MrSerrels said:Yeah, to be honest, we don't really know much. And we're unlikely to know. Nintendo won't say anything about this. Ever.
If only stores near GT sell tomorrow we know
MrSerrels said:Yeah, to be honest, we don't really know much. And we're unlikely to know. Nintendo won't say anything about this. Ever.
Choc said:If only stores near GT sell tomorrow we know
That would be nice but I can't see it happening. If it starts happening for more releases Nintendo Aus will crack the shits and tell them not to import. Do Nintendo see Australia as a big enough market to speed up the localisation process enough to release same day as Euro/US?VOOK said:I see one positive from this, delays for games by Nintendo are over. All retailers have to do is import and release, Nintendo has never reacted to importers like this before.
jambo said:If everyone sells it without Nintendo's permission, what are they going to do?
Reprimand all of them?
reptilescorpio said:That would be nice but I can't see it happening. If it starts happening for more releases Nintendo Aus will crack the shits and tell them not to import. Do Nintendo see Australia as a big enough market to speed up the localisation process enough to release same day as Euro/US?
jambo said:If everyone sells it without Nintendo's permission, what are they going to do?
Reprimand all of them?
Choc said:two potential outcomes
1. Nintendo has balls, ships future nintendo games late to EB and fines them
2. Does nothing
Number 1 is the correct course of action if nitnendo doesnt want myer etc on their back
markot said:I rang the EBs too and they said they were just punking Vook >.<
Choc said:ie no localization is required
markot said:Hmm. Dont they have contracts that state the day they can start selling em?
I meant special "localisation", as in the stuff that keeps us from getting it at the same time. Like an efficient management structure that will get all the paperwork done for release over here rather than be lazy bastards and take their time. Slapping together that new artwork to include our ratings is hard work.Choc said:Not sure about you but *coughs in preparation for Sam Jackson voice*
in this country we speak english motherfucker
ie no localization is required
VOOK said:Looks like the Zelda story killed Kotaku...
VOOK said:Looks like the Zelda story killed Kotaku...
Sutton Dagger said:Anyone want to recommend some good pre-workout supplements?
Yeah, I use ps3trophies.org, generally. However, I typically just Google for "*Game Name* trophy guide" to find one, which almost always finds the ps3trophies.org one anyway. Those sorts of guides have really helped me save some time with some platinums...reptilescorpio said:Yup, from day one it has been looked at as a waste of time. Aside from kids trying to look up incrediweird porn of course. I would expect deviants to have their own IRC setup or something.
Infamous is awesome. Although it has rekindled my cheevo addiction, now in the form of trophies. Anyone use a specific site for them? PS3Trophies.org seems okay, looks like a sister site of x360a.
jambo said:Ecstasy
MrSerrels said:Nintendo used Kotaku hack.
It's super effective.
VOOK said:I got more news coming up
MrSerrels said:I just did the same thing as you did!
Great minds.
Also after speaking to GAME and JB I've revised my thoughts on how this went down.
1. EB whine to Nintendo about Gametraders. Say, we want to sell early.
2. Nintendo say, go ahead then, see what happens.
3. EB say, fuck it then, we will. We have a leg to stand on here.
4. Nintendo are aware of situation, stand by their release date.
5. Other retailers don't know shit about it. Play it safe by waiting until EB pull the trigger.
I think that's all there is to it really.
They usually only match stores that have the game instock. Maybe your local Big W will release early too...jambo said:I wonder if EB will price match tomorrow, that BigW price looks tasty.
reptilescorpio said:So what is the situation with the supply chain? Bookstores cannot order shipments of stock from overseas and must go through Australian suppliers but this does not happen with video game retail?
*salutes choc's deduction abilities.*Choc said:Ok i've figured out why this is such a big issue for Nintendo
As we all know EB Games has an exclusive OOT edition with an ocarina. As Vook has reported this was done by EB not Nintendo
HOWEVER
Nintendo would have had to approve the usage of the name, the design of the ocarina and probably had to provide zeldas lullaby and copyright permission on all of it
The Ocarina box is not a nintendo thing its an eb thing.
So EB poured out a lot of capital to get that going. They are now furious that Nintendo has a situation where they can't stop a retailer selling OOT early, thus diminishing their potential return on the Ocarina investment
The commercials around the Ocarina would be interesting. Nintendo would have had to approve it all but no doubt EB would have put conditions on Nintendo. one of those may have been if a street date is broken, its on for all money.
