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[Shaneus]

Also Shaneus use impossibleh.

That looks like it would be pronounced like something written in a MAD magazine, like "impossiblecch".

+1 for politics in its own thread. This thread looks like an ADHD-sufferers twitter feed some days making it hard to follow a conversation.

Oh, you motherfu...

Not to denigrate ADHD sufferers but anyhoo....

Denigrate ADHD sufferers about what?

 

[ClivePwned]

That looks like it would be pronounced like something written in a MAD magazine, like "impossiblecch".


Oh, you motherfu...


Denigrate ADHD sufferers about what?

well, to boil it down... LOOK! OVER THERE!

 

[HolyCheck]

There might be more gaffers now that it could be self supporting. I guess I meant that the existence of a thread isn't going to stop politics popping up in here.

I'm not against the creation of one, I just don't want to make any guarantees to the likes of Syth, otherwise he'll be like "STOP TALKING ABOUT POLITICS" every second post. There are plenty of topics that come up in here that I don't want to be involved with but I don't get vocal about it because I don't care and I'd rather this thread just be organic general discussion rather than having a bunch of unenforceable rules.

My issue with politics is that unlike any other topic we discuss, if anyone voices anything pro Abbott they're pretty much scared off and out of the hive mind here, unless they are quite resilient.

 

[Jintor]

Hey, if they can come in and argue their position with evidence and reason we probably won't tar and feather them immediately

 

[Choc]

anyone who thinks abbott would make a good PM and not Malcolm hasn't got the brains to be in ausgaf

 

[Fredescu]

My issue with politics is that unlike any other topic we discuss, if anyone voices anything pro Abbott they're pretty much scared off and out of the hive mind here, unless they are quite resilient.

Hey, if they can come in and argue their position with evidence and reason we probably won't tar and feather them immediately

Yeah, you're not entitled to an opinion you can't reasonably defend, no matter the topic.

 

[Choc]

Yeah, you're not entitled to an opinion you can't reasonably defend, no matter the topic.

Well shit. I'll get me coat.

 

[The Storyteller]

hollywood couldn't write this shit

Tilda Swinton needs to play Julia Gillard in a movie. It is too perfect.

Yeah, you're not entitled to an opinion you can't reasonably defend, no matter the topic.

http://theconversation.edu.au/no-youre-not-entitled-to-your-opinion-9978

 

[reptilescorpio]

Yeah, you're not entitled to an opinion you can't reasonably defend, no matter the topic.

Entitled to be informed on fact at the very least.






Plenty of people here are more than willing to talk about the Liberals, especially if Abbott is replaced by the more measured Turnbull.

 

[Choc]

if Turnbull takes over i will automatically become a Liberal voter for next election

its that simple

 

[Fredescu]

Plenty of people here are more than willing to talk about the Liberals, especially if Abbott is replaced by the more measured Turnbull.

Further, there has been some very spirited attacks on Labor in this thread too. I don't think we're all that partisan.

 

[FormallyMegadrive]

My issue with politics is that unlike any other topic we discuss, if anyone voices anything pro Abbott they're pretty much scared off and out of the hive mind here, unless they are quite resilient.

anyone who thinks abbott would make a good PM and not Malcolm hasn't got the brains to be in ausgaf

Well done Choc, you proved his point wonderfully.

 

[Choc]

Tilda Swinton needs to play Julia Gillard in a movie. It is too perfect.





http://theconversation.edu.au/no-youre-not-entitled-to-your-opinion-9978

The iron lady 2

i did see a tweet the other day that said 'Meryl Streep is doing background research on Gillards character as we speak'

which was of course a joke

 

[Fredescu]

Well done Choc, you proved his point wonderfully.

If Choc is enough to scare you off, where else are you discussing politics on the internet that is more relaxed?

 

[Choc]

guys if you think i am harsh


don't ever search for #qt during question time. There are some fucking maniacs on twitter

 

[Jintor]

Well shit. I'll get me coat.

lol

and that's why we love ya, choccers

 

[senahorse]

I am sorry but Abbott (even more so than Campbell Newman) really is indefensible but I would more than happy to be proven wrong in this regard. As for Liberal vs Labor, as has been mentioned, there is a fairly even spread across the board here and I don't remember people being attacked for liking one or the other.

