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AusGAF 9 - F*** Off, We're Full (Of People With Different Ethnic Backgrounds)

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Danoss

Member
Gazunta said:
Good morning all, I DID ANOTHER INDY GAMING COMIC, SOMEONE STOP ME

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I will only stop anyone who tries to stop you.

Stackboy said:
Between this and the transgender issue that was brought up recently, I've been really soured by PA in general. I've travelled twice to Boston for PAX East and now I'm done with their conventions.
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This speaks volumes to me and to many others I'm sure. I'm just quoting this one so it's not a quote-fest reply, but acknowledge Jintor, Rep and Dead Man's replies.

PAX is a big deal and is great for gaming. It has the opportunity to really spotlight some of the great things the various aspects have to offer and it is using that. I love that it is bringing all these things under one umbrella for all to see and enjoy, because that should already be the case. They are hurting something great and need to stop.

Actions do speak louder than words, and to look at the positive things that PA does you can't fault them. PAX is a great thing for all of gaming and Child's Play is just a wonderful thing in general. But words back these things up and this is the root of their shortcomings. It is the beginning of their negative actions, like selling the Dickwolves T-shirts after this thing blew up.

I'm sure I'm just treading old ground here and am not adding anything to what my previous post said, but I did want to add something positive. When reading one of the articles on this, I saw a comment that said that rape jokes can be funny and linked an example (there's no denying that this is true and, as I and others here have said, the joke in the PA strip was fine and was not the problem). I thought it was going to be Louie C.K. and was pleasantly surprised to discover that it wasn't; it was a woman, it was tasteful and it was really damn funny. This is what I wanted to share with you.

Continuing the trend of positive things, I have some more things to share if there are any willing takers. The Annalise PDF has been snapped up by Box of Bunnies, Sorcerer hasn't had any takers yet, but I do have something new to add. I had been meaning to pick up Our Last Best Hope for a while now and purchased the book and its expansion last night. Much to my surprise I was offered the PDF with the print-only copy this morning (the author seems like a really nice guy in my exchanges with him). Since I now have 2 copies, one of them is on offer to a lucky person here.

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Our Last Best Hope is about heroic sacrifice in the face of an impossible burden. During the game, you confront a disaster like those in Sunshine, Deep Impact, The Day After Tomorrow, or Armageddon -- and your characters are the stars. You play soldiers, doctors, engineers, and scientists who have ventured out into space or deep into the Earth's core to keep our species alive. As the noose tightens, you and your team struggle against Threats that can derail the Mission, the increasingly stressful burden you have taken on, and the Crisis itself, always looming at the edge of your minds. Not all of you will live. Not all of you will succeed. But each and every one of you has the potential to rise to greatness while the fate of Humanity is on the line.

While playing Our Last Best Hope, you might:

...launch into space to stop a meteor from destroying all life on Earth.
...drill to the center of the Earth to restart its molten core.
...navigate zombie-filled cities to stop a nuclear holocaust.
Each game is unique, as your group confronts a new Crisis with a new set of characters and a new plan to save the Earth. Regardless of the Crisis, you and your crew are our very last hope, and our best.

Our Last Best Hope requires neither a GM nor prep time. It's for 3-5 players and takes about two hours to play. The rulebook includes three Mission playsets: Space, Snow, and Zombie Apocalypse.

Inspired by indie RPGs like Fiasco and Polaris, Our Last Best Hope is a one-shot epic game that will leave your gaming group with incredible stories.
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If that sounds interesting to you, let me know and the game is yours.
 
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reptilescorpio

Member
Megadrive said:
I agree completely with you 100% about UW and Russo. He was pretty insane live when I saw them in like.. 2009 or maybe 2010, I don't remember with Closure In Moscow supporting and a band that is now becoming popular but they are probably the shittest band I've ever seen live, Masketta Fall.

