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[brisk tacos]

Well I don't know what wrestling you've been watching all your life.

When is the last time in WWE that someone just showed up and was portrayed as someone who doesn't work there? Anyone on the show has to be a contracted athlete. Just because not everyone gets their signing brought up on screen doesn't mean it isn't implicitly implied. They aren't random bums off the street. You're telling me that Kane debuted in full spandex and was working for free? Of course not.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

When is the last time in WWE that someone just showed up and was portrayed as someone who doesn't work there? Anyone on the show has to be a contracted athlete. Just because not everyone gets their signing brought up on screen doesn't mean it isn't implicitly implied. They aren't random bums off the street. You're telling me that Kane debuted in full spandex and was working for free? Of course not.

STANG

 

[Jimmy King]

Sting failed WCW

 

[Ithil]

When is the last time in WWE that someone just showed up and was portrayed as someone who doesn't work there? Anyone on the show has to be a contracted athlete. Just because not everyone gets their signing brought up on screen doesn't mean it isn't implicitly implied. They aren't random bums off the street. You're telling me that Kane debuted in full spandex and was working for free? Of course not.

Blue Pants, two days ago.

 

[FlammableD]

Sting, John Cena after being fired, Austin after being fired, Matt Hardy after being actually fired, I could go on.

 

[Fox318]

"Fuck you, Philly"

The people that night who got the worst boos was New Day and Roman Reigns


Now New Day is over as fuck.

I just wish they would work traditional tag matches instead of the spotfest 4 ways.

 

[brisk tacos]

STANG

Yes. And he was a vigilante.

Blue Pants, two days ago.

She has worked for them, though. She's been booked on shows to wrestle. And even then, Corey Graves pointed out how ridiculous it was that she was allowed to be there at all, not being a contracted employee and all. He pointed out exactly what I'm talking about.

People doing run ins or debuting out of the blue doesn't imply they don't work there.

Sting, John Cena after being fired, Austin after being fired, Matt Hardy after being actually fired, I could go on.

Austin and Hardy were also arrested when they showed up after being fired.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

Also, Rosa Mendes and Natalya

 

[Angry Grimace]

When is the last time in WWE that someone just showed up and was portrayed as someone who doesn't work there? Anyone on the show has to be a contracted athlete. Just because not everyone gets their signing brought up on screen doesn't mean it isn't implicitly implied. They aren't random bums off the street. You're telling me that Kane debuted in full spandex and was working for free? Of course not.

Kevin Owens

literally the last guy to show up

 

[Jimmy King]

Has everyone wished Vince a happy birthday today?

 

[Aiii]

You know Who I feel bad for? Natalya.

Tamina, Fox, Naomi, the Bella's all deserve way less to get a spot in this "divas revolution" business. I know she is not the youngest, but she damn sure is a better worker than any of those five.

 

[Ithil]

I can't believe I'm hearing someone claim that wrestlers never just show up unannounced and unexplained.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

Kevin Owens

literally the last guy to show up

The shocking debut of a man with a fully prepared theme and a titantron while holding a wwe championship.

 

[aspiegamer]

Got caught up in the weekend's stuff.

NXT Women's Championship match was incredible. If they allowed anything even half that intense on RAW the confidence in the "revolution" would go through the roof.
Jon Stewart actually did incredible considering this isn't his business. Fine promos, good improvising, played to that specific crowd.
New Day act so well. Too well. It's a shame they caught on big at the same time as PTP's reign since they're also a blast.
The Ambrose vs Reigns dichotomy was amusing to watch.
Stewart's explanation is going to have to be interesting. His son idolizes Cena.
Diva's 9-woman match was sigh and the crowd sounded dead, likely because most all of them had seen the previous night's championship match (in person or online). At least the Bellas didn't win!

The hell with Undertaker? On top of the awful booking it wasn't even executed well during the confusion. There was no announcement that match was restarting/continuing and I was assuming whatever happened during that time wouldn't count. Even the announce team was confused as hell and were all calling out different things. And the ref calls for the bell on Lesnar without a hand drop 3 count because screw those only rest holds get them or something. Plus no replays because those only happen when Teddy Long is present. So, so awful.

Unless the obvious future match is a heavy gimmick like Buried Alive there's no reason for it. Actually, please book that. It's at least -extremely- definitive. This also leaves a huge question mark on what's next for Brock, who's a big PPV draw and someone Vince paid a ton of money to to keep around. Also don't know what the plan is for the US title since Cena elevated it a lot. Might have Sheamus cheese with a cash-in and then Rollins holds it for awhile.

 

[Jimmy King]

I can't believe I'm hearing someone claim that wrestlers never just show up unannounced and unexplained.

