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[Rezbit]

Tassie doesn't even have Krispykreme, but lots of people here make a big deal about how awesome it is. I tried it at Melbourne airport and was DISAPPOINTED.

 

[viciouskillersquirrel]

They are krispykremes, so not that good. And this - Offer limited to the first 10,000 customers and cannot be used in conjunction with any other offer or discount. The voucher must be redeemed and surrendered instore.

I wonder how long that will take to run out.

I got some at lunchtime today (~1hr ago) and brought them back to the office. There's a lineup, but it's not that bad.

I had literally just scarfed down my donut as I posted.

 

[Choc]

Screw the economy, make everything 18+.

fixed

 

[FormallyMegadrive]

krispy kreme is overrated, expensive, and flat out terrible. Fuck krispy kreme.

 

[Choc]

My reason for wanting to get rid of MA15+ if an R18+ is passed is that it will provide a crisper delineation between adults-only games and games that are for children


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


a politician with a brain, well i never

 

[Kritz]

wots a kritzy cream

 

[codswallop]

So effectively G, PG, M and R. I guess it's an issue of granularity- the M rating is still only a suggestion for parents and has no legal restrictions at the sales counter.

Making the ratings different to film ratings is in my eyes a stupid idea anyway. They should be the same, because the government has already spent the time and money getting people to understand how that system works.

Now they want to make it different when they have the opportunity to make it the same, and thus easier? Woo government.

 

[Choc]

guys

it is now a full blown classification review. Not just video games. They want to change the entire system.

This is good, why?

If they start to f around to much then the pain they will feel is much bigger from the public. If movies start to get a raw deal people will go bananas. Just compare media and public reaction to when ken park was banned to Aliens vs Predator game for example.

As well as this, MA15+ goes for games it will go for films.

So on the one hand you will have the game companies fighting like buggery to get R18 and then film companies fighting to keep MA15

its all FUCKED

 

[Gazunta]

Can't stand those donuts. Too sweet and rich and huge.

Spoiler

and this coming from a fat guy!

 

[pilonv1]

guys

it is now a full blown classification review. Not just video games. They want to change the entire system.

This is the easiest way to appease both parties for politicians, full review appeals to the anti R-18 crew because it will take time and the pro R-18 are happy anything is being done.

I doubt anything will happen in the next 2-3 years minimum.

 

[Omikron]

So effectively G, PG, M and R. I guess it's an issue of granularity- the M rating is still only a suggestion for parents and has no legal restrictions at the sales counter.

I don't think I agree with this... while MA is a bit of a weird one, getting rid of it for the sake of an R seems to make little sense and would just result all the games/movies etc get shifted to the R category, which isn't the whole aim of this process you would have thought.


But, what do I know, I am not a politician.

 

[FormallyMegadrive]

after reading legend's posts about binge drinking, i must've been the only one with peers who didn't care if you drank or not. It was definitely a live and let live type of deal. Yay private schools!

 

[MrSerrels]

guys

it is now a full blown classification review. Not just video games. They want to change the entire system.

This is good, why?

If they start to f around to much then the pain they will feel is much bigger from the public. If movies start to get a raw deal people will go bananas. Just compare media and public reaction to when ken park was banned to Aliens vs Predator game for example.

As well as this, MA15+ goes for games it will go for films.

So on the one hand you will have the game companies fighting like buggery to get R18 and then film companies fighting to keep MA15

its all FUCKED

It's like you read my mind, and wrote it up with minimal punctuation. :lol

This is pretty much right on the money.

 

[Omikron]

after reading legend's posts about binge drinking, i must've been the only one with peers who didn't care if you drank or not. It was definitely a live and let live type of deal. Yay private schools!

Meh, you aren't the only one, I had my fair share of binge drinking sessions, but I also had sane friends as well, we didn't care if someone didn't want a drink etc. Oh and public school system to top it off.

 

[Fredescu]

If you have G, PG, M, MA15+, and R18+, doesn't it look a little congested in the middle? PEGI has 12, 16, 18, ESRB has 10, 13, 17, 18. We have 15, and a different kind of 15.

 

[Agyar]

It's like you read my mind, and wrote it up with minimal punctuation. :lol

Polf.

Also this thing is fucked, I wrote a whole post about it earlier when it hit Twitter and then just closed the tab. Typing out long-winded stuff in this thread about the classification debate is just preaching to the choir. Needless to say, I believe this move is a veiled attempt at muddying the debate and making any potential change unnecessarily painful. This is change resistance 101 and these politicians are no stranger to such tactics.

