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Omikron

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So, Qld is changing something to do with civil ceremonies. Apparently the ACL have been lobbying Newman and he has cracked.

I am not sure what the change is precisely, but according to him, the LGBT community 'loses nothing'.

Kinda wonder why the change then?


Here we go:

Premier Campbell Newman says Queensland's same-sex civil unions laws will not be completely repealed, but will be amended to bring the legislation into line with other states.
Under the proposed changes, same-sex couples would still be able to register their relationship with the government, but would not be able to have a state-sanctioned ceremony.

They will be able to have a private ceremony instead if they wish.

''They lose nothing from this change,'' Mr Newman said today of LGBT community members who had fought hard for the right to register their relationships.
Mr Newman said state-sanctioned ceremonies were what offended Christian groups opposed to civil unions, beause they appeared to mimic marriage.


Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...nded-newman-20120612-207a8.html#ixzz1xYHcftQm
 

Rezbit

Member
so a dingo really did take her baby

Dude spoilers

Also I've got CK2 as well. Makes me feel like this:

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He already has Sal. =/

So, Qld is changing something to do with civil ceremonies. Apparently the ACL have been lobbying Newman and he has cracked.

I am not sure what the change is precisely, but according to him, the LGBT community 'loses nothing'.

Kinda wonder why the change then?


Here we go:

smh. What the shit Campbell. What's the point of repealing the laws? Why bother? UGH.
 

Jintor

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So, Qld is changing something to do with civil ceremonies. Apparently the ACL have been lobbying Newman and he has cracked.

I am not sure what the change is precisely, but according to him, the LGBT community 'loses nothing'.

Kinda wonder why the change then?


Here we go:

They can't have their cake and eat it. Either Civil Unions are already equivilent to marriage and you are losing that equivilency by bowing the ACL, or they're not equivilent to marriage and the legislation is already discriminatory and is just being made it moreso.
 

Choc

Banned
i've always thought QLDers would regret CN


i think he will go down as one of the worst premiers you've ever had by the end of it and you will beg for labor to come back

dunno why i just have this feeling. Possibly because of what i have heard about how he ran BCC (by someone who works for him)

starting to think the same about BOF in NSW. Today's budget was harsh


also

so they have said raising the speeding fine cost will add $180 million dollars over four years. I think having speeding fine revenue as part of estimates is a fucking joke. What if everyone became law abiding citizens overnight? That money doesn't exist!

It just gives the no speed camera lobby ammunition.
 

Fredescu

Member
I'm about to start up CK2 too, so I'm glad there's a support group forming.

I have a feeling it's going to be a little different to Saints Row 3 which I just finished. I know I'm well behind the times, but that game is so good. I don't normally like GTA games, but SR3 is pretty special.
 

Choc

Banned
I'm about to start up CK2 too, so I'm glad there's a support group forming.

I have a feeling it's going to be a little different to Saints Row 3 which I just finished. I know I'm well behind the times, but that game is so good. I don't normally like GTA games, but SR3 is pretty special.

make sure you tweet jason rubin and tell him not to fuck with it :p
 

Jintor

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I didn't like SR3 as much as SR2 and I can't really justify it because SR3 is objectively far more polished. I think it's just because SR2 was such a huge surprise.

By the way the VAs for every main character are boss. Hispanic chica VA for life.
 

Fredescu

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I didn't like SR3 as much as SR2 and I can't really justify it because SR3 is objectively far more polished. I think it's just because SR2 was such a huge surprise.
I didn't play SR2, so maybe that's why I liked SR3 so much. I own it but I've heard the PC port is bad so I've never bothered to download it.
 

Omikron

Member
Enough politics. Video games and sports time!

Glad everyone is on the CK2 wagon post-sale, it really is great. But I get the feeling the majority here will hate. Just the game style is so not for everyone.

Also, Socceroos game tonight in Brisbane. We are going to get pumped by Nippon.
 

Choc

Banned
yowsers

Famitsu: 9/9/9/9
Destructoid: 9/10
Geekrevolt: 9/10
GamingUnwrapped: 9.5/10
GamingAge.com: A-
Frictionless Insight: 3/5
GamesRadar: 6/10

edit; also what the fuck sydney, it was sunny for FIVE MINUTES and now its pissing down again
 

Omikron

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I presume you are talking about this weird Lollipop Chainsaw game?

So, how is Lollipop Chainsaw fwding the portrayal of women in Video Games?
 
I didn't play SR2, so maybe that's why I liked SR3 so much. I own it but I've heard the PC port is bad so I've never bothered to download it.
SR2 had tons of variety and customisation while SR3 is a more stylised, focused experience.

Hopefully they mix them together for SR4.

Also Lollipop Chainsaw is tongueincheek Omi. Parody piece. Hilarious judging from the trailers.
 

evlcookie

but ever so delicious
Got in trouble because I told our client that I was being moved to another location doing another part of their orders. For some reason we haven't told them yet ......

Looks like i'm going to be here long term which for some reason doesn't inspire me much. I could hang around and get apple tech certified, if it even lasts that long or I could try and move onto something new.

Part of me wants to run off and do something new. It feels off here, alienated and kinda dead. That's probably because I don't know the techs but I do know everyone else and it still feels bad.

I just want to go home and pretend like this shit doesn't exist.
 

Cohsae

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Enough politics. Video games and sports time!

Glad everyone is on the CK2 wagon post-sale, it really is great. But I get the feeling the majority here will hate. Just the game style is so not for everyone.

Also, Socceroos game tonight in Brisbane. We are going to get pumped by Nippon.

CK2 is definitely my style of game, it's just a little overwhelming. It's amazing how much less forgiving I am of games that take time to learn now that I have a full-time job. I've turned into such a pansy.
So keen to get some sweet Cassus Belli though. Or possibly an Antipope.
 
