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AusGAF 2.0 - Twice the price, a year late but still moving forward

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Fredescu

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Planet_JASE said:
Then the day after that it could mean someone's life. Or one of our states could catch fire. Or perhaps the whole country explodes.
Do you go through a lot of keyboards?

Planet_JASE said:
Or perhaps the guys that sets the price and has nothing to do with online security made an error.
In a large organisation the guy that "sets" the price is usually a different person to the guy that physically updates the website. To make a change and not check your work is sloppiness in the extreme. Making a similar error that results in customer data being uncovered is not the huge leap you're suggesting. Fire the guy? Okay, maybe not, but you can bet there will be a "process review" that makes that guys job a bit less free than it used to be.
 
Ummmmmmm... why would my Wii's drive bay be glowing but the system isn't outputting any video signal? I just walked past the unit and saw the blue lights but I haven't turned it on in a while.

Is it lonely and just trying for a bit of attention?

Fredescu said:
Do you go through a lot of keyboards?

I tend to either go around them or step over them. Are you thinking of doorways?

Fredescu said:
Making a similar error that results in customer data being uncovered is not the huge leap you're suggesting.

I wasn't suggesting it was. But I don't know for certain that it's the same person. You were alluding to the fact that it was.

Fredescu said:
Fire the guy? Okay, maybe not, but you can bet there will be a "process review" that makes that guys job a bit less free than it used to be.

I'm all for there being a process review. You would like to think that updates like this went through at least two sets of eyes so that that this could be avoided.
 
codswallop said:
I really do love http://theagevsheraldsun.tumblr.com/

I don't think someone should be fired for the Ubisoft pricing screw up at all. That person should now be put in charge of investigating and writing a long, boring report about the possible flaws and shortcomings in their system and how to prevent it again. Punishment of sorts with a positive outcome. I'm sure they already feel bad enough about it.

I considered grabbing a few games but then realised that not only would I never play them, I'd feel guilty for getting them when I knew it was immoral to do so. Ubisoft might not be out much (seems like most were grabbing stuff they wouldn't have bought anyway), but biting the hand that feeds you as a gamer seems like the wrong thing to do.
You would never do well in management. Much too intelligent. First rule of Management = fire at will, appease the shareholders/peers wrath.

From what I know of businesses, they never see it that way, though. They'll see every key as a potential lost sale.
Yup they will put it down in the Pirate column rather than, "Gee people seem to like cheap games, maybe we should run a promo?".
 
Planet_JASE said:
Ummmmmmm... why would my Wii's drive bay be glowing but the system isn't outputting any video signal? I just walked past the unit and saw the blue lights but I haven't turned it on in a while.

Is it lonely and just trying for a bit of attention?
It's trying to tell you to download Dolphin and give it a rest. It wants to hibernate for winter. That is also the reason your non-perishable goods have gone missing. They are in its cave.
 

Fredescu

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reptilescorpio said:
First rule of Management = fire at will, appease the shareholders/peers wrath.
That's not really true in Australia. You have to jump through a lot of hoops to actually sack someone for performance reasons.
 
Fredescu said:
That's not really true in Australia. You have to jump through a lot of hoops to actually sack someone for performance reasons.
Indeed that is true, if you an paint a target on someone though I have noticed you can clear them out incredibly fast. Unfortunately the incompetent ones tend to avoid responsibility which leaves the good workers taking on too much and occasionally making a mistake, leading upper management to need a scapegoat regardless of their worth.

codswallop said:
I'm sure the people I'm responsible for managing think the same thing on a day-to-day basis.
Actually I wish you were my boss with that earlier reasoning. Learning from mistakes is certainly better than someone else repeating it.

Kritz said:
Kitty DA2
Get him to review Alan Wake!
 