Thrice! Still listen to and love Thrice. :D before their experimentation, though I have yet to give that another go, it's been like 3 years since I wrote it all off. D:
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Yeah once he got older he obviously wanted to do other things with the music, their success seemed to have a strange effect on him too.

Love all the Thrice stuff, aside from Alchemy Index really. Beggars (and subsequently Major/Minor) is really tight, high quality mature rock music still with that post-hardcore tipped edge. The Weight is one of my favourite songs, was almost going to play it acoustic at our wedding but thought it would be too douchy a thing to do.

NO MORE TALKING ABOUT THRICE, ILL DO THAT TONIGHT

Gazunta said:
Good morning all, I DID ANOTHER INDY GAMING COMIC, SOMEONE STOP ME

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8.8/10 would read again! Do another one now. I demand it. Now.

viciouskillersquirrel said:
Hilarious.

I went home early yesterday with a heavy ache in my bones. I thought it was because of a lack if sleep, but I still feel that way this morning after a full night's sleep. I think I'm coming down with something, but I literally have no other symptoms, so I feel a bit silly going home. I've only been at work an hour though and I already just want to go home.

Ugh. Another 8 hours of this crap.
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Sounds like you have a problem with a parasite like I do.

I'm joking! Kids are awesome. But fuck me am I exhausted all the time now so easily. Monday was really great though. He is a fully functional human now, can debate and convince like a weasel, which sets us apart from the animals.

Jintor said:
It fucking sucks, too, because I think Jerry's writing is astounding. And the original strip, itself, is actually a joke about how games trivialise rape and murder and other heavy subjects. But they just keep going... they just keep going.
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Gazunta said:
Jerry told me I had to enter Strip Search if they do another one.

That moment was the best part of the entire PAX Australia
and the year
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Yeah I haven't really read too many bad things about Jerry, other than him protecting his best friend. Hopefully they can educate him that his behaviour doesn't need to be one sided.

Quasar said:
Shopping around for a cheap vita.

ebgames selling for 200$. But the 3g ones apparently locked to vodaphone. Is this some kind of ebgames thing? or are all aussie vitas locked to vodaphone?
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99% sure it isn't locked, it just comes with a Vodaphone SIM. It just runs off regular 3G and you can replace the SIM cards from what I read so I can't see how they could possibly lock it to Vodaphone.

Holding out for $175!

EB also have the memory cards lowered to RRP now if you can't wait for a deal.

jambo said:
http://www.gearboxsoftware.com/communityday

http://twitch.tv/gearboxsoftware

Pre-order the Community Day 2013 Digital Bonus Pack today at twitch.tv/gearboxsoftware to receive exclusive access to the HD stream, Borderlands 2 SHiFT codes to unlock special in-game Community Day 2013 heads and skins, future access to a closed beta for an unannounced Gearbox Software title* plus a free game download of Homeworld HD and Homeworld Classic**!

Sweeeeet, Homeworld HD at last. Plus beta, possibly new IP.
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Price? Can't get onto Twitch from work.
 
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wonzo

Banned
I honestly can't see how anyone could give money to Gearbox after the last few buckets of shit they served up. Awful company.
 
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Danoss

Member
codswallop said:
I don't have a group to play anything like that with, but it does sound pretty cool. I like the idea of no GM as well.
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The only people with groups here are Shanshan, Jables and Rezbit that I am aware of. None of them are speaking up, so if this is an expression of interest then it's all yours.
 
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Shaneus

Member
Jintor said:
Got a spare five hundo Shaenus?
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Thanks for the tipoff! I think I spoke to that dude at PAX (assuming it's the same guy).

Gazunta said:
Good morning all, I DID ANOTHER INDY GAMING COMIC, SOMEONE STOP ME

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lol'd

Danoss said:
I don't know if this has been posted elsewhere, but Penny Arcade reopens the "dickwolves" controversy.



