I agree.
Saw another house show in 2000 with a Benoit-Rick Steiner match with NO CHOPS. Not one. I guess Steiner was like "go easy on the chops tonight bro" and Benoit was like, "OK." Was Benoit's last WCW house show so maybe he was past giving a shit
was that when you had to cut the best promo and someone wrote a play by play of a fantasy match? I used to do that shit, but it was like a comedy fed where people chose real wrestlers and tried to be funny. I was a psychopathic sex pest Jeff Jarrett to begin with, and later decided it would be super funny to be a crazy neurotic Kanyon who was obsessed with being the best in every situation. I wrote the whole thing with a lisp (who'th betta 'dan Kanyon!?). 13 year old me wishes I knew Kanyon was gay.
the best dude in that fed was Brian Pillman, and to this day I still maintain that guy was standup comedian funny.
I can't imagine most house show towns are very exciting for guys that have gotten to travel all over the world wrestling. Plus, after their match they probably have a several hour drive to the next town they'll have to wrestle in. Its a shitty attitude to have, but I think its easy to see how someone could develop it. On the other hand, there are probably some guys that get nervous in front of the camera and probably put on great matches without the pressure of millions of viewers.
in Bob Holly's book he said Butterbean wouldn't do a proper Brawl for All match, it had to be a properly sanctioned boxing match. the whole was skeezy as hell, Bart Gunn might have been a total geek but he didn't deserve to be beaten and sacked for making a fool of J.R's boy Williams. the whole thing was so shitty.
British Monsoon
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The whole Brawl For All thing was so stupid, a complete waste of time, all things considered. Williams should have been a huge name for WWF and was supposed to be in line for a program with Austin for the belt, but he tore his hamstring in the Brawl For All and got knocked out by Bart Gunn and that was that. The half-hearted push they gave him when he returned from injury was worthless. Dr. Death deserved better.