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[Mr. Luchador]

I think WCW Raven is my favorite midcarder of all time. His gimmick, once you kind of figure it out, is SO good. It's permanent midcard status and any thoughts that it should go further than that(and i had those when I was younger) is ridiculous, but it pretty much stamps him right below main eventers in an upper tier of mid card without ever seeming like he was some main eventer power level so that you could buy all kinds of people beating him with the right booking.

His promos were pretty solid, but they became fantastic when you realized his character wasn't the edgelord that you initially thought he was. That you kind of discover, even pre-Middle Class Raven promo, that he was a whiny manipulative asshole coward heel that played the cool heel and it threw people off. He had such a good way of getting heat with the crowds, his moveset wasn't amazing, but it was perfectly effective for this kind of character and it made his babyface opponents with more fancy movesets stand out all the more. The Flock gimmmick, the constant whining while still being an evil asshole. He was like a smart coward heel. The only real flaw was the dumb masochism gimmick they tried to get him over with initially because it didn't fit his 'actor' character. They offloaded that shit onto Vampiro later on when it didn't work.

Was that when Hak came in and you saw Raven in his house?

 

[Ninja Scooter]

They had footage of Shawn Michaels and Diesel at the 1995 and 1996 MTV Rock n Jock Softball games!

Remember Rock n Jock?

i remember dan cortese.

 

[The Mango Sentinel]

Just came back from a house show.

Main event was Kevin Owens vs Jericho in a steel cage. It was fairly entertaining.

 

[DMczaf]

i remember dan cortese.

no you dont, you googled that.

 

[Data West]

elgin's hoss bullshit called out the second he's standing near cody hall. little fucking midget.

 

[JavyOO7]

Wow, this Mack vs Cage match on Ultima Lucha is nuts.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

no you dont, you googled that.

Bullshit. Besides, you know damn well that the first result when you google "buff MTV personality from the early 90s" Eric Nies comes up first anyway.

 

[DMczaf]

Joe Rogan ‏@joerogan 53m53 minutes ago
That was the first time I ever almost cried while interviewing a fighter. @RondaRousey is something insanely special.

 

[Data West]

aaaaaand yujiro looks injured.

add him to the pile

 

[lovely ladies]

Just came back from a house show.

Main event was Kevin Owens vs Jericho in a steel cage. It was fairly entertaining.

You just missed K-Dogg, he was backstage Friday night.

 

[British Monsoon]

aaaaaand yujiro looks injured.

add him to the pile

How do you injure yourself hitting your own shitty finisher? Almost dropped Jay White on his neck as well, what a waste of space Yujiro is.

 

[DMczaf]

6) Steel cage main event - Chris Jericho beat Kevin Owens. Said to be excellent and best match of the night. Chemistry said to be awesome. Jericho wins by pin with codebreaker

Job Owens Job

 

[The Mango Sentinel]

You just missed K-Dogg, he was backstage Friday night.

Errr...wut? Do you work at the arena?

Job Owens Job

Well do they ever have a heel win in the main event at a house show?

 

[Data West]

If Tama was like 3 inches taller, I'd give him all the WWE titles.

Because that dude is clearly all natty

 

[Dental Plan]

Just came back from a house show.

Main event was Kevin Owens vs Jericho in a steel cage. It was fairly entertaining.

I was also at the house show. It was a good event. I was surprised at how loud the crowd got for Titus O'Neal.

 

[Data West]

Yoshi Hashi and Tama getting pins

what show am i watching

 

[DMczaf]

 

[bloodyroarxx]

How do you injure yourself hitting your own shitty finisher? Almost dropped Jay White on his neck as well, what a waste of space Yujiro is.

Yea at first I though Jay was DONE that looked super close.

 

[Mr. Luchador]

He needs to correct his Dog's behaviour, or just let the poor pooch in sooner.

 

[Data West]

 

[JavyOO7]

Ultima Lucha Part 1 was great. This promotion knows how to make a decent movie compared to WWE. =p

 

[Data West]

poor ibushi. tenzan is about to wreck the thing he's known for - his face

 

[British Monsoon]

LOL, Kojima you goof.

 

[Marvel]

Do I have to page Y2Kev?

lol.

 

[Data West]

Big Match Fale

 

[Data West]

oh my god that counter. that crowd.

 

[British Monsoon]

Perfect match there, what a finish. Tenzan/Ibushi was pretty good as well, played to both guy's strengths.

 

[Data West]

Who ever saw this career trajectory coming for AJ Styles

MVP ‏@The305MVP 6m6 minutes ago
Women pay money for a chance to sit & drink with Ibushi. I was shocked seeing these ladies waiting their turn to talk & drink with him.

Roman Reigns aint shit

 

[Data West]

Naito is so lazy and lethargic now that he won't even change his music to match it. Even getting him to put on the mask is too much work

 

[Black Republican]

https://instagram.com/p/52sfU9PKi1/

Good guy Titus helping out the people in need.

real mvp

 

[Data West]

MOTN probably Naito/Makabe, but Tana/YTR are always magic

 

[Marvel]

Nice fauxhawk.

 

[Zach]

Mr. America's back?

 

[Guzim]

They had footage of Shawn Michaels and Diesel at the 1995 and 1996 MTV Rock n Jock Softball games!

Remember Rock n Jock?

Did the footage have Bill Bellamy?

 

[TimeEffect]

Does anyone remember when Daniel Bryan started yessing again?

He had a slow face turn, I forget what episodes those happened

 

[RBH]

Lookin' good, DM!

 

[Fox318]

https://youtu.be/DzltiVDVb5M

 

[Guzim]

Does anyone remember when Daniel Bryan started yessing again?

He had a slow face turn, I forget what episodes those happened

I remember he did it when him and Kane won the tag team titles. But I think he really started doing it again around WrestleMania XXIX. At Mania, Team Hell No defeated Dolph and Big E, and Bryan did the yes chant. I was in that crowd, and it was awesome doing the chant with over 80,000 people.

They feuded with the Shield again afterwards which led to going back to the Yes chant fully.

 

[Marvel]

https://youtu.be/DzltiVDVb5M

killme

 

[FlammableD]

Bootaaay, explain this please

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnzFRV1LwIo

 

[slightconfuse]

 

[Frecklestein]

Cena and the Bellas meeting with a sick fan and his family. So touching

 

[Sibersk Esto]

Recent cena pictures have given me the most glorious idea for a gimmick change

 

[HeisenbergLannister]

Adam Rose and Brad Maddox as the new Billy and Chuck tag team.

Oh boy.

 

[Ithil]

I remember he did it when him and Kane won the tag team titles. But I think he really started doing it again around WrestleMania XXIX. At Mania, Team Hell No defeated Dolph and Big E, and Bryan did the yes chant. I was in that crowd, and it was awesome doing the chant with over 80,000 people.

They feuded with the Shield again afterwards which led to going back to the Yes chant fully.

 

[DMczaf]

Cena looks like Mark Hamill after the car accident.

 

[funkystudent]

Seeing Cena is casual clothes is weird.

 

[Marvel]

Seeing Cena is casual clothes is weird.

I know.

Personally I'm only really used to seeing him outside of the ring in those rad chopper suits. Weird seeing clothes that fit him.

 

[Chamber]

I wonder if that kid really asked for the Bella Twins to be there.

 

[Mengetsu]

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