I thought the whole thing was blown out of proportion initially. It has to be accepted that no matter what you do, someone is likely to be offended and I'll agree with the sentiment that 'nobody has the right to not be offended'. The problem was, and continues to be, the response to people bringing it to their attention. They clearly have not learned anything. How hard is it to button your lip on these things? This thing had run its course and then he resurrects it from the dead to remind people that he and PA as a whole does not give a shit.

"Rape victim or transgendered? Come to PAX where we'll rub salt in those wounds" should be their tagline if this is how they choose to continue.

They cannot claim to be inclusive while espousing this rubbish. Fullbright already wanted nothing to do with PAX after the transgender debacle, and who can blame them? People who make rad things in my preferred form of gaming are clearly pissed about it, and rightly so. A number of tabletop RPGs (namely the indie scene) make a great effort to address and include all walks of life, because everyone should be able to enjoy themselves and game safely and comfortably with others (Games on Demand at GenCon and PAX will go to great lengths to do so and demonstrate the very definition of inclusive). A convention of like-minded people should be the perfect place for this to happen and it clearly isn't because one of the owners feels he should spread the product of his willful ignorance for all to see and hear.

I remember the PATV episode they made on drugs which dealt with anxiety, depression and the like. That seems completely disingenuous now. If anyone should understand the harm that can be caused, something that is intentionally being done, it's these guys. As a person whose depression and anxiety gets really damn bad without medication, I cannot have any respect for them anymore. To ignore the pain of another person, a patron of your show and a pain you can sympathise with, and to intentionally inflict it upon them knowing what it does, makes you an abhorrent human being.

It is linked to in the above article, but it was written elsewhere that Penny Arcade needs to fix it's Krahulik problem. It seems the only solution is for him to either shut down all forms of communication visible outside of the PA offices or it needs to be filtered by someone responsible.

Sorry for carrying on about it, I started to write a brief comment and it got a little out of hand.
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Don't apologise, tiger. You nailed it.
 
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jambo

Member
wonzo said:
I honestly can't see how anyone could give money to Gearbox after the last few buckets of shit they served up. Awful company.
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I can understand people not liking Borderlands, but it's hardly a bucket of shit.

Aliens CM on the other hand...

Also the Brothers in Arms games were great.
 
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evlcookie

but ever so delicious
At this point in time i'm not dying. Probably just a muscle or something that went crack and not pop.

Find out in a few days if i'm still alive or not.
 
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Fredescu

Member
The Borderlands 2 writing was half decent. The various stories were kept simple enough that you could follow them even if you didn't give a shit about them. Side quests have annoying meme content, yeah, like every other MMO or MMO style quest driven game that doesn't take itself too seriously.
 
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jambo

Member
wonzo said:
My biggest issue with Borderlands 2 was the utterly awful writing and obnoxious use of unfunny internet memes. Well, that and all the plagarism.
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I never understood the complaints about writing and memes. I've played about 120 hours of BL2 and the DLC and I honestly can't remember there being that many memes.

I actually found some of it quite funny, especially Torgue's Campaign of Carnage and Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep.

I suppose for me games are about the gameplay and not so much the story. Like Carmack said, "story in a game is like a story in a porn movie. It's expected to be there, but it's not that important."

The plagiarism stuff is pretty bad and I was pretty disappointed when I found out about that. Seems like they should've hired the guy who did that video.

wonzo said:
never forget
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I found that a bit weird too, seemed like they wanted to take advantage of the popularity of BL and apply the same formula to BiA.

AFAIK they changed it though, it's not a BiA game anymore.
 
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Dead Man

Member
Danoss said:
I will only stop anyone who tries to stop you.



This speaks volumes to me and to many others I'm sure. I'm just quoting this one so it's not a quote-fest reply, but acknowledge Jintor, Rep and Dead Man's replies.

PAX is a big deal and is great for gaming. It has the opportunity to really spotlight some of the great things the various aspects have to offer and it is using that. I love that it is bringing all these things under one umbrella for all to see and enjoy, because that should already be the case. They are hurting something great and need to stop.

