BBC News said:
Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-39507350
Call Bono and tell him to go fuck himself if old.
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Aung San Suu Kyi: No ethnic cleansing of Myanmar Muslim minority
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Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-39507350
Call Bono and tell him to go fuck himself if old.
Wenger'sBakedBaguettes
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Isn't she one of the West's darlings? Not surprised
Mr. Giggles
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This is the same piece of shit that said those same minorities were randomly combusting right?
Nobel peace prize had become a joke
Nobel peace prize had become a joke
we should never have entrusted norway with it...
SolidChamp
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Fitting that The Lady was a hilarious tonal mess by that hack Luc Besson.
She got the piece of shit movie she deserved.
She got the piece of shit movie she deserved.
Chaos2Frozen
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Alternative Clensing... literally alternative cleansing...
God sake Myanmar you guys just opened up not too long ago
God sake Myanmar you guys just opened up not too long ago
hydrophilic attack
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fuck off
this is making me feel bad about the myanmar trip i did last year
this is making me feel bad about the myanmar trip i did last year
BocoDragon
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What a turn of events.
She was like Myanmar's Anne Frank a couple of years ago, peacefully confined to her home under political house arrest for decades.
I'll need to re-investigate this myself. Seems like too nuanced of an issue to be understood through one or two angry words on GAF.
Saint of Killers
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It's not ethnic cleansing because some Muslims are taking part in it.
She said words to those effect and I swear I died a little on the inside.
She said words to those effect and I swear I died a little on the inside.
Frankfurter
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Obama and the EU suddenly seem like amazing choices by the Nobel peace prize comitee.
The thing is, this is actually not out of nowhere.
JonnyDBrit
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It's not too hard to grasp really. Democracy in East and South East Asia is a very genuine issue, but it doesn't make proponents of it immune from regional biases that would otherwise seem at odds with those democratic values. Plus well, being out of power vs being in it.
Yep. It's just fucking tragic. One of Hilary Clinton's biggest achievements as sos was centered around bringing her to power. We'd probably be talking intervention level stuff if the election would have went the other way. Sometimes you never can tell, but with this and Egypt I find it really hard sometimes to say guys like kissinger are totally full of shit. You upend a military dictatorship and boom you get theocracy or fascist. Sometimes, the status quo is probably the best option--dictator or no dictator--and you getting involved is only going to lay bloody your own hands for doing so.
By all means, investigate yourself and come up with your own opinion but there's really nothing to it. Piece of shit who managed pulled to the wool over everyone's eyes.
The Independent said:
Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...e-interviewed-by-a-muslim-after-a6951941.html
hobblygobbly
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There is significant evidence and first hand witness accounts of the atrocities (murder/rape) against civilians by the army while she just sits idly and quietly by. BBC has been covering it for a long time now. There is fighting between Rohingya militants and the army, and the army retaliates by attacking civilians as well, like burning down entire villages which is filled with charred remains of civilians.
Jonah Fisher, a BBC correspondent to Burma/Myanmar has been involved in the region for over two decades, he interviewed her 22 years as well. He recently did a fact checking of her interview recently with Fergal Keane (the interview in the OP).
https://twitter.com/JonahFisherBBC/status/849846284588523520
While I agree with you that perhaps she received that prize as an accomplishment for her involvement in a specific conflict but given that the very same price was given to Obama for being a "nice person" doesn't really help with signifiyng the Nobel Peace Prize as anything more than a meaningless prize given to people to looked right in the eyes of the people. Peace prize was given to Arafat, Perez and Rabin in 1994. Arafat is still perceived as a terrorist to some and Israel is seen as an apartheid state by others. Nothing changed. Nobel Peace Prize lost its value and meaning a long time ago.
BocoDragon
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That makes me sad. I guess I've been clued out of Myanmar for the last decade. Last I checked in, even the BBC treated her like the Dalai Mandela 
If they're not to be seen as meaningless, then they have to give it to people that may later disappoint. Who knows what will happen in Colombia, even if people are optimistic now
Edit. It's a diploma and some money. All it does is have the world focus on a conflict or agency for a short while, not sure what else it should be expected to do
Chuckie
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Not really. This has been known for a while now. Although it is indeed a total contrast with the image we (or at least I) used to have of her.
Valid point. Perhaps my perception of the Nobel Peace Prize receiver is of someone who is recognised as a contributor to World Peace and it is their duty as that prize holder to uphold the values of peace for which the prize is about.
Shadowhelper
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You can commit genocide against a people if they are a minority is okay to oppress and if they are considered not aesthetically pleasing.
The UN famously shys away from using the term 'genocide' as it's a technical definition, and are fearful of using it when it is not appropriate. The UN has been calling this a genocide for around a couple years.
The sad part is while the genocide was occurring, and the Rohingya were fleeing to other countries like Thailand they were being imprisoned as slaves by Thai fisherman in numbers of tens of thousands, being beaten and raped to death as slaves. All this fish is bound for the West. We could easily pressure the Thai government to do something. But, again, they are not considered pretty, and are Muslims, and have no foreign friends. Kill away.
We also tried to play nice and ignore the genocide, while it was happening, and wooed Kyi, to get Myanmars oil.
The UN famously shys away from using the term 'genocide' as it's a technical definition, and are fearful of using it when it is not appropriate. The UN has been calling this a genocide for around a couple years.
The sad part is while the genocide was occurring, and the Rohingya were fleeing to other countries like Thailand they were being imprisoned as slaves by Thai fisherman in numbers of tens of thousands, being beaten and raped to death as slaves. All this fish is bound for the West. We could easily pressure the Thai government to do something. But, again, they are not considered pretty, and are Muslims, and have no foreign friends. Kill away.
We also tried to play nice and ignore the genocide, while it was happening, and wooed Kyi, to get Myanmars oil.
JonnyDBrit
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That makes me sad. I guess I've been clued out of Myanmar for the last decade. Last I checked in, even the BBC treated her like the Dalai Mandela
I think the example of Nelson Mandela has unfortunately skewed western perceptions of how a democratic protester turned political leader will end up. The thing is, the history of South Africa meant that Mandela emerged in and dealt with a racial context that was quite intimately familiar to a western - especially American - viewer; that of black people suffering under white supremacy. It was also an omnipresent facet of his society, and it was well known even before he was freed that would have to be addressed. Aung San Suu Kyi is acting against a minority in her country that live primarily within a few provinces that were largely removed from the political process she was engaged in, and so I think completely blindsided a lot of her western supporters.
Shadowhelper
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That makes me sad. I guess I've been clued out of Myanmar for the last decade. Last I checked in, even the BBC treated her like the Dalai Mandela
This is the saddest part. Actually the BBC did embarrass and humiliate her on hard talk, and they have been covering this, but not much.
No one is really covering it at all, and no one really cares. Almost no one I know, knows this is even happening. The media just doesn't care.
They're Muslim, don't look good in pictures, and have no friends. Our culture doesn't care as it as not humanized them, therefore our media and people also don't care.
The stories of what is happening to them, how they are being brutalized. My GF wanted to visit Myanmar, and I just said, I'd never go there at the moment. She had no idea, what I was talking about.
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