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[Choc]

effective opposition does not just say no to everything. Effective opposition is what Malcolm Turnbull offered. Agreeing where agreement was required not just flat out saying no


The fact that Tony Abbott has managed to turn a political enquiry into media ownership into australia into yet anotehr carbon tax fight shows what a single minded twat he is.

The fact is tony does not believe in climate change. He only does because the electorate does. If the electorate didn't, he wouldn't thats the problem with him and that is why he is not an effective leader.

If you can name 1, just 1 policy that he has agreed with since taking over from MT, i will eat my hat.

Julia had the worst campaign in history, its her own fault she is in the position she is in, not any of the work Tony had

His election policies were nothign

 

[codswallop]

Wait, O'Connor is saying RC's definition hasn't changed?

NSW AG saying "significant changes to guidelines". Does that mean changes to the draft or existing guidelines? One could be good, one not so good.

 

[Omikron]

Watching this presser stream, I have some concerns about the R18+ thing, that the governments may just push content that would be in the MA15+ stuff into R18+ category and still keep the RC content guidelines the same or perhaps even strengthen them in terms of violence, meaning those things that have not passed previously will likely still be banned.

Just a gut feel.

 

[Clipper]

Getting back to the NBN thing, I didn't see this mentioned, but it is worth noting. Those announced prices include line rental for a home phone. Comparisons to Naked plans, as was done earlier in the thread, are thus crazy to perform. I don't know if we'll be getting options for Naked NBN from anyone, but for now you should be comparing to bundled pricing.

Watching this presser stream, I have some concerns about the R18+ thing, that the governments may just push content that would be in the MA15+ stuff into R18+ category and still keep the RC content guidelines the same or perhaps even strengthen them in terms of violence, meaning those things that have not passed previously will likely still be banned.

Just a gut feel.

The only things that were banned for the RC guidelines were Risen and other games with positive uses of realistic drugs. These issues are easily worked around by the developers, so leaving the RC rules in place is a perfectly acceptable compromise if you ask me.

 

[codswallop]

Watching this presser stream, I have some concerns about the R18+ thing, that the governments may just push content that would be in the MA15+ stuff into R18+ category and still keep the RC content guidelines the same or perhaps even strengthen them in terms of violence, meaning those things that have not passed previously will likely still be banned.

Just a gut feel.

This is what I'm taking away from it.

The MA15+ = R18+ thing will happen in SA as well, which is even dumber.

It seems like they've completely missed the entire point and just made things worse, as they'll think they've fixed it.

Getting back to the NBN thing, I didn't see this mentioned, but it is worth noting. Those announced prices include line rental for a home phone..

I did not realise that... Interesting.

 

[Ventron]

If you can name 1, just 1 policy that he has agreed with since taking over from MT, i will eat my hat.

Paid parental leave. Done.
You need to remember that the only news that gets reported is stuff that is exciting and dramatic (a few tears here and there won't hurt either). That's why policies with bipartisan agreement don't get reported because there is no tension, which says it all really. I'd have to go through hansard to find the bills with bipartisan support, but there are plenty otherwise we'd need a new election.

Oh, and R18 stickers!
But did they just say that MA15 would be moved to R18 and the RC definition would be unchanged?

 

[Kerrby]

Okay so in SA, MA15+ games will be re-stickered R18+.

Next meeting is in November *sigh*.

 

[Choc]

Watching this presser stream, I have some concerns about the R18+ thing, that the governments may just push content that would be in the MA15+ stuff into R18+ category and still keep the RC content guidelines the same or perhaps even strengthen them in terms of violence, meaning those things that have not passed previously will likely still be banned.

Just a gut feel.

i've had this concern all along. But to deny based on 'impact on children' for an R18 classification would be harder to do because if they are saying that they are banning based on children impact when R18 exists, then they are saying the classification system fails

 

[Choc]

Paid parental leave. Done.
You need to remember that the only news that gets reported is stuff that is exciting and dramatic (a few tears here and there won't hurt either). That's why policies with bipartisan agreement don't get reported because there is no tension, which says it all really. I'd have to go through hansard to find the bills with bipartisan support, but there are plenty otherwise we'd need a new election.

