I thought you owned a PS3 Lexi?
I got up for the announcement and was pretty impressed. Not enough to buy on launch, but 9-12 months down the track and I'll likely pick one up.
Feels like 70% entertainment unit, 30% game console.
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I thought you owned a PS3 Lexi?
I got up for the announcement and was pretty impressed. Not enough to buy on launch, but 9-12 months down the track and I'll likely pick one up.
Feels like 70% entertainment unit, 30% game console.
I was never in danger of staying up for a video game (or in this case a TV (LOL)) thing.
Guess I won't be getting rid of my board game collection after all, not that I was really going to sell them; it was nothing more than frustration at the lack of people to play them with. Thanks to the new Xbox, I'll have more people to play with and they can call me a fag in person.
Guess I won't be getting rid of my board game collection after all, not that I was really going to sell them; it was nothing more than frustration at the lack of people to play them with. Thanks to the new Xbox, I'll have more people to play with and they can call me a fag in person.
FormallyMegadrive
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well I got some sleep
D:
Unity Game Engine Goes Free For iOS, Android And BlackBerry 10 Developers
http://techcrunch.com/2013/05/21/unity-game-engine-goes-free-for-ios-and-android-developers/
all that bitching at the computing department at UTAS to get us a unity ios export license... and now this happens. Fuck.
Just read this in the indie thread. Yaaay. No reason for me to hold onto my copy of Unity 3.whatever for the Ludum Dare Android and iOS licences i had.
For courtesy, can anyone who's linking to stuff re: the One maybe quote in a little paragraph or paraphrase the article as well? I'm at work and hate to think I'm missing out. Ta 
PS. This is a great post re: used games that someone made, that I can't quote properly because the thread am locked:
PS. This is a great post re: used games that someone made, that I can't quote properly because the thread am locked:
just heavy rain and some wind, doesn't seem much different from a bad day in syd really. subtropics are serious business i guess!
Wait. You can't use an Xwhateverbox without being connected to the internet at last part time, and game discs are one use only unless you are signed in to the account you registered them with? Yeah, good luck with that MS.
Bring them to Adelaide, we'll drink some beer and play some games.
Bring them to Adelaide, we'll drink some beer and play some games.
Luckily Steam games are $10 after a few months, not $80.
I'd imagine traffic congestion would be a lot worse over there during rain as well.
Point of entry for PC games is so comparatively low (with sales etc) I've never even thought about used trade-in. Mind you, I think it's more of talk about Steam as a Service blah blah blah
Yeah, so in context it's about making games more readily available for a lower point of entry
Yeah, so in context it's about making games more readily available for a lower point of entry
lol sounds like the conference was a fucking disaster. Amplified when you think about what the Australian used game 'fee' is going to be, and the TV shit because fuck Foxtel. And it's probably not even region free.
So my next gen is basically already decided.
This christmas (if 3D Mario is out) Wii U.
PS4 when the price is decent/maybe first revision (minus games from any companies with anti-used policies).
So my next gen is basically already decided.
This christmas (if 3D Mario is out) Wii U.
PS4 when the price is decent/maybe first revision (minus games from any companies with anti-used policies).
Yeah, I just find all this "You can't lend games to your friends?! You can't resell your games?! I'm going to stick to the PC where I can do neither of these things" to be pretty funny.
Console gaming is the last bastion of those things, that was one of the few things it had over PC gaming. If you can't do those things, it removes one more reason to bother with consoles.
That Gamasutra article is *perfect*. Honestly, the amount of social media interaction on the 360 was just fine at the level it was. Now it's infected every single little facet of everything that console tries to do. Fuck it, when I want to watch a movie, I'll just use my WDTV Live that doesn't have all that pervasive crap.
And they still think I want to control things with my hands. For games, sure, I can see that. But there's no future in which navigating menus will be quicker than using a control pad or remote. As quick as the response time can get for the Kinect or Move or whatever, any speed benefit it has over doing a few button presses is negated by the fact that a button press only requires a few millimeters of finger movement *at most*.