Actions do speak louder than words, and to look at the positive things that PA does you can't fault them. PAX is a great thing for all of gaming and Child's Play is just a wonderful thing in general. But words back these things up and this is the root of their shortcomings. It is the beginning of their negative actions, like selling the Dickwolves T-shirts after this thing blew up.

I'm sure I'm just treading old ground here and am not adding anything to what my previous post said, but I did want to add something positive. When reading one of the articles on this, I saw a comment that said that rape jokes can be funny and linked an example (there's no denying that this is true and, as I and others here have said, the joke in the PA strip was fine and was not the problem). I thought it was going to be Louie C.K. and was pleasantly surprised to discover that it wasn't; it was a woman, it was tasteful and it was really damn funny. This is what I wanted to share with you.

Continuing the trend of positive things, I have some more things to share if there are any willing takers. The Annalise PDF has been snapped up by Box of Bunnies, Sorcerer hasn't had any takers yet, but I do have something new to add. I had been meaning to pick up Our Last Best Hope for a while now and purchased the book and its expansion last night. Much to my surprise I was offered the PDF with the print-only copy this morning (the author seems like a really nice guy in my exchanges with him). Since I now have 2 copies, one of them is on offer to a lucky person here.

wMGYSQl.jpg




If that sounds interesting to you, let me know and the game is yours.
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That stand up is awesome, I posted it in this thread: Can rape jokes ever be funny?

The game looks awesome too, not for me since I have no one to play with, but I really like the sound of it.
 
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Danoss

Member
codswallop said:
It's an expression of interest if I had a group, so not really, but thanks!
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No worries, I thought I'd check as I wasn't too sure if you wanted it or not. The offer is still there if no one else wants it and you'd like to read over it.

I know Banana has been looking into RPGing for a while (unsuccessfully?)...
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Just going to use this as a springboard for something directly related, I hope you don't mind.

AusGAF roleplaying will be resurrected. I have every intention of bringing it back, but many things have been getting in the way. I've been debating whether or not I would mention this because it's pretty serious, but I wanted to let you all know that I have not forgotten and mean it when I say I want to make some RP happen.

For the past few months it has been apparent that my gran has increased her intake of alcohol as a form of self-medication. It has made her unbearably irritable, reduced her appetite and thus her energy levels, it has made her depression worse and it has drastically hindered her memory. A combination of these things are not a good thing, especially for a person of her age and condition. Every day is a battle. I have quiet time throughout the day as she spends most of it in bed, lacking any interest in rising for even the things she used to enjoy. I use this time to do whatever needs doing without interruption, it is sorely needed. Of an evening she finally emerges and this is when things become rather difficult. She is belligerent, surly, mean and combative. Many hours can be lost trying to stop whatever tirade has begun that particular evening.

After trying to curb the drinking with concern and rationality, I could see that was going nowhere. My mum was also concerned, naturally, and expressed this to her in a better manner than I ever could. None of these approaches worked. She started hiding wine in the house, both full and empty casks, in an attempt to disguise the amount that she'd consume. I was already putting start and finish dates on the cask to monitor how much she was having, but it was at this point I started weighing them each morning and logging it in a spreadsheet to see how much she'd actually had. I was incredibly alarmed at what I found. The average was 1L per night with some peaking at 1.2 - 1.4L! I knew it was a lot, but it was worse than I imagined and it was on the rise.

The GP was on holidays and so I had to wait until he returned before I could take her to him. Other doctors were available, but this guy is really good and I trust him to do the best job possible to help her. He stressed to her how unsafe it is and the many things that stem from it, including the interaction with medications like Warfarin (a serious anti-coagulant for those not familiar). He was marvelous, even better than I expected, and she said she would cease altogether. Unfortunately, not 30 seconds after leaving his office, she wanted to travel to buy some more wine. This did not happen and no more will enter this house as long as I am here, else it will be destroyed.