Look at the adjective "show up"

 

[brisk tacos]

Kevin Owens

literally the last guy to show up

What, we're pretending that Kevin Owens, dude who had 2 months of hype videos and was the NXT Champion, was not a WWE employee when he showed up on Raw? I'm talking guys showing up who are portrayed as not working for WWE. Sting and somewhat Blue Pants are it for years.

 

[Ithil]

People doing run ins or debuting out of the blue doesn't imply they don't work there.

So now people can just show up out of nowhere?

 

[Angry Grimace]

The shocking debut of a man with a fully prepared theme and a titantron while holding a wwe championship.

That's...the point?

He's complaining that the girls needed someone to introduce them, despite the fact that all of them are NXT employees.

What, we're pretending that Kevin Owens, dude who had 2 months of hype videos and was the NXT Champion, was not a WWE employee when he showed up on Raw? I'm talking guys showing up who are portrayed as not working for WWE. Sting and somewhat Blue Pants are it for years.

You literally just complained that Stephanie needed to introduce the the three new wrestlers, all of which were NXT fixtures, not to mention Sasha Banks was the reigning champ and Charlotte was the former champ.

I'm really failing to understand why every wrasslin' opinion you have is just randomly disagreeing with completely obvious normal things.

 

[Fox318]

You know Who I feel bad for? Natalya.

Tamina, Fox, Naomi, the Bella's all deserve way less to get a spot in this "divas revolution" business. I know she is not the youngest, but she damn sure is a better worker than any of those five.

She still works house shows, media, and the reality show.

I can't find the link but she had an interview for summerslam where she said they don't have plans for her right now as they are trying to get the teams over.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

Lesnar also debuted (and returned) out of nowhere at first

 

[brisk tacos]

I can't believe I'm hearing someone claim that wrestlers never just show up unannounced and unexplained.

In the confines of the pro wrestling show that The Authority run, anyone wrestling is a contracted employee. People showing up with out hype does not mean they are not contracted employees. Otherwise, they would not be on the show, or at least, arrested. Even the example of Sting and Blue Pants had entrance music and videos lined up for them, so it would follow that, within the context of this show about contracted athletes performing in actual contests, they would have been hired by someone. They don't just jump into the show, because they can't even get in unless they work there.

In the past, before authority figures, did you think that guys were working for free and weren't paid, contracted athletes unless otherwise stated?

That's...the point?

He's complaining that the girls needed someone to introduce them, despite the fact that all of them are NXT employees.

You literally just complained that Stephanie needed to introduce the the three new wrestlers, all of which were NXT fixtures, not to mention Sasha Banks was the reigning champ and Charlotte was the former champ.

I'm really failing to understand why every wrasslin' opinion you have is just randomly disagreeing with completely obvious normal things.

Where did I complain about Stephanie? I'm doing the exact opposite, saying I can't believe people are complaining about Stephanie introducing them. Literally the exact opposite of what you're saying I complained about.

 

[British Monsoon]

Check it;

https://vid.me/xsxF

Jake Roberts music video from Georgia, 1983. Set to Pink Floyd, slightly surreal.

 

[Ithil]

In the confines of the pro wrestling show that The Authority run, anyone wrestling is a contracted employee. People showing up with out hype does not mean they are not contracted employees. Otherwise, they would not be on the show, or at least, arrested. Even the example of Sting and Blue Pants had entrance music and videos lined up for them, so it would follow that, within the context of this show about contracted athletes performing in actual contests, they would have been hired by someone. They don't just jump into the show, because they can't even get in unless they work there.

In the past, before authority figures, did you think that guys were working for free and weren't paid, contracted athletes unless otherwise stated?

What part of this correlates with Charlotte, Sasha and Becky apparently having to be introduced by an authority figure?
As pointed out, Kevin Owens wasn't introduced by Stephanie, he just showed up on RAW one week and that was that.

 

[Heroman]

guy, you are putting way to much thought into this.

 

[blackaroni]

guy, you are putting way to much thought into this.

Agreed. Can we get some more New Day gifs?

 

[Angry Grimace]

guy, you are putting way to much thought into this.

We're just getting trolled, actually.

 

[klonere]

What, we're pretending that Kevin Owens, dude who had 2 months of hype videos and was the NXT Champion, was not a WWE employee when he showed up on Raw? I'm talking guys showing up who are portrayed as not working for WWE. Sting and somewhat Blue Pants are it for years.

 

[brisk tacos]

What part of this correlates with Charlotte, Sasha and Becky apparently having to be introduced by an authority figure?
As pointed out, Kevin Owens wasn't introduced by Stephanie, he just showed up on RAW one week and that was that.

They didn't have to. But she did. And it is in no way a negative thing for the most powerful woman in the most powerful wrestling company to be talking up how great the women are, despite people thinking it is somehow her taking personal credit for their work.

