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AusGAF 3.0 - Double the price, region locked and refused classification

endlessflood said:
There should be a list of people at the back of the book sorted by House to help you get through it.
BanShunsaku said:
I'm assuming due to the 4% comment that you are reading on a kindle or similar ebook.

Bookmark the glossary/house guide thing at the end (carefully avoiding reading the last page of course!) and use that as a reference when you need to... I know I did!
Thanks for the tips, endlessflood and BanShunsaku. I had no idea that there was a guide at the back of the book. Possibly the only downfall of the Kindle that I've encountered, then: not having the physical book, which I'd usually see something like an appendix through general use.

Ban, how do you easily flip between a bookmark and the page that you're currently reading. Make a bookmark, go to it and then press back?
 

Clipper

Member
On the whole drug thing and ratings, it's not JUST the name. If said drug were seen to be realistically injected or snorted or whatever, it would be still refused classification (due to showing the methods for taking drugs, which is covered under drug use).

For things like Med-X, you don't know that it's a drug and it's not immediately obvious how it provides its benefits. Unless you have a bunch of junkies overdosing on it, or it shows you taking the drug in a manner that clearly shows it must be an illegal substance, then it's unidentifiable as a real world drug, provided it doesn't share a name.
 

Aon

Member
I recommended watching one episode of the series to just get some faces to put to names. Then just read the book. Worked pretty well for me.
 
Clipper said:
On the whole drug thing and ratings, it's not JUST the name. If said drug were seen to be realistically injected or snorted or whatever, it would be still refused classification (due to showing the methods for taking drugs, which is covered under drug use).

For things like Med-X, you don't know that it's a drug and it's not immediately obvious how it provides its benefits. Unless you have a bunch of junkies overdosing on it, or it shows you taking the drug in a manner that clearly shows it must be an illegal substance, then it's unidentifiable as a real world drug, provided it doesn't share a name.
Video Games: the new gateway drug.
 

Fredescu

Member
Clipper said:
On the whole drug thing and ratings, it's not JUST the name. If said drug were seen to be realistically injected or snorted or whatever, it would be still refused classification (due to showing the methods for taking drugs, which is covered under drug use).
Bioshock was fairly graphic in it's depiction of injection wasn't it?
 

jambo

Member
Clipper said:
On the whole drug thing and ratings, it's not JUST the name. If said drug were seen to be realistically injected or snorted or whatever, it would be still refused classification (due to showing the methods for taking drugs, which is covered under drug use).

What about all of the cut scenes in GTA IV that had people snorting coke, smoking weed and doing other shit?
 
Planet_JASE said:
Ban, how do you easily flip between a bookmark and the page that you're currently reading. Make a bookmark, go to it and then press back?

From memory, hit menu > view notes and marks > click on your bookmark.

When you are done reading your bookmarked pages just hit the back button and it should take you back to the page you were on.

Edit: So yeh, pretty much exactly what you said! :)
 

Clipper

Member
Fredescu said:
Bioshock was fairly graphic in it's depiction of injection wasn't it?
This is a way of skirting around the issue I guess. It's probably too over the top to be considered an example of how to inject drugs. If it were performing real-life actions like swabbing the area or finding veins or whatever you actually need to do with that stuff (I don't really know and don't have much desire to find out), then it would fall under those rules.

I believe this is why there's so much trouble with Risen. Even if they did change the name to not include 'weed', the amount of stuff in the game involving preparation and smoking of said 'weed' is too close to the real life action to make it acceptable under the classification guidelines.
 

Fredescu

Member
Clipper said:
I believe this is why there's so much trouble with Risen. Even if they did change the name to not include 'weed', the amount of stuff in the game involving preparation and smoking of said 'weed' is too close to the real life action to make it acceptable under the classification guidelines.
You combine the weed and a pipe in your inventory iirc. It's very video gamey. There is a usable hookah pipe in the game too, but those are more associated with flavoured tobaccos than illegal drugs.
 