 

[Omikron]

Honestly? I don't trust Turnbull as far as I can kick him, he speaks well, is largely fairly moderate as far as the Libs go, but I still don't trust him.

Plus: Anti-NBN means no vote for Libs.

 

[reptilescorpio]

If Choc is enough to scare you off, where else are you discussing politics on the internet that is more relaxed?

Reddit seems like a bunch of relaxed, open minded, down to earth people. Maybe 4chan?

 

[senahorse]

Honestly? I don't trust Turnbull as far as I can kick him, he speaks well, is largely fairly moderate as far as the Libs go, but I still don't trust him.

Plus: Anti-NBN means no vote for Libs.

It's like you read my mind, I don't have the blind faith in MT as some do. Very intelligent but that doesn't always make for a good leader. Also I am a one vote pony as well, and the only issue I really care about between the 2 governments is the NBN. Selfish, short sighted?, maybe but it's the one policy that I think will make a big impact on our future and is actually (currently) being implemented.

 

[midonnay]

If Choc is enough to scare you off, where else are you discussing politics on the internet that is more relaxed?

I don't mind Choc....but bigfooty or whirlpool are better places to debate politics >_>

ps: fuck Turnbull

pro-NBN = anti-Turnbull

 

[Fredescu]

Reddit seems like a bunch of relaxed, open minded, down to earth people.

Reddit is a terrible place for political discussion because the unpopular opinions get downvoted, and it ends up just being a circle jerk.

 

[Choc]

Honestly? I don't trust Turnbull as far as I can kick him, he speaks well, is largely fairly moderate as far as the Libs go, but I still don't trust him.

Plus: Anti-NBN means no vote for Libs.

Turnbull supports the NBN but has to toe the party line. His investment in the same infrastructure financially in france proves it

If he took over the leadership you might see the NBN viewpoint change.

 

[midonnay]

dude, he is goldman sachs

he's for fibre to the node and will also privatise it (like Labor)

privatising natural monopolies is how we got here in the first place.

 

[Omikron]

Turnbull supports the NBN but has to toe the party line. His investment in the same infrastructure financially in france proves it

If he took over the leadership you might see the NBN viewpoint change.

I am glad you have blind faith in a politician like that.

 

[Fredescu]

I don't mind Choc....but bigfooty or whirlpool are better places to debate politics >_>

From what I've seen on whirlpool, debate can be a lot more heated than here.

Turnbull supports the NBN but has to toe the party line.

I'll believe it when I see it. Turnbull might be more socially progressive than the average lib, but he's still a small government man, which means he opposes the NBN ideologically. I think you'll find he's a lot closer to Newman than he is to Rudd.

 

[Shaneus]

Tilda Swinton needs to play Julia Gillard in a movie. It is too perfect.

Conan O'Brien.

 

[Choc]

if the liberals tear up the NBN they have to give telstra 30 billion dollars

how they gonna fit that in a surplus

 

[Fredescu]

how they gonna fit that in a surplus

See: Newman, Campbell

 

[Omikron]

if the liberals tear up the NBN they have to give telstra 30 billion dollars

how they gonna fit that in a surplus

The same way they will fit all their other promises, do it and blame the previous government.

 

[Jintor]

they'll close the tax loopholes choc

[/americanpolitics]

 

[senahorse]

I don't know where you get that from Choc, but certainly isn't the case. The contracts with Telstra will need to be renegotiated and Telstra will gain a lot from it, but 30 billion I think not.

 

[The Storyteller]

guys if you think i am harsh


don't ever search for #qt during question time. There are some fucking maniacs on twitter

Or the #auspol hashtag on twitter in general. So many eggs making sexist, disgusting, abhorrent comments.

 

[Choc]

Or the #auspol hashtag on twitter in general. So many eggs making sexist, disgusting, abhorrent comments.

when i see that and they support liberal, it just backs up the whole viewpoint Julia has slammed tony onthis week

liberals are sexist cunts

 

[midonnay]

Telstra will BE the NBN

thats been their plan all along (just that Telstra didn't play ball the first time round)

 

[BanShunsaku]

liberals are sexist cunts

 

[Choc]

If you look at #auspol and #qt almost every male on their who is a liberal supporter starts spouting shit like 'oh she is having a menopausal breakdown again'

the evidence doesn't lie

 

[The Storyteller]

No *every* liberal is a sexist cunt. But a culture of sexism is certainly more evident on that side of politics.

