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Nup.
Incoming international mail has already been paid for and taxed in the country of origin, same as we pay the costs to send mail outside of Australia.
Isn't the good the item your purchased, and the service being the delivery of said item?
Box of Bunnies
Banned
So what'll be the excuse from local retailers when this fails to make any kind of difference?
But the good originated outside the country and the service paid for outside the country.
There is no internal product or service here.
Right, so what currently changes when the goods purchased in one lot exceed $1,000?
Ban importing, increase taxes, blame the government. Maybe (probably being far too naive here), if they worked together, they could force the local distributors to drop prices.
Nothing. I dispute there should be a tax on that as well. The only justifiable tax is the cost of inspecting imported items for banned material (eg fruit, pests, narcotics etc).
Couldn't it be justified that's what the GST on imported purchases over $1,000 pays for? Those people's salaries have to be paid for, why not charge the people who are partially responsible for their job existing in the first place?
It its a cost recovery basis, fair enough. If its on a "Gerry Harvey's share price recovery basis", then they have no right.
shanshan310
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something something creating more jobs!
Since when were taxes justified by rights?
Creating new jobs, that's preposterous, Campbell will have nothing of the sort.
I'm sure it's cost recovery and also a deterrent for companies trying to dodge paying GST by importing. Nothing wrong with that at all.
I'm not against paying GST on stuff I import, but as long as it doesn't deter from the convenience of it. If I pay for express and/or delivery to my home, I damn well expect that to happen. I only have a motorcycle, so if I have to go and pick up a large item from a depot or whatever, then the delivery to my house that I have paid for is now worthless.
x3no5 is correct in saying that resources would be better spent trying to fix the root of the problem. If they want to lower the GST threshold on imported items because it helps the government raise more funds, that's fine. To say that this will also assist retailers with the same action is disingenuous.
reptilescorpio
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Which is why I have had no issue importing banned video games for the last few years. Customs would need more resources, which I don't see happening with all the public jobs being cut at the moment.
A lot of businesses look at the GST as just another way to fuck some money out of the consumers. It has a name but a lot of the time it is just looked as another way to mark up a product/service. Any way a company can make money they will try.
Piracy.
Sorry, I should have said "justifiable reason".
As far as I understand though, the root of the problem is in large part due to local retail rental costs (thanks Centro, Westfield etc) and that is part of the property boom's fault.
Either way, local retailers have adjusted to the cartel norm of high prices so theyre just upset that the dollar's value has swung the pendulum in the favour of the consumer.
shanshan310
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Not sure if the yanks are joking when they say that letting a president in for a third term would make him a dictator-king.
CrazedProfessional
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Bought a Camelbak, Bike riding will be so much easier with a constant supply of water!
Planet_JASE
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You aren't dreaming big enough. Clearly this should have been your answer:
reptilescorpio
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It was Klin-tons line first!
Drop I Am Alive until a 75% off sale. Crysis 2 you could wait for a sale (or is it on sale now?). Good price on XCOM, not sure if it will be on GMG for around $35.
AA. Seems to have poor setting on it. Put it to HIGH rather than EXTREME or whatever it was.
CrazedProfessional
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You aren't dreaming big enough. Clearly this should have been your answer:
Did the bike explode soon afterwards?
In other news: http://www.news.com.au/national/que...es-in-queensland/story-fndo4ckr-1226467177747
Queensland continues to slip into the abyss!
Crysis 2 is on sale for 9.99, and XCOM on gmg for $37.50 with current 25% off code. The code doesn't work in the US so maybe that will also change for our region.
rofl "greater class size flexibility" and "industry competitive overtime arrangements"
Overcrowding and overworking. Killer.
They have edit: eh four year terms so in the end that isn't too different from us.... (you rarely see more than 3 terms for a sitting government.
reptilescorpio
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Valve need to start their own country.
The only justification for the GST as a whole is to get more tax from the poor. I don't see how putting that tax on direct imports needs a different sort of justification. It's a tax on consumption.
codswallop
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And they'll charge a disproportionately high fee to enter, and they won't allow any nudity. Also it'll take forever for anything to get done.
reptilescorpio
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30% seems good if everyone has to pay it and not just me. Also I thought there were a few games with titties up for sale on Steam? I was sure I remember seeing one in Farenheit or whatever it was called.
Except the ISP is in valve land and you have always online drm, and if you go offline once they kick you out or make you a soylent meal!
They've probably now had more free advertising than they ever would have had if the game was released on Steam.
reptilescorpio
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I thought there were a few games with titties up for sale on Steam? I was sure I remember seeing one in Farenheit or whatever it was called. Seems they probably allow some nudity.
codswallop
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Probably whatever amount of nudity they consider inoffensive. Unfortunately it's at the discretion of whoever happens to review it. Probably related to the number of complaints received as well.
And for how much money is behind a game.
I can't imagine The Witcher 2 being taken off. Or Mafia 2. Or any other high profile games what got tits in 'em.
Not to say that The Witcher 2 and Japanese Porno Text Adventure are inherently comparable.
Largely yay.
Maybe I need to restate my original point since I think you're arguing a different issue.
Let's compare two games. One bought in a shop in Australia, the other imported from the UK.
GST - applies to goods and services. In the case of the game bought in a shop in Australia, the good is the game, the service is the retailer providing it, the distributor distributing and importing it. You could also add in 'manufacturing it' in the case of some.
In the case of the game imported - the good was produced overseas, the service was provided overseas, nothing at all was produced or offered as a service in Australia. What then are they taxing? GST is literally not applicable in the case of imported items sent through the mail to individual customers.
They can introduce a VAT if they want, but this is not a GST.
not sure who this is a dig at.. but either way.. valves drm is worse than blizzards
Thats so laughable that it should be a sitcom! Staring ROVE!
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