Kritz

Banned
Finished Game of thrones last night, good read. I'm also capped for the day, so figured I'd go out and buy Clash of Kings. I'm not super fond of this high fantasy bullshit, but I'll stick with it.

Brink and witcher still MIA. Tasmania tax indeed.
 

senahorse

Member
Kritz said:
Finished Game of thrones last night, good read. I'm also capped for the day, so figured I'd go out and buy Clash of Kings. I'm not super fond of this high fantasy bullshit, but I'll stick with it.

Brink and witcher still MIA. Tasmania tax indeed.

It will come by tomorrow afternoon.
 

Madrical

Banned
Thanks for the advice on speakers. I think I'll look at picking up a ~$1000 receiver and a ~$2000 2.1 setup. As I said, it's for my room, which obviously isn't very big so there isn't much point in getting 5.1. Just need to decide what brand to look at.

Either that or save some cash and upgrade my headphones. Currently have a studio quality pair I bought for $300 nearly 3 years ago now when I was doing my music production course.
 
Madrical said:
Either that or save some cash and upgrade my headphones.
Are you living with parents or others who 90% of the time will object to loud speakers? Not going to move out soon? If so, a sweet pair of headphones might be a better bet.
 

legend166

Member
Packing my suitcase.

15kg/20kg and it's almost full.

I really should have gone out and paid for some nice, lightweight case. The one I'm using is some old crappy thing.
 
legend166 said:
Packing my suitcase.

15kg/20kg and it's almost full.
The old rule of thumb is lay out all your stuff, and take half of it.

Seriously, 2-3 pairs of pants max is all you need. Since you're travelling to Europe in summer, you probably only need one pair of pants. 3 t-shirts is enough as well. If you're planning on going out, swap one of the t-shirts for a dressier shirt.
 

Bernbaum

Member
Yeah, fuck pants.

When I was working drill rigs I could get by for 1-2 months out in the Boonies on 15kg of luggage, steelcap safety boots included. Overpacking is a rookie mistake.
 
jambo said:
Ever thought about buying a CD wallet? You could alphabetise the films to make it easy to find them.

No, I haven't. That might be a idea. (I already have my films alphabetised though :) )

Choc said:
bloody QLD colleague wankers on email

A QLDR and a new south welshman were sitting at the pub with their dogs. The Queenslander says, “My Dog is so clever, when ever Queensland wins the Origin, he does a backflip and grabs me a beer from the fridge!”, NSWer responds, “Wow that’s great, what does he do when NSW wins?”, QLDer replies “I dunno, I ‘ve only had him 5 years”….


i'll admit, i laughed.

I was expecting a joel monaghan line.
 
some weight/ space saving tricks I use (since I mostly need to bring stuff back). It requires you to be able to treat some stuff as disposable

-take toiletries that are nearly used up and leave behind (or better still, get them whereever you are and leave them behind)

-great way to get rid of old shoes and clothes. take them for the trip (like older underpants, socks, jeans, t shirts that I'm ready to throw out), give them a last wear, then dump them. (ok- so maybe I have accumulated more clothes than a 20-year old). If you plan on buying clothes there, you can also wear these on the trip and save on laundry (despite the fact you should usually wash new clothes before wearing)

-Never bring magazines back if you're struggling with your stuff. E3 goers take note since they give lots of mags away there.

-Pad/tablet instead of laptop if you're going somewhere with good wifi coverage. Wifi coverage is excellent everywhere in the world except for room 1008 in the Library Hotel in New York City. Fuckers

-If you have lots of electronic gear. Get one adapter for wherever you're going, then take a really cheap 4-way powerboard with you from here and discard when you leave. Make sure you have the power cables, though there are always stores like Radio Shack, Tandy, etc

-have a collapsible sports bag (ie a real cheapo) in your luggage in case you need the extra space on the way back.

-don't buy books and DVD's in the US or the UK. They're still cheaper to get from amazon shipped to your door.

-Don't take six pairs of shoes.