Fredescu

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Planet_JASE said:
I wasn't suggesting it was
Planet_JASE said:
Then the day after that it could mean someone's life. Or one of our states could catch fire. Or perhaps the whole country explodes. Maybe the world is turned inside-out and the mole men become the ones ruling the surface world.
Yeah, you were.
 

Clipper

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Planet_JASE said:
Ummmmmmm... why would my Wii's drive bay be glowing but the system isn't outputting any video signal? I just walked past the unit and saw the blue lights but I haven't turned it on in a while.
You probably received a message from Nintendo. Turn it on and check the Wii Message board to read it.
 
Clipper said:
You probably received a message from Nintendo. Turn it on and check the Wii Message board to read it.

Thanks, Clipper!

Fredescu said:
Some people are clever enough to combine humour with intent. If you're not, I apologise for the misunderstanding.

So you're conceding the point, then?
 

Fredescu

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Planet_JASE said:
So you're conceding the point, then?
I concede that you were making a joke and weren't seriously suggesting that it's a big logical leap from one website data error to another. Certainly not as big a leap as website data error to death.
 

Ydahs

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App has finally been submitted. Five days after schedule from the stupid stupid memory leaks encountered :(

I guess I learned my lesson for the next time I develop using such a programming language.
 
Ydahs said:
App has finally been submitted. Five days after schedule from the stupid stupid memory leaks encountered :(

I guess I learned my lesson for the next time I develop using such a programming language.
Congrats! Hopefully it doesn't take months for Apple to get back to you. Should be an amazing feeling to see it up on the store for all to download.
 

Salazar

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Looking forward to catching up on film releases on my flight on Monday.

Haven't been to the cinema in ages, so this works out well for me.
 
Danoss said:
At least when we walloped you in the trials, we didn't have the ref carry us to the tryline.

Our offence was woeful tonight, however.

Trials are trials (specially when you have half strength on), also it seems you didn't have much defence either :p

Also Hayne needs to calm down.
 

Danoss

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untoldhero said:
Trials are trials (specially when you have half strength on), also it seems you didn't have much defence either :p

Also Hayne needs to calm down.
Actually, our defense was pretty solid considering. Our offense is what let us down by not getting us in a decent field position often enough.

The Panthers honestly didn't play that well, the Eels were just especially bad.
 
The Australian PSN now has an option to donate (from $5 to $35) to the Red Cross to help with the Japanese relief effort, you also get a cool theme along with an easy way to donate some money that you probably had sitting around in your PSN wallet.

So JB are selling SC2 for $70. You think I should finally buy it?
Do you like Starcraft? Would you spend many hours online? I like Starcraft but don't play anywhere near enough to enjoy playing online.

In gaming talk. Deus Ex is no longer an exciting product.
That is a lie and you know it. Aside from the item highlighting and gold filter I'm not sure what anyone who loved the first game could complain about after the gameplay reveals last week.
 

Danoss

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legend166 said:
So JB are selling SC2 for $70. You think I should finally buy it?
If you loved SC1, then yes, go for it.

SC2 hasn't really taken any steps forward or done anything interesting. That said, I'm terrible at RTS games in general, though SC2 is rather interesting to watch.
 
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Deleted member 30609

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Danoss said:
SC2 hasn't really taken any steps forward or done anything interesting.
whoa, whoa, whoa. hold on just a minute there.

play the SC1 campaign and then playing the SC2 campaign and THEN tell me they haven't done anything interesting or new with a straight face
 

evlcookie

but ever so delicious
Omi said:
In gaming talk. Deus Ex is no longer an exciting product.

After that 8 minute demo?

I haven't been following it all that much, a few screenshots and basic footage here and there but that 8 minutes of footage didn't interest me at all. The yellow outlining of the items you can use didn't turn me off, It was just the level design and what they were showing off that bored me.

When she said our awesome level design is awesome, That's when i felt like i was being pulled out of the game, the "immersion (oh god)" was then broken. I'm glad you have given me three options for this particular section but they are forced options. Forced options are now starting to piss me off in games, You can be stealthy if you go this way or gun this way or lets hit the roof and do fuck all.