The shield stuff or whatever that doesn't require me letting go of the pad (or wheel or whatever) is fine (a la head-tracking) but don't try to convince me that using two arms to minimise a window or switch tasks is far easier than pushing that silver, glowing "X" button on my controller.
More I think about it, the more jaded I'm getting about the thing. I can only hope that as with one of the first PS3/PSN presentations where they had the face bubbles for chat or some shit, a lot of this will fall by the wayside or get tweaked enough so I can disable it completely.
And the Kinect tech didn't look any different to current stuff. Like someone mentioned elsewhere, I didn't see anything taking advantage of finger articulation at all. Not even canned, premade footage.
BTW I like that basically it'll be cheaper to go out and buy a new game on sale than to borrow one from a friend and buy it online. I'm surprised they wouldn't even offer some kind of thing where each copy assigned to you comes with a few hours "grace" play per week if you decide to lend it to someone. Bit pointless forcing someone to buy a game to play it if they might not even like it. It's like they're implementing a base security feature, but haven't thought AT ALL about the periphery of such a system, let alone the base usability or what consumers might actually think of such a system. PS. What happens when my HDD is full? Do I have to install it again next time? Like I mentioned earlier, 500GB should be enough to store 20x20gb games on there, which isn't all that much over the lifespan of a console (or even a year). Having to do a full install each time you want to play a random game you haven't played for a while is going to be a pain.
And they still think I want to control things with my hands. For games, sure, I can see that. But there's no future in which navigating menus will be quicker than using a control pad or remote. As quick as the response time can get for the Kinect or Move or whatever, any speed benefit it has over doing a few button presses is negated by the fact that a button press only requires a few millimeters of finger movement *at most*.
The shield stuff or whatever that doesn't require me letting go of the pad (or wheel or whatever) is fine (a la head-tracking) but don't try to convince me that using two arms to minimise a window or switch tasks is far easier than pushing that silver, glowing "X" button on my controller.
More I think about it, the more jaded I'm getting about the thing. I can only hope that as with one of the first PS3/PSN presentations where they had the face bubbles for chat or some shit, a lot of this will fall by the wayside or get tweaked enough so I can disable it completely.
And the Kinect tech didn't look any different to current stuff. Like someone mentioned elsewhere, I didn't see anything taking advantage of finger articulation at all. Not even canned, premade footage.
BTW I like that basically it'll be cheaper to go out and buy a new game on sale than to borrow one from a friend and buy it online. I'm surprised they wouldn't even offer some kind of thing where each copy assigned to you comes with a few hours "grace" play per week if you decide to lend it to someone. Bit pointless forcing someone to buy a game to play it if they might not even like it. It's like they're implementing a base security feature, but haven't thought AT ALL about the periphery of such a system, let alone the base usability or what consumers might actually think of such a system. PS. What happens when my HDD is full? Do I have to install it again next time? Like I mentioned earlier, 500GB should be enough to store 20x20gb games on there, which isn't all that much over the lifespan of a console (or even a year). Having to do a full install each time you want to play a random game you haven't played for a while is going to be a pain.
True that.
DarthHomer
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Who? WHO THE FUCK WOULD DO THIS?!
Who the fuck wants to have a fucking phone call on their fucking TV whilst trying to watch a fucking movie?
The same dickheads who think it's really cool to use their phones/tweet during a movie.
In other news, fuck the Liberal party and all who vote for them if this happens: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...opose-privatising-abc-sbs-20130521-2jz5d.html
Fucking hell. If the libs win by a large margin, I will be fucking ashamed of this country.
FallbackPants
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In non Xbox One news, I did a story the other day about a sustainable house. Nothing ground breaking, just a nice story about a brother and sister team doing something different. I then get an email from the architect demanding to know why they weren't credited.
I ignore it, assuming if I don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything. They sent two more asking the same question. So I finally replied saying pretty much what I said above.
I get an email back telling me not mentioning them wasn't "correct journalism" not to give them a free plug. I am using every last bit of my willpower to not tell them to get fucked.
Using a movie is close to the stupidest example they could have thought of. Do it while playing Forza 5. I'd do that. Or watching ESPN, but anything where you NEED to hear is just dumb.