-sometimes its better to get a cheap pre-paid phone and use that for calls where you are, maybe skype when you have wifi available

-Wear your heaviest coat, shoes on the plane. Yes you will be carrying it but they weigh your check-in luggage and sometimes your carry-on, but not your clothes. besides, planes are always cold. You will be taking those shoes off a lot though when you go through airports

-also these rules don't apply to women. They NEED all of that stuff.

-Pacsafe gear is awesome if you're paranoid. ditching the camera strap with "CANON" in large letters isn't a bad idea.

-Tip people if that's the custom.

-do some research (lonely Planet, rough guides, etc)

Your (air) mileage may vary
 

Bernbaum

Member
Good advice Clive.

Consider uglifying your camera.

I pre-emptively uglified my D60 by dropping it on my shoe and kicking it along the ground like a fucking spastic, snapping the built-in flash rendering it useless and now no-one in their right mind will want to steal it.
 

Choc

Banned
jambo said:
What about all of the cut scenes in GTA IV that had people snorting coke, smoking weed and doing other shit?

wasn't interactive, and it wasn't your character doing it, therefore allowed


also

bioshock is allowed as its clearly not a realistic world.

its context people! always comes down to the context!
 

Choc

Banned
legend166 said:
Packing my suitcase.

15kg/20kg and it's almost full.

I really should have gone out and paid for some nice, lightweight case. The one I'm using is some old crappy thing.

remember legend you CANNOT take liquids into the cabin on international flights above a very small miniscule amount

they will confiscate them, keep this in mind for cabin baggage

on the way home dont' even bother putting it in your luggage. No liquids are allowed on any (Australian only rule) cabin flying into australia so on your stopover when you are boarding the flight they will check your bag and remove the liquids if you have some, no matter how small.

I was very surprised @ this but it happened.
 

jambo

Member
I suppose the drink driving in GTA IV was allowed because you would always drive badly and if a cop saw you they would try and arrest you. Realistic, but not a positive thing.
 

Choc

Banned
wow

1 State Of Origin Rugby League Qld V Nsw 1st – Match Nine 2,227,000 1,054,000 296,000 820,000 31,000 27,000
2 State Of Origin Rugby League Qld V Nsw 1st – Pre Match Nine 1,471,000 668,000 196,000 607,000 *** ***
3 Today Tonight Seven 1,352,000 371,000 361,000 285,000 126,000 209,000
4 Australia’s Got Talent-Wed Seven 1,286,000 319,000 423,000 167,000 172,000 205,000
5 Seven News Seven 1,277,000 307,000 364,000 249,000 148,000 210,000
6 Masterchef Australia Wed Ten 1,236,000 304,000 501,000 153,000 123,000 155,000


State of Origin dominance.
 

Choc

Banned
jambo said:
I suppose the drink driving in GTA IV was allowed because you would always drive badly and if a cop saw you they would try and arrest you. Realistic, but not a positive thing.

correct


There's a few things in noir (i won't go into detail, spoilers) that are borderline RC. Would have been an interesting hearing at the COB for that game.
 

Choc

Banned
wow lol

Jordan Paris, Australia's Got Talent, May 2011
''A few years ago I went and saw Robbie Williams ... what I noticed is, Robbie only sings like half a song. (Sings) 'Come on Australia you know this one,' (points microphone to audience). I was like ‘Yeah we do Robbie, it was 150 bucks to get in mate, any chance you could sing it for us?' That’s like me getting up here going 'Oh gee, a funny thing happened to me on the way here tonight guys. Come on I think you know this one...' (points microphone to audience).''

Lee Mack, Live at the Apollo, December 2007
''Can someone tell Robbie Williams that this doesn’t constitute entertainment: 'Come on Glastonbury you know this one,’ (points microphone to audience). ‘Yeah we know it Robbie, it was 150 quid to get in, any chance you could sing it for us?' I couldn’t get away with that could I, I couldn’t come on here and go 'Hey, a funny thing happened to me on the way here tonight, come on you know this one...' (points microphone at audience).
Jordan Paris, Australia's Got Talent, May 2011
''I’ve only got three requirements when it comes to girls. Number one, are you a girl? Number two, have you always been a girl? And number three, if not, can you keep a secret?''
Geoff Keith, posted on Comedy Central in 2007
''I only have three requirements when it comes to girls, ready: One, are you a girl? Have you always been a girl? And if not can you keep a secret?''


Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/ent...kes-exposed-20110526-1f58t.html#ixzz1NRD3c4nR
 

Danoss

Member
Choc said:
remember legend you CANNOT take liquids into the cabin on international flights above a very small miniscule amount
The limit is 100mL.

Seems they love their alcohol tax in Australia, as it's basically a useless restriction for most other things. If I got to Scotland and have access to a wide range of scotches unlike what we have here and buy a bottle, I have to mail it back, enjoy it all while I'm there, give the remaining amount away or throw it in the bin.

Bunch of cunts.
 

Choc

Banned
Danoss said:
The limit is 100mL.

Seems they love their alcohol tax in Australia, as it's basically a useless restriction for most other things. If I got to Scotland and have access to a wide range of scotches unlike what we have here and buy a bottle, I have to mail it back, enjoy it all while I'm there, give the remaining amount away or throw it in the bin.

Bunch of cunts.

you can put it in your cargo luggage.
 

Choc

Banned
Danoss said:
Why is there a difference? Either way, the item is still on the plane for the duration of the flight.

you're not allowed to take liquid into the cabin, ie carry on

cargo luggage is allowed, because if you're a terrorist you can't get to the cargo to get the liquid to blow the plane

thats the thinking behind it.
 

Danoss

Member
If I was a terrorist, I could just have a remote detonator in my carry-on and the receiver in my luggage in the cargo hold. Plane still blows with barely any inconvenience.
 

VOOK

We don't know why he keeps buying PAL, either.
Just got a MMS from my brother, he got a TV with DVD built-in returned (works at electronics store) and in the disk drive was porn. How awkward.
 

Aon

Member
Danoss said:
If I was a terrorist, I could just have a remote detonator in my carry-on and the receiver in my luggage in the cargo hold. Plane still blows with barely any inconvenience.


They do also try and prevent you from carrying on remote detonators.
 

Danoss

Member
Aon said:
They do also try and prevent you from carrying on remote detonators.
How would they know what it looks like? It could be anything.

I could homebrew an NDS app to transmit on wi-fi, I doubt they'd pick up on that one. I could do the same thing on a smartphone. I could build one into my watch, James Bond style. None of these would look out of place.
 

Clipper

Member
Danoss said:
How would they know what it looks like? It could be anything.

I could homebrew an NDS app to transmit on wi-fi, I doubt they'd pick up on that one. I could do the same thing on a smartphone. I could build one into my watch, James Bond style. None of these would look out of place.
They also screen your checked bags. In the cabin, you could assemble a bomb from various liquids that are nicely separate to begin with. In your checked baggage, they all need to be set up with some sort of trigger mechanism that would be easily spotted in an X-ray.

jambo said:
Who is actually collecting the data from that survey? Is it officially linked from a government page?
 

Jintor

Member
Danoss said:
How would they know what it looks like? It could be anything.

I could homebrew an NDS app to transmit on wi-fi, I doubt they'd pick up on that one. I could do the same thing on a smartphone. I could build one into my watch, James Bond style. None of these would look out of place.

Please don't get our DSs banned
 
legend166 said:
One pair of pants? wat

I have three pairs of pants and four pairs of shorts.
How long are you going again? And the "take half" rule definitely sounds about right for you. I know it seems counter-intuitive, especially if you haven't gone away for a long time before, but everyone says it for a reason.
 

legend166

Member
codswallop said:
How long are you going again? And the "take half" rule definitely sounds about right for you. I know it seems counter-intuitive, especially if you haven't gone away for a long time before, but everyone says it for a reason.

I'm going for a month.

I figure, pack for a week.
 
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