Pretty sure Qld-GAF (Ventron perhaps excepted) always thought he was a reject and a twerp.
I was with him on the basis that he'd spend a shitload upgrading QLD infrastructure like he did in Brisbane. Upgraded highways and public transport give me such a raging engineering boner.

Then he was like LOL IMMA CUT ALL DA WAIST AND ALL DA REVENOO 2 FREE CAR REJO & STAMP DOOTI 4 EVERY-1!!! YEY CONSERVATARD SOCIAL AGENDA AND EMPTY POSTURING!!! NO BIKKIES N COFFEE 4 U GOVMNT WORKERS!!!

And I was like "Damn it, Campbell! This wasn't what I voted for! How are you supposed to pay for all this construction you promised me without money from Stamp Duty? It ain't gonna make houses any cheaper as it's already priced into the market. Why are you wasting your time on all this crap the ACL and Tony Abbott are putting to you?"

And then I realised I voted Liberal in a landslide year and a tear rolled down my cheek.
 

Choc

Banned
Fred

Quote from Helen Razers masterchef recap

"Julia had at it like the precision Lady Robot that she is and shined the surfaces in no time flat;

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/masterchef/masterchef-recap-big-glasses-greek-tragedies-and-the-essence-of-food--20120611-206fc.html#ixzz1xYTL4Ept"

lulz
 

Omikron

Member
How does this book forward the portrayal of women in video games?

Also Buffy isn't a parody and is still "ok".

Just an example of other media form doing it exactly as you described, but without cheer leader outfit.

Sure I know the game is tongue in cheek and yeah I am trolling a bit. Maybe I just don't get games that have girls dressed in skimpy outfits shooting zombies in the face.
 

Choc

Banned
lol

Tomb Raider it is not ;)

one might say that Tomb Raider is doing less for women than LC is

Tomb Raider makes all girls scared and helpless in the jungle, and moaning like they are having sex when they fall
 

Fredescu

Member
Just an example of other media form doing it exactly as you described, but without cheer leader outfit.
Oh, it's a picture book?

Maybe I just don't get games that have girls dressed in skimpy outfits shooting zombies in the face.
Time to get caught up on third wave feminism. Empowerment man! Didn't ever get into the Riot Grrl bands? L7, Bikini Kill, Babes in Toyland, and so forth. They wear skimpy clothes and shove their sexuality down throat face as part of their thing. Don't forget that the Lollipop Chainsaw character was designed by a woman.
 

Jintor

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I don't know, I don't think it gives two shits about it and that's okay once in a while.

I also find it spectacularly difficult to talk about these kinds of issue with any real sense of legitimacy.
 

Choc

Banned
heres what really matters

Shan as a female do you give a fucking rats arse at all about the way women are portrayed in video games and are you offended by it?

and if so, how would you fix it.


I kinda think this is storm in teacup stuff. There is over sexualization of females in every media, im not saying its right but i am wondering if its as bigger deal to females as certain feminist people tend to say it is.

I know Serrels has strong views on this. However i doubt Serrels would be againts lollipops. It's all about context!
 
heres what really matters

Shan as a female do you give a fucking rats arse at all about the way women are portrayed in video games and are you offended by it?

and if so, how would you fix it.

ah! The pressure!

Personally, not really no, although I'd don't know if I'm the best person to ask. I would however like to see A. more girls that aren't just there to look hot, and B. more male characters portrayed that way. I think this is probably a bigger issue than just the gaming medium. A lot of tv shows divide women into 'hot chicks' and 'lol, ugly', though it certainly is a bigger issue in gaming. I guess there's nothing wrong with them being portrayed as sex symbols as long as its not the only portrayal they're given.
 

Fredescu

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I was playing SR3 and came to like the Viola character. She was well spoken and had a economics degree and was dressed fairly conservatively for the most part. Then I realised she had enormous boobs. Then I realised she was voiced by a porn star. So, I dunno.

It's not a solved issue by any means. Google Buffy+feminism and you'll see all kinds of divergent opinions on whether the series is good or bad for women. I just don't think it's enough to say that woman in cheerleader outfit always = bad, as Omi was implying.
 

Jintor

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Buffy was a really interesting subversion of the 'blonde victim' stereotype because not only was she neither of those things, but she didn't even really fit neatly into any given criteria (imho, anyway, I watched it years after it first ran so I may have lost some context). She was just a teenage girl (+the scoobies) with the weight of the world on her shoulders.

Also they never really made too much out of the cheerleading thing. At least not in the way Lollipop Chainsaw does.
 

Omikron

Member
I was playing SR3 and came to like the Viola character. She was well spoken and had a economics degree and was dressed fairly conservatively for the most part. Then I realised she had enormous boobs. Then I realised she was voiced by a porn star. So, I dunno.

It's not a solved issue by any means. Google Buffy+feminism and you'll see all kinds of divergent opinions on whether the series is good or bad for women. I just don't think it's enough to say that woman in cheerleader outfit always = bad, as Omi was implying.

Certainly true, but I guess I just got that impression from the OT (and mega in IRC!) on the game, where it was spruiking alternate costumes involving progressively less clothing.
 

Jintor

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Your posts are becoming increasingly nonsensical, Choccers

Certainly true, but I guess I just got that impression from the OT (and mega in IRC!) on the game, where it was spruiking alternate costumes involving progressively less clothing.

I don't know much about the game itself just yet, but the marketing (much like with Hitman: Absolution) is meh.

Did I mention we got sent a bodypillow for this game a few months back?
 
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Its basically just soft core porn - which is fine. People are entitled to play pervy games if they so desire. Its that those kind of female characters appear in almost every game without fail that's the problem. Huge breasts have become the norm.
 
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