I wish open world games were really more of a realistic sandbox. Assassins creed did a good job of that but still fucked it up when you actually had an objective, like shoving you down a specific path most of the time. I wanted it to feel more real, where i can wait and stalk my prey, following him around the place as he does his daily choirs. Not standing up high watching him walk around in circles while an invisible timer goes off forcing me to make my move. I'm an assassin, I should have options.

The same rules apply to deus ex, By simply saying you have awesome level design it pulls me out of this world you have created. The world should be at my fingertips, If it looks like i can climb it then let me do so, Don't setup specific areas that are designed to facilitate that, They stick out like a sore thumb.

But that's just me and we all know how bad my taste is! So this game will clearly be super awesome 10/10 5/5 stars kritz.net
 
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it was one of the first missions in the game. you can't expect to give you a toolset that facilitates jumping over anything and then expect to be able to impose any reasonable limitations on the player in regard to world size and borders, because suddenly you're dealing with invisible walls or arbitrary walls you can't jump over. I'd rather a consistent and limited set of options rather than a greatly expanded set of options and an inconsistent way of playing with them. They aren't making an open-world game, they're making a level-based game with many options, and it looks like they're, if nothing else, trying something people haven't touched in a long-ass time, so good for them.
 

Scrow

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Rez said:
whoa, whoa, whoa. hold on just a minute there.

play the SC1 campaign and then playing the SC2 campaign and THEN tell me they haven't done anything interesting or new with a straight face
gameplay wise they had some interesting scenarios within the limits of the RTS genre, but nothing really revolutionary. certainly they've improved, but it's not a huge leap forward.

my biggest gripe was the storytelling. pretty awful really. they tried for the epic hollywood blockbuster (set in space), and it came up very short. felt cheesy and forced. nothing engaging about it.
 

Danoss

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Rez said:
play the SC1 campaign and then playing the SC2 campaign and THEN tell me they haven't done anything interesting or new with a straight face
Can't get past the horrendously awkward controls to go far enough.

The missions I have played are standard fare.

Are there many different missions other than:
  • Escort X
  • Defend X
  • Go from here to there destroying X number of X's along the way
  • Build X number of X's and assault X
  • Anything else that hadn't already been done in SC1 or Broodwar
?
 
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Deleted member 30609

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everything about their story and characters is irredeemably awful, yes.

I don't think the campaign is anything particularly life-changing, it's just a damn good campaign with a really solid difficulty curve and amount of in-mission variety.

to call it 'more of the same' or 'uninteresting' is doing the whole product a giant disservice.
 
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Deleted member 30609

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Danoss said:
Can't get past the horrendously awkward controls to go far enough.
to be fair -- and I'm not being aggressive or bitchy here, just completely to the point -- if you don't have the fundamental skills to even control an RTS, I have to question your faculty to understand what it is about an RTS that makes it interesting to someone who plays them. (Or recommend them to others, for that matter.)
 

Danoss

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Rez said:
to be fair -- and I'm not being aggressive or bitchy here, just completely to the point -- if you don't have the fundamental skills to even control an RTS, I have to question your faculty to understand what it is about an RTS that makes it interesting to someone who plays them. (Or recommend them to others, for that matter.)
Before you question my ability to control the game or whether or not you think I have a "right" to recommend a game of the genre or not, try re-reading my original response to legend166's post.
 

evlcookie

but ever so delicious
Everyone should step the fuck outside tonight since it's a supermoon, The first since 1993.

If you have any decent cameras by all means takes some pictures of the bright beast and post them!
 
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Danoss said:
Before you question my ability to control the game or whether or not you think I have a "right" to recommend a game of the genre or not, try re-reading my original response to legend166's post.
I'm not saying you don't have the right, I'm just questioning your decision to decide that something "isn't taking any steps forward" or "isn't particularly interesting" when it might as well be a novel written in a foreign language to you.