It has now been 2 weeks since her last drink and she hurls abuse each night because I won't bring her any. The house is dry (of her wine, I still have my single-malts and such which go untouched by both of us) but that doesn't stop her belief that I have some tucked away out of her grasp. It is the same every night and some are better than others, but not by much. She could be difficult before, but this is on a whole other level where she'll intentionally do things in an attempt to push my buttons. Most of my evenings disappear into this black hole and I have not had the time nor the energy to do much else outside of it.

I just wanted to explain that I have not abandoned the plan for roleplaying with fellow AusGAF members. I am completely genuine when I say that I want to make it happen, it is just a matter of resolving or at least diminishing this issue before it will be possible. Even if I had the time to read the books and grok the rules to run a game, I would not have the uninterrupted time of an evening to execute it. Nothing would please me more than to see this eventuate, it would be most welcome.

I'm dealing with it just fine, but it is just time-consuming and tiring. Sans-meds this would be a different story, of course, I just thought I'd say so to let anyone know that it's alright and is just an explanation for 'what the hell is taking so long'. I hope it works out better for both of us soon enough and we can both enjoy life that little bit more.

Dead Man said:
That stand up is awesome, I posted it in this thread: Can rape jokes ever be funny?

The game looks awesome too, not for me since I have no one to play with, but I really like the sound of it.
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Some good stuff in that thread, thanks for sharing it or otherwise I wouldn't have seen it.

I'm not sure if I'll ever get around to playing the game either, but I hope it happens at some point. Most of my gaming group seems to like the more traditional roleplaying games and turn their noses up at a lot of the newer ones which I find interesting, so I'll have to look elsewhere for those particular ones. AusGAF may provide a little bit of something for everyone in that regard I would hope.
 
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Gazunta

Member
VKS' post in the Political thread got me thinking, what makes Australia "great"?

I'll start.

Uh...

Um...

Vegemite's pretty good, oh wait that's owned by Kraft isn't it....

er...

Sally Fletcher used to be alright...

um...

lil' help?
 
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Box of Bunnies

Banned
Gazunta said:
VKS' post in the Political thread got me thinking, what makes Australia "great"?

I'll start.

Uh...

Um...

Vegemite's pretty good, oh wait that's owned by Kraft isn't it....

er...

Sally Fletcher used to be alright...

um...

lil' help?
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Goon
Beam Software's International Cricket for NES
Life Support
Myf Warhurst

Yeah, comin' up short. Though those four together would make for a good weekend.
 
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Clipper

Member
Danoss said:
I just wanted to explain that I have not abandoned the plan for roleplaying with fellow AusGAF members. I am completely genuine when I say that I want to make it happen, it is just a matter of resolving or at least diminishing this issue before it will be possible. Even if I had the time to read the books and grok the rules to run a game, I would not have the uninterrupted time of an evening to execute it. Nothing would please me more than to see this eventuate, it would be most welcome.
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Take your time and sort things out as best you can, mate. We can certainly wait.

In the meantime, I do plan to give Star Wars: Edge of the Empire a run. I've been learning a lot about the game while waiting for my book to arrive, listened to a few podcasts, found a few adventure modules that seem really interesting and figured out how to get the dice to work in Roll 20.

The dice system seems really fun and I think it will help me not to make such a railroaded approach as my previous GM attempt. And the setting is something I'm actually familiar with, so I won't feel so daunted coming up with side-story on my own, which was probably the worst thing about my DnD campaign.

I still look forward to trying out your ones, as many of them have sounded very interesting, but hopefully this might drum up even more interest for when you have a bit more personal time.
 
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Shaneus

Member
evlcookie said:
At this point in time i'm not dying. Probably just a muscle or something that went crack and not pop.

Find out in a few days if i'm still alive or not.
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Before you croak, if you could call up about dinner and change the reservation to one less, that'd be a treat. Thanks buddy.
 
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