Oh, and R18 stickers!
But did they just say that MA15 would be moved to R18 and the RC definition would be unchanged?

he didnt agree with paid parental leave. He wanted the top 200 employers to foot teh bill of the entire system and offer 6 months leave @ normal wages to parents with no means test or upper limit


yes in theory a better policy, economically a disaster

 

[codswallop]

But did they just say that MA15 would be moved to R18 and the RC definition would be unchanged?

This is what I'm seeing and totally unlike what the draft guidelines said.

If that's what happens, anyone who didn't comment when the public consultation was open has only themselves to blame, I guess.

 

[Choc]

just on the R18 thing, its a lot harder to justify a ban when there is an adults only category.


The classification body is there for guidance, not censorship, thats what the board truly believes.

The whole point of classification as the ARLC has put it, is to inform not censor. Yes MA15+ games will become R18, there is no doubt and they will drop the MA15+ ranking

but games like left 4 dead 2 would get in. Blitz the league im not so sure, i cant see that positive drug use going anywhere fast, but we shall see.

and FWIW, if the classification board stuck to the legislation directly and applied it down the line without using their brains, most violent games today would be banned

The legislation provides a framework for the COB to produce its guidelines for the censors.

For example, in early 2000s, nudity would have copped an insta ban, now its quite regularly allowed into aus in video game format.


The COB job is to determine classifications based on the society of the day. The classification act wont' change that, thats a key fundamental to not having the COB seen as censors. If it does, expect margaret, david and other film and music people to get very angry very fast with the government and make sure it changes before passing.

 

[Omikron]

This is what I'm seeing and totally unlike what the draft guidelines said.

If that's what happens, anyone who didn't comment when the public consultation was open has only themselves to blame, I guess.

Didn't the NSW AG mention something about the guidelines for ratings being changed as well? Or was that just in relation to current guidelines and the implementation of the new ones?


SA AG now saying that they are just going to rebadge all MA->R.

Looks like they are all just avoiding the issue. Not that I disagree with getting rid of MA.

 

[codswallop]

just on the R18 thing, its a lot harder to justify a ban when there is an adults only category.

Except that there was a comment that the guidelines for RC will remain unchanged. The comment might've been worded poorly.

The draft guidelines I saw were pretty good and if they're introduced, no real problem.

Didn't the NSW AG mention something about the guidelines for ratings being changed as well?

The guidelines were supposed to have been changed, hence the new draft guidelines.

 

[Clipper]

This is what I'm seeing and totally unlike what the draft guidelines said.

If that's what happens, anyone who didn't comment when the public consultation was open has only themselves to blame, I guess.

No, they can blame a lot more than that. There were 80 submissions, the deficit of good feedback was announced and suddenly there were 800. I would strongly suspect those 720 (and however many more happened in the last few days) were strongly suggesting that R be instated properly, given the locations where the info was made public.

If this is a merging of MA15+ with R18+ in addition to creation of R18+ for games, then they are listening to the responses. If it is just changing the name of M15+ to R18+, then they have totally ignored the feedback, so more feedback wouldn't have mattered in the slightest.

Except that there was a comment that the guidelines for RC will remain unchanged. The comment might've been worded poorly.

I think the guidelines for RC are just that realistic drug use, positives from drug use, incentives to commit crime and child porn receive RC. The lack of an R category for games was not in the guidelines for RC, except for the point that any content that couldn't be classified under other categories would get RC. In that case, the wording does indicate that this is a merger and not a rename, which is perfectly acceptable.

 

[Omikron]

The guidelines were supposed to have been changed, hence the new draft guidelines.

Yers, was in process of editing my comment, I think you may be right, and as you say, confusing comments from the AG.


Either way, rebadging MA->R to me still seems wrong.

 

[Choc]

it is wrong.


the thing is the ALRC will come out and probably promote self regulation and only investigate when someone cracks the shits.

It's already starting to look like that will be the case, especially in the mobile OS space. You can't classify 1400 apps a week, its not possible.

If you read the reports into L4D2 and Aliens vs Predator, it mentions basically paraphrasing 'based on the fact that this game could be seen and used by a child, it is not suitable to release this product in Australia'


if you have R18, you cant fucking say that. Well you can, but then you need to apply that equally to movies and music.

edit: basically what clipper said, yes. RC wil lremain and it should. Fuck rapelay etc, but games which did not fit into a category now will.

 

[codswallop]

No, they can blame a lot more than that. There were 80 submissions, the deficit of good feedback was announced and suddenly there were 800.