I really don't agree with the Gamasutra article. Like at all. I have a tablet and use it pretty much non-stop. But I do that alone. The lounge room (where the TV is) is the heart of my house. It's where my housemate and I, or any guests, hang out. On the couch, in front of the TV.
It's probably not the most used screen in the house anymore, but it's by far the most important.
I ignore it, assuming if I don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything. They sent two more asking the same question. So I finally replied saying pretty much what I said above.
I get an email back telling me not mentioning them wasn't "correct journalism" not to give them a free plug. I am using every last bit of my willpower to not tell them to get fucked.
Who? WHO THE FUCK WOULD DO THIS?!
Who the fuck wants to have a fucking phone call on their fucking TV whilst trying to watch a fucking movie?
Using a movie is close to the stupidest example they could have thought of. Do it while playing Forza 5. I'd do that. Or watching ESPN, but anything where you NEED to hear is just dumb.
I really don't agree with the Gamasutra article. Like at all. I have a tablet and use it pretty much non-stop. But I do that alone. The lounge room (where the TV is) is the heart of my house. It's where my housemate and I, or any guests, hang out. On the couch, in front of the TV.
It's probably not the most used screen in the house anymore, but it's by far the most important.
And they say gamers are entitled wankers.
Different strokes, I guess. Depends on how many people you live with, *who* you live with, that sort of thing. Given I live by myself, I don't really have a central "hub". If some of that stuff was implemented with me in my current situation I *may* be inclined to use my TV a little more, but in general I don't like sitting at a distance from something I'm interacting with beyond using a controller or a remote, if that makes sense. As in, if I'm controlling an avatar on the screen or I'm switching channels or whatever, cool. But if there's a constant, unbroken two-way stream of interaction, then I like to be close to that device, whether it be a PC monitor or tablet/phone screen. Bringing up browsers (and hell, even just browsing things like the XBLA and PSN stores) are exercises in things that I just want to get out of the way.
Does that make sense? I dunno.
I see it being somewhat different if I was in a different situation, but from where I'm standing, I see them trying to cater to an audience that really doesn't want the sort of thing that was featured in Beyond 2000 twenty years ago. They may be covering all bases with some people (like you, for instance) but they seem to be convoluting the process for someone who's used to just putting in a disc and pressing "Start".
Fuck the self-entitlement ethos that's ravaging humanity at the moment. From suing restaurants that serve coffee that's too hot to burglars who want compensation for being injured during a robbery, and what you posted... ugh.
Speaking of which, that reminds me of a funny "rumour" I heard on talkback radio yesterday. Apparently (allegedly) some people, during the night, broke into a house and stole a plasma TV they saw during an open-house inspection earlier that day. Problem being, it was one of those display TVs like at Harvey Norman that's just made out of plywood and resin or whatever. Dipshits.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
I wouldn't be surprised if PS4 has a similar thing to XBONES "game discs are just data backups for your digital license" used game pass deal. The fact that they were kinda coy on the issue earlier and aren't coming out to stomp it while the issue's hot suggests that it's not something they want to draw attention to.
Yep!
Yep!
SMH this country is fucked
It is the One box to do everything. Or something.
FallbackPants
Member
Yeah that makes sense dude. I'm pretty surprised you're not more hyped for Forza though. But I too would have liked to have seen PGR.
I'm not sold on it yet, but I don't have the hate it seems a lot of GAF has. Like I said, TV is just as big of a past time as gaming is. What I did like though was that they showed something new. I came out of the PS4 announcement kind of dissapointed. I thought it just looked like more of the same but shinier. Xbox One at least does new stuff.
I'm interested to see what new Kinect can do. No finger tracking is a shame, but from the (pretty limited) first impressions I've seen so far it looks way more impressive than the first. But we all know how that turned out last time.
Honestly at the moment I see the announcement as trying to target tech enthusiasts rather than gamers. It's getting good, pretty positive, coverage in mainstream media outlets. They probably figure they can turn negative sentiment around here at E3.
pieatorium
Member
They didn't want nintendo to corner the market on consumer confusion
It's so amazing how terrible the current Labor party is (or terrible at marketing themselves) in that it's pretty much a sure thing the current Liberal party will be in government come September.
