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AusGAF 3.0 - Double the price, region locked and refused classification
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codswallop
Member
Bitch at their Twitter account (@fishpond_co_nz), like I did, and you too can get a quick response. And then ignored, like I was.Shaneus said:
DualShadow
Member
Web censorship to begin next month
Old?
I didn't know this shit was actually happening, time to change ISP.
Old?
I didn't know this shit was actually happening, time to change ISP.
Choc said:
It has been widely, widely publicised that this is the case since the clean feed was announced.
Anyway. Fuck I have man-love for Devin Townsend.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fsaz39Gelzo
DualShadow
Member
Choc said:
Yeah I'm sure there are plenty of ways around it, but doesn't mean we should have to use them.
reptilescorpio
Member
Yup, from day one it has been looked at as a waste of time. Aside from kids trying to look up incrediweird porn of course. I would expect deviants to have their own IRC setup or something.Omi said:
Infamous is awesome. Although it has rekindled my cheevo addiction, now in the form of trophies. Anyone use a specific site for them? PS3Trophies.org seems okay, looks like a sister site of x360a.
I'm pretty sure the censorship stuff being implemented next month is optional. Why do you need to change ISPs?
Edit: Reading more into it, it seems I may have mistaken the discussion of this being a voluntary scheme. It's the ISPs which are voluntarily accepting it, not the users, I guess.
Edit: Reading more into it, it seems I may have mistaken the discussion of this being a voluntary scheme. It's the ISPs which are voluntarily accepting it, not the users, I guess.
Vooks just dropped a BOMBA
http://www.vooks.net/story-20249-EB-Games-to-sell-Ocarina-of-Time-3D-starting-tomorrow.html
http://www.vooks.net/story-20249-EB-Games-to-sell-Ocarina-of-Time-3D-starting-tomorrow.html
problem is
Nintendo can ream EB over this and they can't game traders as its not AU stock there. If EB think Nintendo needs them to survive, EB could not be further from right
Sony and MS do, Nintendo has built itself around myer, kmart etc and would be fine
EB needs to remember they have an expo coming up....... and they'd probably like the Wii U there....
EDIT: also EB is dumb. Nintendo will probably recall the shipment from TOLL. ANnounce it AFTER you have the stock......
Nintendo can ream EB over this and they can't game traders as its not AU stock there. If EB think Nintendo needs them to survive, EB could not be further from right
Sony and MS do, Nintendo has built itself around myer, kmart etc and would be fine
EB needs to remember they have an expo coming up....... and they'd probably like the Wii U there....
EDIT: also EB is dumb. Nintendo will probably recall the shipment from TOLL. ANnounce it AFTER you have the stock......
Serves Nintendo right for delaying it for no damn good reason.
The games are just sitting in stores, waiting. It's not like they're in transit.
Not owning a 3DS I've got no horse in this race but I'm actually happy EB have done this.
Edit: Choc, if this bundle is something EB are doing themselves then surely they've had them in stock themselves for ages so they could put the bundle together right?
The games are just sitting in stores, waiting. It's not like they're in transit.
Not owning a 3DS I've got no horse in this race but I'm actually happy EB have done this.
Edit: Choc, if this bundle is something EB are doing themselves then surely they've had them in stock themselves for ages so they could put the bundle together right?
In other news, it's Lucas Neill's fault: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/les-murray-claims-socceroo-revolt-20110623-1gg48.html
:lol
:lol
"After the coach, Dutchman Pim Verbeek, had addressed the players, naming his line-up and the strategy, the team captain, Lucas Neill, asked the coach to leave the change room while he addressed his colleagues
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/footbal...eroo-revolt-20110623-1gg48.html#ixzz1Q4rQFOwu
again you tell neill to fuck off. I am the coach why the fuck can't i be there?
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/footbal...eroo-revolt-20110623-1gg48.html#ixzz1Q4rQFOwu
again you tell neill to fuck off. I am the coach why the fuck can't i be there?
Sutton Dagger
Member
Choc said:
Considering EB prices are ridiculous they are probably hoping they can sell as many copies before other retailers get stock and sell it as well.
I'm getting mine from a brick and mortar store, Kmart for $49 is the cheapest I think.
The point is Nintendo should not be saying yes unless they are certain every retailer has stock.
Otherwise EB has an unfair advantage, in a fair environment nintendo has tried to create
Imports do not count, unfortunately its the way it is. Street dates exist for a reason. If they are not adhered to or publishers start to break them for particular retailers, street dates will never be able to be enforced.
I am not blaming EB, after all its just business, but Nintendo better think long and hard before it ok's it.
Otherwise EB has an unfair advantage, in a fair environment nintendo has tried to create
Imports do not count, unfortunately its the way it is. Street dates exist for a reason. If they are not adhered to or publishers start to break them for particular retailers, street dates will never be able to be enforced.