That was the Classification Review, not Classification of Computer Games R18+

edit: basically what clipper said, yes. RC wil lremain and it should. Fuck rapelay etc, but games which did not fit into a category now will.

Absolutely. RC should remain. However the guidelines for RC should change.

* O'Connor saying a 'matter of months'. Nice.
* Sexual violence RC. No matter what.

Sounds like the draft guidelines is pretty much what we'll end up with. In that case, that's a win.

 

[Clipper]

That was the Classification Review, not Classification of Computer Games R18+

Fair enough.

Absolutely. RC should remain. However the guidelines for RC should change.

I strongly disagree. I just went on a search for the guidelines and these are all the things they cover:

• Detailed instruction or promotion in matters of crime or violence.
• The promotion or provision of instruction in paedophile activity.
• Descriptions or depictions of child sexual abuse or any other exploitative or offensive descriptions or depictions involving a person who is, or appears to be, a child under 18 years.
• Frequent detailed gratuitous violence
• Sexual Violence
• Bestiality
• Gratuitous fetish sex
• Detailed instruction in the use of proscribed drugs.
• Material promoting or encouraging proscribed drug use
• Drug use related to incentives or rewards
• Interactive drug use which is detailed and realistic.

Which of these do you want to have in your games?

Edit:

Sounds like the draft guidelines is pretty much what we'll end up with. In that case, that's a win.

Oh, OK then. Those are unchanged from the original guidelines as far as I remember them (I used the draft to make my list, but I've seen them all before in the original list).

 

[Choc]

Fair enough.


I strongly disagree. I just went on a search for the guidelines and these are the thing s they cover:

• Detailed instruction or promotion in matters of crime or violence.
• The promotion or provision of instruction in paedophile activity.
• Descriptions or depictions of child sexual abuse or any other exploitative or offensive descriptions or depictions involving a person who is, or appears to be, a child under 18 years.
• Frequent detailed gratuitous violence
• Sexual Violence
• Bestiality
• Gratuitous fetish sex
• Detailed instruction in the use of proscribed drugs.
• Material promoting or encouraging proscribed drug use
  [*]Drug use related to incentives or rewards
• Interactive drug use which is detailed and realistic.

Which of these do you want to have in your games?

in certain terms. Like don't ban nfl blitz just because you take steroids

 

[Clipper]

in certain terms. Like don't ban nfl blitz just because you take steroids

So where do you draw the line? Steroids are a proscribed drug. How would you reword the list to make them acceptable but not other drug uses?

 

[pieatorium]

Yeah everyone who spoke sounded fairly confident that R18 not only is coming but coming sooner rather than later.

 

[Axiom]

On another note watching the Gamespot feed idling on some branches, is it snowing in South Australia or something?

Also the way they were bugging the Gamespot host for 'other games' that would be allowed in, I imagine they were after footage to display over the 9 news to 'shock' parents.

 

[Rezbit]

The problem I have is some games can apparently be as violent as they want but others can't. Why was Mortal Kombat banned, when a game like Modern Warfare has you massacring people?

 

[pieatorium]

On another note watching the Gamespot feed idling on some branches, is it snowing in South Australia or something?

Also the way they were bugging the Gamespot host for 'other games' that would be allowed in, I imagine they were after footage to display over the 9 news to 'shock' parents.

Yeah i got a wierd vibe during the 10 minutes or so that everyone was asking about facebook that they were fishing for something they could use as an attention grabbing headline.

 

[Clipper]

The problem I have is some games can apparently be as violent as they want but others can't. Why was Mortal Kombat banned, when a game like Modern Warfare has you massacring people?

It's probably due to the slightly sexualised violence that Mileena in particular is guilty of. The extreme level of gore also ups the impact a bit. That make it similar to L4D2 where it is the gore that is the problem, not the violence itself. It doesn't tick any of the RC boxes apart from the old not-MA one, so it would be R under this proposal as we understand it now.

 

[pieatorium]

The problem I have is some games can apparently be as violent as they want but others can't. Why was Mortal Kombat banned, when a game like Modern Warfare has you massacring people?

less blood and guts is probably the best approximation of what the reasoning would be.

It's probably due to the slightly sexualised violence that Mileena in particular is guilty of. The extreme level of gore also ups the impact a bit. That make it similar to L4D2 where it is the gore that is the problem, not the violence itself. It doesn't tick any of the RC boxes apart from the old not-MA one, so it would be R under this proposal as we understand it now.

what he said.