But type what you want, my friend.
 

Danoss

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Thanks for the heads up evl. Been staying inside watching ordinary games of footy. Hopefully light pollution isn't so bad it ruins any chance of a good shot.
 

Danoss

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Rez said:
I'm not saying you don't have the right, I'm just questioning your decision to decide that something "isn't taking any steps forward" or "isn't particularly interesting" when it might as well be a novel written in a foreign language to you.

But type what you want, my friend.
That's fine. If you didn't read my original post, then I shall question your reading comprehension skills.
 

legend166

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evlcookie said:


That's the US version.



Some back story - I was a huge Starcraft 1 guy. But not competitively. I played the campaign, skirmishes, custom games, and every now and again competitive games with some dudes on another message board. The best way to describe how I played SC - I played no rush games. I just enjoyed massing carriers or battleships and going at it. I was super excited for Starcraft 2.....until the whole region locking fiasco. Once that happened, I said I've never buy the game until they got rid of it.

Plus, the massive focus on e-sports just really, really turned me off the game. I don't care about e-sports. I barely care about ladder games. It seems as though that was the number 1 focus for Blizzard, to the determent of the way I played the game (and honestly, I reckon that's how most people played the game outside of Korea).

How's the community for stuff like that? Are there good custom maps? Stupid maps with unlimited minerals? Can you even do no rush games (I remember reading that you can name your own custom games)?
 

evlcookie

but ever so delicious
legend166 said:
That's the US version.

It's the same isn't it? We fall under the US side and we can use both servers, US and SEA.

Edit oh wait. We need the SEA version for US servers but US guys can't use SEA servers. I think that's how it works right? Forgot about that.
 
evlcookie said:
Everyone should step the fuck outside tonight since it's a supermoon, The first since 1993.

If you have any decent cameras by all means takes some pictures of the bright beast and post them!
Somebody put some pics up so I don't' have to go outside! Really need to finish some games off while the spawn is asleep, this has been the worst 12 months for backlogs.
 
legend166 said:
Some back story - I was a huge Starcraft 1 guy. But not competitively. I played the campaign, skirmishes, custom games, and every now and again competitive games with some dudes on another message board. The best way to describe how I played SC - I played no rush games. I just enjoyed massing carriers or battleships and going at it. I was super excited for Starcraft 2.....until the whole region locking fiasco. Once that happened, I said I've never buy the game until they got rid of it.

Plus, the massive focus on e-sports just really, really turned me off the game. I don't care about e-sports. I barely care about ladder games. It seems as though that was the number 1 focus for Blizzard, to the determent of the way I played the game (and honestly, I reckon that's how most people played the game outside of Korea).

How's the community for stuff like that? Are there good custom maps? Stupid maps with unlimited minerals? Can you even do no rush games (I remember reading that you can name your own custom games)?

There are some good customs games but they can be hard to find. I'd suggest asking in the SC2 thread, there is probably a few people in there who can recommend a few good ones.

On the campaign i personally hated it with a passion. I loved the story in SC1 and SC2 just ruined it. I barely managed to force myself through it once and i don't intend to go back.
 
evlcookie said:
Assassins creed did a good job of that but still fucked it up when you actually had an objective, like shoving you down a specific path most of the time. I wanted it to feel more real, where i can wait and stalk my prey, following him around the place as he does his daily choirs. Not standing up high watching him walk around in circles while an invisible timer goes off forcing me to make my move. I'm an assassin, I should have options.
The first Assassin's Creed was pretty good for this kind of stuff, actually.

The missions everyone said were boring gave you information on guard positions, escape routes, best hit locations etc. It missed on a few points but the information gathering missions actually gave you enough information to perform the assassination if you paid attention. As a gameplay element they weren't the most enjoyable but I still think it was the most immersive of the series.
 
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