 

[Kritz]

So I'm thinking on Friday I change the wallpaper of all the itlab computers to be a giant longcat.

Thoughts?

 

[Choc]

Serrells three article ideas (you didnt do the last one, but thats cool)

1. An article on games released in 2010 that would have likely received R18 had it been available

2. Explanation of the current classification system and explaining the differences between the different classifications

hardly anyone understands in video game terms what is different between M15 and MA15 in terms of whats allowed in each category. I understand because i did the classification training a while back (i also did an assignment on the classification system of Australia @ university for communications and marketing with the summary that the economic impact of not having an R18 classification will eventually mean that it will become inevitable that we will have one, its turning out rather well so far i would say...)

3. Perhaps an article on the process of classifying an game and how significantly different it is when M and MA15 is involved.

Quick tip. M games are allowed to be self certified by the games publisher themselves. MA15 must front the board (the publisher takes a guess as to what it would fit in)

For some insane reason Rockstar self rated GTA 3 M15+ and hence released it. Then the OFLC found out and went a bit nuts

 

[giri]

after reading legend's posts about binge drinking, i must've been the only one with peers who didn't care if you drank or not. It was definitely a live and let live type of deal. Yay private schools!

Not just you. It still seems like an odd thing to care about.

Having a woman who doesn't drink would be great, automatic DD!!

 

[jambo]

We would jokingly josh someone about not drinking, but we didn't actually mean it and it's understandable if people were working the next day or simply didn't want to drink that night. I had a few nights where I didn't want to.


Also DD's come in handy!

 

[remz]

Wonder what'll happen with L4D2. It's pretty much the only game that's run into trouble with the ratings board that I care about.

 

[evlcookie]

I love tourists and summer. Stunning blonde out the front using a mac to research something. So goood

 

[Dead Man]

So effectively G, PG, M and R. I guess it's an issue of granularity- the M rating is still only a suggestion for parents and has no legal restrictions at the sales counter.

Yeah, his language comes across as a bit paranoid, but the base proposal is fine, I think.\

Making the ratings different to film ratings is in my eyes a stupid idea anyway. They should be the same, because the government has already spent the time and money getting people to understand how that system works.

Now they want to make it different when they have the opportunity to make it the same, and thus easier? Woo government.

I think MA15 is a bit redundant, personally, so it could go for movies too. We lives without it for years, it was only introduced after the M rating had been around for ages. If I am remembering correctly...

guys

it is now a full blown classification review. Not just video games. They want to change the entire system.

This is good, why?

If they start to f around to much then the pain they will feel is much bigger from the public. If movies start to get a raw deal people will go bananas. Just compare media and public reaction to when ken park was banned to Aliens vs Predator game for example.

As well as this, MA15+ goes for games it will go for films.

So on the one hand you will have the game companies fighting like buggery to get R18 and then film companies fighting to keep MA15

its all FUCKED

Ah. Good and bad. Film companies will win, they have a lot more money and influence.

 

[Choc]

So I'm thinking on Friday I change the wallpaper of all the itlab computers to be a giant longcat.

Thoughts?

 

[jambo]

I just applied for leave... in 2011

Fucking future up in this.

 

[Kritz]

... okay, what if I change the windows startup sound on all the computers in the school to the power ranger's theme?

 

[Gazunta]

Make all the computers boot into a C64 emulator and make those kids learn some REAL COMPUTING.

 

[Salazar]

Can't stand those donuts. Too sweet and rich and huge.

Spoiler

and this coming from a fat guy!

Scone with jam and clotted cream.

When I eat a donut, I dream of a scone with jam and clotted cream. Eating a donut is like cheating on a beautiful wife with a broken sex-robot.

 

[jambo]

Scones with Vegemite, om nom nom

EDIT: Work kills me sometimes. I'm burning some copies of a DVD. I check to see what it is... 3 Excel files

-_-

 

[fappenmeister]

I am a massive fan of scones with a bit of butter. Oh so good.

Jam and clotted cream with a dusting of icing sugar on the top is fantastic too.

Fuck you guys I want scones now.

 

[viciouskillersquirrel]

I have a confession to make.

I don't see the point of cream and jam disgusts me.

 

[Bernbaum]

Scones with Vegemite, om nom nom

What is this? What have you done? Why have I immediately planned to try this tomorrow?

 

[Salazar]

I have a confession to make.

I don't see the point of cream and jam disgusts me.

Clotted cream - dense, cold, abundant - is the only cream worth having. I don't understand your objection to jam.

 

[Clipper]

What is this? What have you done? Why have I immediately planned to try this tomorrow?

Why have you never thought of it before? It's a beautiful combination.