 

[Gazunta]

Well I finished a week of comics about Inspector Gadget and now it's time to never draw Inspector Gadget again.

So we're getting an R18? Or we're not? I'm confused.

 

[Choc]

guys they also discussed a proposal to make Facebook 18+ in AU by law

thats why facebook came up

 

[Choc]

The problem I have is some games can apparently be as violent as they want but others can't. Why was Mortal Kombat banned, when a game like Modern Warfare has you massacring people?

COD doesn't show hearts being torn out and bones broken and etc etc in high detail

 

[pieatorium]

Well I finished a week of comics about Inspector Gadget and now it's time to never draw Inspector Gadget again.

So we're getting an R18? Or we're not? I'm confused.

yes

 

[markot]

Yeah, its still crazy though. Censorship in general is sillyness.

 

[Clipper]

guys they also discussed a proposal to make Facebook 18+ in AU by law

thats why facebook came up

Isn't it already meant to be 15+?

 

[Choc]

Isn't it already meant to be 15+?

yes but they want to legislate that facebook for australian users has to do two things

1. Force 18+ for 'single' accounts

2. If its a child account, allow a parent to spy on the kid with a 'linked' account

ie

no fucking idea

 

[Choc]

So where do you draw the line? Steroids are a proscribed drug. How would you reword the list to make them acceptable but not other drug uses?

steroids is a legal drug


morphine is a legal drug

etc

if its coke and you do it adn it makes your characte rbetter, sure, get rid of it

 

[Clipper]

steroids is a legal drug


morphine is a legal drug

etc

if its coke and you do it adn it makes your characte rbetter, sure, get rid of it

It's not legal in the context in which it is used in the game.

 

[Choc]

It's not legal in the context in which it is used in the game.

if footballers are dumb enough to take steroids based on seeing it in a game more power to them

i am not going to be arrested walking down the street if a dog sniffs that i have steroids, if i have coke i will be

thats the definition. What is specificially banned under the crimes act as opposed to what the individual sports associations have decided

 

[Clipper]

if footballers are dumb enough to take steroids based on seeing it in a game more power to them

i am not going to be arrested walking down the street if a dog sniffs that i have steroids, if i have coke i will be

thats the definition. What is specificially banned under the crimes act as opposed to what the individual sports associations have decided

Oh, I thought possession without legal prescription was still a crime in this case. I've got some research to do. You have a point if possession and unprescribed use is legal.

Edit: Looks like my interpretation was correct according to this:

The possession, use and supply of steroids, other than by prescription from a medical practitioner, dentist or veterinarian is illegal throughout Australia as is unauthorised importation.

Thus, you would be arrested if a dog sniffs them out unless you have a medical reason.

Edit 2: looks like you beat me to it Pieatorium...

 

[pieatorium]

Oh, I thought possession without legal prescription was still a crime in this case. I've got some research to do. You have a point if possession and unprescribed use is legal.

"The possession, use and supply of steroids, other than by prescription from a medical practitioner, dentist or veterinarian is illegal throughout Australia as is unauthorised importation."

http://www.aic.gov.au/crime_types/drugs_alcohol/drug_types/steroids.aspx

 

[EatChildren]

The news is good. The battle against censorship continues though, as it always will, because it is a much bigger fish to fry.

 

[Stackboy]

So, getting away from politics... what's everyone got planned for this w/e? I'm seeing Sash! tonight then cleaning up for Tuesday's house inspection over the rest of the weekend.

Max chilling tonight, got a friend coming over tomorrow to play some fighting games, then a birthday party/housewarming that night. Pretty good weekend.

 

[giri]

Fair enough.


I strongly disagree. I just went on a search for the guidelines and these are all the things they cover:

• Detailed instruction or promotion in matters of crime or violence.
• The promotion or provision of instruction in paedophile activity.
• Descriptions or depictions of child sexual abuse or any other exploitative or offensive descriptions or depictions involving a person who is, or appears to be, a child under 18 years.
• Frequent detailed gratuitous violence
• Sexual Violence
• Bestiality
• Gratuitous fetish sex
• Detailed instruction in the use of proscribed drugs.
• Material promoting or encouraging proscribed drug use
• Drug use related to incentives or rewards
• Interactive drug use which is detailed and realistic.