Just like HHH did when Brock re-signed, or when Teddy Long signed MVP, or all the announcements about what Japan/Indie guy has signed and is coming to NXT/WWE. Just because those got announcements doesn't mean that Bull Dempsy didn't get signed.

 

[BronsonLee]

guy, you are putting way to much thought into this.

We're just getting trolled, actually.

Don't Feed The Taco™

 

[klonere]

We are getting worked into a frenzy friends.

 

[Heroman]

Agreed. Can we get some more New Day gifs?

 

[blackaroni]

 

[FlammableD]

They didn't have to. But she did. And it is in no way a negative thing for the most powerful woman in the most powerful wrestling company to be talking up how great the women are, despite people thinking it is somehow her taking personal credit for their work.

Just like HHH did when Brock re-signed, or when Teddy Long signed MVP, or all the announcements about what Japan/Indie guy has signed and is coming to NXT/WWE. Just because those got announcements doesn't mean that Bull Dempsy didn't get signed.

But the point is they have their own motivations for their actions and agency, THEY DON'T ALL GET FUCKING INTRODUCED BY THE PERSON IN CHARGE AS LOOK AT THIS AMAZING NEW PERSON I SIGNED IT WAS MY IDEA NOW EVERYTHING IS WONDERFUL

 

[Fox318]

Agreed. Can we get some more New Day gifs?

 

[brisk tacos]

But the point is they have their own motivations for their actions and agency, THEY DON'T ALL GET FUCKING INTRODUCED BY THE PERSON IN CHARGE AS LOOK AT THIS AMAZING NEW PERSON I SIGNED IT WAS MY IDEA NOW EVERYTHING IS WONDERFUL

All the top guys in NXT did. Besides Sami, who just showed up to work with no hype. Everyone else got the big "look at this amazing new person I signed" segment and hype. Itami, Balor, Owens, and now Crews. What separates Regal doing that with them, and Stephanie doing that with the women? In fact, Charlotte had the same thing happen on NXT even when she was an unknown.

 

[klonere]

Agreed. Can we get some more New Day gifs?

 

[avengers23]

Agreed. Can we get some more New Day gifs?

 

[FlammableD]

All the top guys in NXT did. Besides Sami, who just showed up to work with no hype. Everyone else got the big "look at this amazing new person I signed" segment and hype. Itami, Balor, Owens, and now Crews.

Were they personally introduced to the ring and ordered into sides of a feud by Triple H? No? Then it's not the same fucking thing.

 

[Angry Grimace]

brisk taco is just building that heel heat

 

[Sibersk Esto]

Is the reason all middle eastern wrestlers have the camel clutch is because it has the word "camel" in it?

 

[brisk tacos]

Were they personally introduced to the ring and ordered into sides of a feud by Triple H? No? Then it's not the same fucking thing.

Regal has had the same segments with those four in NXT and not a single person was upset about it. No one was upset when HHH had the same thing with Brock in the middle of the ring. No one was upset when Teddy Long did it with MVP. Or any other of the many times in history such a thing has happened. How is Stephanie doing it somehow the most terrible and offensive thing? I've literally never seen anyone upset by a "we just signed this person/we'd like to introduce you to" segment and I've been watching for over 30 years. All until this Stephanie segment.

 

[Bronx-Man]

We are getting worked into a frenzy friends.

This is what happens when you work a work and work yourself into a shoot.

Spoiler

marks.

 

[somedevil]

brisk taco is just building that heel heat

When he praised one specific poster it was like he didn't shake anyone hands. Now he is building up to X-pac heat levels.

 

[Bronx-Man]

Is the reason all middle eastern wrestlers have the camel clutch is because it has the word "camel" in it?

Am I going to hell for laughing at this?

 

[Angry Grimace]

You know Who I feel bad for? Natalya.

Tamina, Fox, Naomi, the Bella's all deserve way less to get a spot in this "divas revolution" business. I know she is not the youngest, but she damn sure is a better worker than any of those five.

Every division needs jobbers.

 

[Professor Beef]

I for one love this new WrestleGAF trend of "fuck it, New Day gifs" when dealing with unpleasantness.

 

[brisk tacos]

Is the reason all middle eastern wrestlers have the camel clutch is because it has the word "camel" in it?

Maybe. I mean, you could put "camel" into any move, really, but it goes along with all foreign heels using the dreaded shoulder nerve pinch.

 

[Black Republican]

yall aint gonna post that lil b / flicka da wrist new day gif tho?

 

[Angry Grimace]

Hey when I was a kid, new wrestlers would just randomly show up and beat the everloving shit out of a completely random jobber, who never was given any kind of introduction either. He was just some guy.

 

[HeisenbergLannister]

This is gonna be my reaction when Sasha wins the title.

Even more so if she throws the Divas title down and brings back the Women's title.