 

[midonnay]

you forgot a "T".....and made it worse D:

 

[Fredescu]

No *every* liberal is a sexist cunt. But a culture of sexism is certainly more evident on that side of politics.

On the socially conservative side, sure. I think there are plenty of social conservatives in Labor these days too.

This is why Turnbull will have problems with the Liberal leadership. He might be a social progressive, but a lot of his party isn't.

 

[Choc]

There is an amazing load of salt from single mothers on twitter right now

not sure about the details on what just happened with their payments, but wow. Salty.

 

[The Storyteller]

you forgot a "T".....and made it worse D:

Oh shit I did. Freudian slip?

On the socially conservative side, sure. I think there are plenty of social conservatives in Labor these days too.

That's definitely true. And you only need to point to the lack of votes in support of same sex marriage on the Labor side to prove that.

 

[Choc]

On the socially conservative side, sure. I think there are plenty of social conservatives in Labor these days too.

This is why Turnbull will have problems with the Liberal leadership. He might be a social progressive, but a lot of his party isn't.

he takes over and he can get rid of the worlds greatest cunt, pyne from the front bench

 

[Stackboy]

There ARE ways of acquiring it for vita....

I shouldn't have to resort to changing PSN stores. If I want to part with money for a game that's out on a platform of my choosing, region shouldn't come into it.

It's not like its going to get refused classification in Australia, right? Right guys.......?

Don't get me wrong, I know it's not the developers fault. Hell, I can buy the game on Steam. I'll point the finger at Sony.

 

[senahorse]

There is an amazing load of salt from single mothers on twitter right now

not sure about the details on what just happened with their payments, but wow. Salty.

I remember something about cutting payments for stay at home mothers or something like that, in the last couple of days.

 

[Omikron]

I remember something about cutting payments for stay at home mothers or something like that, in the last couple of days.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-09/bid-to-delay-single-parent-cut-fails/4303418

The Senate has passed the Federal Government's contentious changes to the single parent payment.

From next year people will now be moved from the single parent payment to the dole once their youngest child turns eight.

Welfare groups have attacked the changes and earlier several Labor MPs tried - and failed - to get the Government to delay them.

But only the Greens and the Independent Senators John Madigan and Nick Xenophon voted against the Government.

The new regulations are due to start in January, and will mean those affected would lose about $56 a week.

 

[viciouskillersquirrel]

D'oh. Too late. Thanks for the suggestion! We're in Takayama tomorrow and Matsumoto two days after. Been to either of those places?


We ended up settling for Sukiya brand curry, I'm sure it's terrible but as we'd arrived in Kanazawa yesterday we didn't know there was a whole busy area further south of us! Seemed like everywhere was closed.

It was still

Spoiler

so bad it's

good.

Takayama has good local sake, but I can't read Japanese, so I can't name the brand. It comes in a blue bottle.

Other than that, there is a shop on the main street (headed toward the train station) that sells really awesome wood carvings.

 

[Choc]

hmm 8 is pretty young indeed.

"Australia’s unemployment rate now at highest level since March as economy shows further signs of weakness"

thats when Campbell got the job right? Apparently the entire movement upwards can be attributed to QLD

Good job fuckwit

 

[senahorse]

Everyone knows that Nokia Corporation’s (NYSE:NOK) new Lumia devices running Microsoft’s (NASDAQ:MSFT) Windows 8 operating system will be available in the market very soon, however Nokia hasn’t announced the exact date of release for its new devices. A forum’s member named Fred 69 reported that Australian carrier Telstra is preparing to launch Nokia’s Lumia 920 on November 5.

Fred said that his workplace has collaboration with Telstra and in a recently held conference; Telstra showed off Nokia’s upcoming devices including the Lumia 920 and said that they are planning to launch the device on November 5. On the other side, AT&T Inc. (NYSE:T) has already announced that it will launch the Lumia 920 on November 4.
http://statesmansentinel.com/2012/1...-launched-in-australia-on-november-5-reports/

Grain of salt and all that, but sounds plausible.

 

[Choc]

its a monday

makes sense