Which of these do you want to have in your games?

Edit:

Oh, OK then. Those are unchanged from the original guidelines as far as I remember them (I used the draft to make my list, but I've seen them all before in the original list).

It should only cover items for which you face criminal offences if you posses it.

It's not a legal offence to contain photos or videos of graphic violence or drug use, or anything fetish. Theirs isn't a job to uphold additional "moral" standards that they wish, but to make sure that content judged criminal doesn't get distributed, IMO.

I'm not saying i want to run out and play "inject the crackwhore from the nazi sex dungeon 2", but it should be my choice as an adult if i want to, as long as none of the content is illegal, not, amoral (?) by some random bords decision.

 

[codswallop]

Clipper, the original Classification guidelines are here (not sure if they are the most recent, but probably close):
https://www.ag.gov.au/www/agd/rwpattach.nsf/VAP/(CFD7369FCAE9B8F32F341DBE097801FF)~S0000Guidelines+for+the+Classification+of+Computer+Games+GN+47+29+November.pdf/$file/S0000Guidelines+for+the+Classification+of+Computer+Games+GN+47+29+November.pdf

with the new draft (that have been changed today, all I know is that sexual violence will be RC no matter what) here:
http://www.classification.gov.au/www/cob/rwpattach.nsf/VAP/(689F2CCBD6DC263C912FB74B15BE8285)~Fin+Proposed+draft+guidelines+for+the+classification+of+R18+computer+games.pdf/$file/Fin+Proposed+draft+guidelines+for+the+classification+of+R18+computer+games.pdf

Previous RC guidelines include:
* Depictions of realistic violence, even if not detailed
* Extreme 'horror' scenarios
* Nudity, including genitalia
* Use of sexually explicit language
* Depictions which encourage the use of tobacco or alcohol

 

[Clipper]

It should only cover items for which you face criminal offences if you posses it.

It's not a legal offence to contain photos or videos of graphic violence or drug use, or anything fetish. Theirs isn't a job to uphold additional "moral" standards that they wish, but to make sure that content judged criminal doesn't get distributed, IMO.

I'm not saying i want to run out and play "inject the crackwhore from the nazi sex dungeon 2", but it should be my choice as an adult if i want to, as long as none of the content is illegal, not, amoral (?) by some random bords decision.

I believe you'll find it is illegal. Definitely, video content will be illegal to possess. The guidelines here are the same as the guidelines for movies. Gratuitous handling of sexual fetishes in a movie will get it the RC rating and owning such a video, even if you made it yourself, is illegal. I assume that owning a picture including pornography of a similar nature would also be illegal, but I can't find any proof of legality or illegality from some quick searches. It would be incredibly strange for that to be legal, though.

Clipper, the original Classification guidelines are here (not sure if they are the most recent, but probably close):
https://www.ag.gov.au/www/agd/rwpattach.nsf/VAP/(CFD7369FCAE9B8F32F341DBE097801FF)~S0000Guidelines+for+the+Classification+of+Computer+Games+GN+47+29+November.pdf/$file/S0000Guidelines+for+the+Classification+of+Computer+Games+GN+47+29+November.pdf

with the new draft (that have been changed today, all I know is that sexual violence will be RC no matter what) here:
http://www.classification.gov.au/www/cob/rwpattach.nsf/VAP/(689F2CCBD6DC263C912FB74B15BE8285)~Fin+Proposed+draft+guidelines+for+the+classification+of+R18+computer+games.pdf/$file/Fin+Proposed+draft+guidelines+for+the+classification+of+R18+computer+games.pdf

Previous RC guidelines include:
* Depictions of realistic violence, even if not detailed
* Extreme 'horror' scenarios
* Nudity, including genitalia
* Use of sexually explicit language
* Depictions which encourage the use of tobacco or alcohol

Yeah, I don't think that was the most recent version. The guidelines were updated sometime after that as we certainly have gotten plenty of nudity in games before.

Edit: Here is the current version of the guidelines. They match the new proposed ones without any of the ones from that ancient one you found.

 

[HolyCheck]

I HAVE to change my license to a victorian license within 3 months of moving here
I work.

There for i must book an appointment on a saturday.

there are no Saturday appointments available for 3 + months, i've already been here for 1+ month.

great system this is.

yet I could probably just walk in at a lunch time and apply for a new license in 5 minutes?