I am not blaming EB, after all its just business, but Nintendo better think long and hard before it ok's it.
reptilescorpio
Member
Until the industry goes completely DD and sell their consoles in their own stores they are still tied to retailers (especially the main ones like EB) with a lot of power going to the retailer.Choc said:
For some reason, PS3 trophies are nowhere near as appealing as 360, GFWL or Steam cheevs. Perhaps it's that there are no games on PS3 I feel like hardcore cheeving or that the trophy tech is nowhere near as open/accessible as 360 ones, I don't know.reptilescorpio said:
Officially addicted to saying "cheevs" or "cheevos" now. What have you done?!?
Vooks: Is EB vs. Ninty threadworthy? Might be interesting for foreigners to see how the other half lives.
reptilescorpio
Member
reptilescorpio
Member
Fair competition. Otherwise the big retailers would get stock first as they offer the best deals to publishers. Why would anyone buy a game from a small store like Game Traders if they have to wait an extra few days?jambo said:
Choc said:
I'm a million percent sure Nintendo has told them that no action will be taken if they sell early.
I was practically told that on the phone when I caught them off guard, then once they got their head about them it was - "the release date is 30th June".
It's clear they're shitty with Gametraders and this is the only way they can hit back.
Vooks - awesome story. The fact that you do a much better job than people being paid to do this is quite inspiring. Honestly.
jambo said:
ok i could write a massive essay but in summary
-EBGames, GAME, harvey norman etc have massive logistic operations that can send stuff to retail quicker
-Smaller stores such as the gamesmen etc do not.
-By setting a street date it achieves two things
1. It is fair to everyone trying to sell the game. One retailer does not gain advantage by having access to a massive logistical operation they run. You will notice when there is no street date on a game, eb tends to have it 3ish days before eveyrone else. This is why.
2. It means that the marketing can have a specific date and gamers can generally be sure that the game will be available on that date nationwide if they walk into a store.
in a country as big as australia, its a very bloody important part of the retail sector.
MrSerrels said:
Serrells if this is true then Nintendo can forget setting a street date in Australia and having it adhered to ever again. Smaller retailers will say look you didn't cream EB so why should i ad here to it. and if nintendo tries to restrict trade with that retailer over the street date break, the retailer will go to trade practices and the ACCC with this precedent in hand.
Why Nintendo is THAT pissed off with GT when in comparison to EB they are quite tiny and only have a few stores (and those stores only have 1 or 2 copies each) i don't know. They will lose out on max 50 copies nationwide (from what i can tell of GT stocks on the site). A drop in the ocean compared to what they will sell on release.
Nintendo is making a mountain out of a mole hill for no fucking reason. GT has imported Activision, EA, THQ games etc before and publishers just deal with it. It's such a small section of the market overall that its not an issue. Nintendo is just so up itself it thinks it is.
Choc said:
It's about relationships too. Buyers will be less likely to buy in a whole heap of stock if other retailers have the jump on you through logistics.
This Gametraders move is so interesting in a lot of ways.
If the exchange rate goes arse up it will bite them in the arse big time because local pubs won't want to deal with them once it stops being profitable to go down the grey imports route.
Choc said:
The flipside to this argument is that if Nintendo don't respond to this move, what's to stop other retailers doing the same thing?
I spoke to the MD of GAME and asked him - what's stopping you going full Grey Imports?
"Nothing" was his answer.
Obviously he wouldn't do that, but I think Nintendo has to be seen to providing some sort of consequence to this action.
It's altogether possible that all stores have been given permission to sell tomorrow, and there's an understanding that this is a one off, isn't it?
Mark it sets a dangerous precedent. If they have specifically given EB games permission to sell early, street dates from Nintendo are finished.
Other retailers will revolt and just sell as soon as they get Nintendo games in the future, i guarantee it. It's not a smart move whatsoever
If it was EB grey importing, Nintendos reaction would be adequate. Nintendo does not need to react the way they have, its been going on forever and a day. Just look at Chinatown in Sydney for parallel imported games and also gamelane.com.au who incidentally have sold Ocarina since Monday.
Short term gain for long term pain on Nintendos side.
If Nintendo specifically gave permission for stores where GameTraders also exists, thats a different story.
if its a nationwide thing, which we dont know yet, its bad.
Other retailers will revolt and just sell as soon as they get Nintendo games in the future, i guarantee it. It's not a smart move whatsoever
If it was EB grey importing, Nintendos reaction would be adequate. Nintendo does not need to react the way they have, its been going on forever and a day. Just look at Chinatown in Sydney for parallel imported games and also gamelane.com.au who incidentally have sold Ocarina since Monday.
Short term gain for long term pain on Nintendos side.
If Nintendo specifically gave permission for stores where GameTraders also exists, thats a different story.
if its a nationwide thing, which we dont know yet, its bad.
Choc said:
Yeah, to be honest, we don't really know much. And we're unlikely to know. Nintendo won't say anything about this. Ever.
But I think we're really coming to a strange point in this country with retail. Something has to give. Prices, release dates, etc. Competition at retail is global, but most local retailers and pubs have their heads in the sand. Events like this show just how shaky the whole institution is.