 

[Shaneus]

Scones with Vegemite, om nom nom

EDIT: Work kills me sometimes. I'm burning some copies of a DVD. I check to see what it is... 3 Excel files

-_-

Holy shit, idea: Vegemite on PUMPKIN scones. Wow.

Almost makes me wanna bake.

 

[Ydahs]

Anyone here have a 3DTV? Might buy the Sony KDL40NX710 which comes with a PS3 and GT5, two movies and two 3D glasses for $1900, with my sister paying half and my brothers and I paying the other half. We keep the new 3DTV, they get our HDTV and the included PS3.

All impressions suggest that this model has excellent 3D quality and we're getting it for half the price...

Sounds good?

 

[Yagharek]

On the topic of OFLC/classification: the current debate is a bit of a furphy. The real issue is why we have a censorship board.

Classification should be about advice, not instruction of what you are allowed to watch.

The whole ratings system is fucked, from G through to X. The main offender of course being RC and ACMA.

DOWN WITH ACRONYMS

 

[Ydahs]

We have an X rating? I thought R was the highest.

 

[Shaneus]

We have an X rating? I thought R was the highest.

You need to go on a road trip to Canberra (I think... it's that rumour you always hear about from people who head there... fireworks and porn :lol)

 

[Choc]

We have an X rating? I thought R was the highest.

X exists. Only allowed to be sold @ retail in canberra

can be sold anywhere online

 

[Salazar]

You need to go on a road trip to Canberra (I think... it's that rumour you always hear about from people who head there... fireworks and porn :lol)

I had a narrow escape - almost went on a civil service orientation thingo. It is nice to think that I would have picked up some porn while I was gathering speed on the bureaucratic mediocrity slippery-dip.

 

[Scrow]

krispy kreme original glaze donuts are amazing. warm them in the microwave for 20 seconds. absolute bliss.

 

[jambo]

God dammit Fallout is taking over my gaming life.

 

[MrSerrels]

Serrells three article ideas (you didnt do the last one, but thats cool)

1. An article on games released in 2010 that would have likely received R18 had it been available

2. Explanation of the current classification system and explaining the differences between the different classifications

hardly anyone understands in video game terms what is different between M15 and MA15 in terms of whats allowed in each category. I understand because i did the classification training a while back (i also did an assignment on the classification system of Australia @ university for communications and marketing with the summary that the economic impact of not having an R18 classification will eventually mean that it will become inevitable that we will have one, its turning out rather well so far i would say...)

3. Perhaps an article on the process of classifying an game and how significantly different it is when M and MA15 is involved.

Quick tip. M games are allowed to be self certified by the games publisher themselves. MA15 must front the board (the publisher takes a guess as to what it would fit in)

For some insane reason Rockstar self rated GTA 3 M15+ and hence released it. Then the OFLC found out and went a bit nuts

I was all set to do the last idea you had, but I just didn't have the time. It was going to be a tricky one to write.

I'm working on a feature now about R18+ - basically about the new guidelines, and how they need to evolve to represent new media - online games being the big problem. The Australian Gov as a whole thinks they have the resources to classify everything, but they don't. This is going to be the big issue when it comes to the new guidelines.

 

[Choc]

Spot on Serrels which is why in the US its self regulated


If they want to classify every app store game etc, 500 censors required AT LEAST and then a budget blowout and then the public will crack it

common sense needs to prevail on this, it really does.

 

[evlcookie]

No wonder why EA can't put out any decent games. Chocs too busy raging about R18.

Get back to work!

 

[Omikron]

No wonder why EA can't put out any decent games. Chocs too busy raging about R18.

Get back to work!

I know why he is not in development anymore, prefers the easy road of 0 work. :lol

 

[codswallop]

Where the hell's Syndicate already? Can we blame Choc?

 

[Shaneus]

Hey guys! 250gb 360 drive on Catch of the Day for $99 for the next two hours or so! $25 off if you use the code XBOXMAX at checkout, too.

I didn't need it, but that's damn cheap for an official 360 drive (including all transfer cables, discs etc.) so I bought one :lol

 

[Agyar]

Hey guys! 250gb 360 drive on Catch of the Day for $99 for the next two hours or so! $25 off if you use the code XBOXMAX at checkout, too.

I didn't need it, but that's damn cheap for an official 360 drive (including all transfer cables, discs etc.) so I bought one :lol

Thanks for the heads up, I ordered one. The upgrade from my 120GB to 250GB is not as dire as when I had a 20GB drive but for the price it's hard to say no. Will be an even cheaper upgrade if I can on-sell my 120GB for $50 or something.