It may also state Nintendo must do everything in its power to ensure the game does not release early. and thus Nintendo has to do somethign rather then ignore it as they usually and all publishers do.
Could be wrong, doubt i am
How come this never happened with video games retail? Just because it is a new media product?Choc said:Correct
the book industry terrorists believe they are protecting the industry in australia when as borders etc closures show, they are destroying it
The parralell ban on books is the most ridiculous thign around, especially when buyers can just buy online.
Wouldn't Nintendo make sure to cover themselves though? Since they have all the rights to Zelda it is hard to imagine them bending over backwards to do everything EBs way when the partnership is so important to both companies. EB would hate to get on their bad side with the Wii U just announced and Nintendo would have had a close eye on how EB were using their brand.Choc said:Nintendo would have had to approve the usage of the name, the design of the ocarina and probably had to provide zeldas lullaby and copyright permission on all of it
So EB poured out a lot of capital to get that going. They are now furious that Nintendo has a situation where they can't stop a retailer selling OOT early, thus diminishing their potential return on the Ocarina investment
The commercials around the Ocarina would be interesting. Nintendo would have had to approve it all but no doubt EB would have put conditions on Nintendo. one of those may have been if a street date is broken, its on for all money.
It may also state Nintendo must do everything in its power to ensure the game does not release early. and thus Nintendo has to do somethign rather then ignore it as they usually and all publishers do.
I started going to the gym yonks ago (stopped shortly after, lulz) and as per everything I'm enthusiastic about for a week, did shitloads of research. Definitely try Jack3d, it seems to be the best. Got me all antsy in the pantsy.Sutton Dagger said:Is anyone from AusGAF a gym whore? I took some pre-workout stuff today before my session and holy hell it was crazy. Tingly and itchy all over (ohhhh yeahhh), but lifted about 15% more than I usually do. This stuff can't be good for you
Anyone want to recommend some good pre-workout supplements?
reptilescorpio said:They usually only match stores that have the game instock. Maybe your local Big W will release early too...
Sutton Dagger said:Actually EB no longer price match if they have extra stuff
What part of the industry wanted to ban import supply? Very curious. Strange that it hasn't happened much up until this point, with the strong Aussie dollar and more and more UK companies looking to take advantage you would think EB or GAME would have had some pretty tempting offers from overseas suppliers. What are the benefits of staying with local suppliers (other than supporting local business of course)?Choc said:Rep it almost happened with games. The games industry fought tooth and nail to keep it illegal in 2005 and lost
it may have cost $100,000 for EB to do this ocarina thing. If you are investing that much, to have a business case you need to have rules around it and the commercials (contracts) would be unique to this situation.
Basically EB doesn't put 100k in for Nintendo to just let someone shit all over them.
reptilescorpio said:What part of the industry wanted to ban import supply? Very curious. Strange that it hasn't happened much up until this point, with the strong Aussie dollar and more and more UK companies looking to take advantage you would think EB or GAME would have had some pretty tempting offers from overseas suppliers. What are the benefits of staying with local suppliers (other than supporting local business of course)?
What was the story with Harvey Norman not selling Wii stuff back in the day, was that because of a supply complaint?
markot said:Also, is the ocarina the main reason Gametraders are doing this with this title?
Wasn't it Gamecube related? HN wanted more margin on the Gamecube, Nintendo declined, and then declined to sell them the Wii initially?Choc said:I beleive the Wii thing was margin and lack thereof. I can't remember, I used to know the reason HN said no wii.
Fredescu said:Wasn't it Gamecube related? HN wanted more margin on the Gamecube, Nintendo declined, and then declined to sell them the Wii initially?
markot said:Witch 'declines' jail for dragging cop with car
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/06/23/3252013.htm?section=justin
I don't think that's it. It's just opportunistic. It wouldn't be the ocarina deal. Publisher do exclusive stuff with retailers it'll be the cost price GT at paying that's the problem. In fact Mark Langford pretty much confirmed that. They pay more because they can't buy the same amount of stock.Choc said:Yes. I believe GameTraders incorrectly believe Nintendo arranged the Ocarina. Although there was nothing to stop Nintendo from telling EB not to do this, its unfair.