 

[Clipper]

I HAVE to change my license to a victorian license within 3 months of moving here
I work.

There for i must book an appointment on a saturday.

there are no Saturday appointments available for 3 + months, i've already been here for 1+ month.

great system this is.

yet I could probably just walk in at a lunch time and apply for a new license in 5 minutes?

Perhaps go to a different branch? Or have you checked several and none have Saturday vacancies?

 

[HolyCheck]

Perhaps go to a different branch? Or have you checked several and none have Saturday vacancies?

Spoke to vic roads.. the.. vicroads, they checked all branches

 

[Choc]

I believe you'll find it is illegal. Definitely, video content will be illegal to possess. The guidelines here are the same as the guidelines for movies. Gratuitous handling of sexual fetishes in a movie will get it the RC rating and owning such a video, even if you made it yourself, is illegal. I assume that owning a picture including pornography of a similar nature would also be illegal, but I can't find any proof of legality or illegality from some quick searches. It would be incredibly strange for that to be legal, though.



Yeah, I don't think that was the most recent version. The guidelines were updated sometime after that as we certainly have gotten plenty of nudity in games before.

Edit: Here is the current version of the guidelines. They match the new proposed ones without any of the ones from that ancient one you found.

ok heres the situation with NSW. If the Federal Government and the rest of the States go R18 by themselves it won't matter and NSW will have to fold


X rated movies gives us this as fact. X is only legal in NT and ACT to be sold. The other states have been them being sold at retail HOWEVER its not illegal for someone to go to those states or purchase online and send into those states

The same would apply for NSW people buying from interstate online.

edit: Check if VicRoads is anything like the RTA, you dont need a booking for a licence changeover

you go into the registry, get a licence form, fill it out, take a number and wait (sometimes for up to an hour)



edit: Conversion of an interstate or NZ licence/ learner permit to a Victorian licence or permit will be conducted by appointment only.


wow

Victoria is living in the stone age.

NSW for comparison


You need to:

Take your interstate or territory licence to an RTA Motor Registry or agency.
Provide proof of identity.
Provide proof of your residential address.
Complete an application form.
Pass an eyesight test.
Have your photo taken.
Pay a licence fee if you have an expired interstate or internal territory licence



seriously, you can do it anytime of day without a appointment. Red tape for the win, fucking vicotrian

 

[giri]

I believe you'll find it is illegal. Definitely, video content will be illegal to possess. The guidelines here are the same as the guidelines for movies. Gratuitous handling of sexual fetishes in a movie will get it the RC rating and owning such a video, even if you made it yourself, is illegal. I assume that owning a picture including pornography of a similar nature would also be illegal, but I can't find any proof of legality or illegality from some quick searches. It would be incredibly strange for that to be legal, though.



Yeah, I don't think that was the most recent version. The guidelines were updated sometime after that as we certainly have gotten plenty of nudity in games before.

Edit: Here is the current version of the guidelines. They match the new proposed ones without any of the ones from that ancient one you found.

It's only illegal, because it's been RC. Not because of any other law. If it breaks no other law, who are they to presume to set additional standards? Particularly if they're going to put in an R18 classification.

Partaking in sexual fetsishes isn't illegal (within obvious limits) so why should the images of them be if they're restricted to adults?

Child Porn, obviously illegal, most of the rest? entirely not (the stuff about showing how to build certain bombs instructions on how to commit crime is also).

 

[codswallop]

seriously, you can do it anytime of day without a appointment. Red tape for the win, fucking vicotrian

Seriously, how long can it take to understand the proposed R18+ rating, you can do it in an afternoon. Not being able to make a decision, fucking NSW.

 

[giri]

I HAVE to change my license to a victorian license within 3 months of moving here
I work.

There for i must book an appointment on a saturday.

there are no Saturday appointments available for 3 + months, i've already been here for 1+ month.

great system this is.

yet I could probably just walk in at a lunch time and apply for a new license in 5 minutes?

I thought they upped that to 6 months ?

And i thought vic roads had the form on their website?

The national road rules need to be sped up

Nope

If you are moving to Victoria permanently, your vehicle needs to be registered here. You will also need to change your interstate or New Zealand licence over to a Victorian licence after living in Victoria for more than three months.

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/Registration/NewToVictoria/InterstateVehicleRegistration.htm