LOL
Yeah, if the alternative to Labor wasn't so bad, I would want them to lose just for being so shit at selling the good things they have done.
FallbackPants
Member
This is from Wired. Pretty much sums up my feelings about PS4 v Xbox One. Obviously their 3DS line is a bit overstated
Of course, people also seem to be in favour of open ecosystems instead of walled gardens, especially ones that have no life in them unless you are in the US.
Honestly I have no idea. Seems obvious though....
pieatorium
Member
PS3 has netflix etc, don't see why ps4 wouldn't. All the other tv related stuff was just using kinect instead of a remote and US only sega CD style addon right?
I keep seeing this case pop up. The applicant in this case suffered severe second degree burns within 3 seconds and initially only sued for her medical costs. WcDonalds absolutely had a duty of care not to serve magma in a cardboard cup.
reptilescorpio
Member
I would expect Foxtel will be the #1 app since they push it hardcore on 360.
Lots of upcoming TV's (and just released ones) are coming through running Android. There will be no need for a lot of what the XO is proposing as LG/Samsung/et al get up and running, they need to diversify the damn product after all!
You forget the PS2 juggernaut! Xbox was dumped because it struggled and they needed to reboot the brand.Don't expect a lot of 360 support for long guys
360 is still selling well around the world and into developing markets.
XO will not have backwards compatibility.
EA will want FIFA 2016 on 360/PS3 like they did (still do?) on PS2.
The 360 will still be around for another 2 years or so. I bet there are still 12 months worth of XBLA titles banked up waiting for release yet so it would be fucked if they pulled the pin before then lol
Exclusives.
Off TV gaming (Vita)
This makes me fucking angry. Because I don't fuck around with the console I can't play these BC games? Not cool! Come on MS!
Makes it less of a reality since they are loading the OS up with so much shit. I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY THE NEED SO MANY OS
I CANT HOLD ALL THESE OS
HO HO HO
Only some PSP games. Otherwise I would tell you to buy the fuck out of Burnout Legends (Ed: i.e. THE BEST BURNOUT EVER).
It takes a lot of effort to emulate that hardware/OS configuration. Once the back is broken it is a matter of making slight changes to the Emulation to keep in within that spec box.
Was a big issue with PC games over the years dude!
I think it will be another 8-10 year generation. Console games won't disappear unless someone really gets into the TV arena hardcore to cut out boxes all together and steam these games directly into a TV (Android is a stepping stone to the future of TV's!).
Most new TV's have internet browsing built in too don't they? At least 42 inch and up I thought. Android sticks are cheap now too, $25-99 for a good quality device to treat the TV like a tablet/phone/media streamer.
STOP BREATHING SO MUCH YOU ARE KILLING THE POUR RAIN!huh, there's a black rain signal here in HK
meaning i dont have to go to work cos it's raining, or was raining heavily so yay! though i guess it's kinda serious since like schools are closed and like the stock exchange is suspended for morning trade..rain doesn't look that bad but whatevs yo!
Wait, I've seen no articles on the women.
What women developers were on stage?
Was widely reported, not just by Serrels
Money is money! If Microsoft sell 100 million consoles that is $30 million!
Wifi killed the TV star.
You only need to make sure the game pings Microsoft servers every 24 hours.
Stop being so entitled!
You only need your account if you don't want to pay another $120 for a licence to play it on your friends profile!
Stop being so entitled!
MS marketing slogan: "Stop being so entitled!"
Makes sense, Liberals like to sell everything off to make it look like the budget went well! Kinda like Sony this last financial year. Sell assets! Cover losses!
In Malcolm we trust!
Bleh. We got roped into a similar situation. Doing a bathroom for some needy person. Our PR/Marketing people are spinning like a top trying to get as much exposure as possible out of it.
Are you surprised that negligence cases are misrepresented in the media? It's why we ended up with Howard's stupid tort reforms.
FallbackPants
Member
Nah the add on means plugging your cable box in. I can't find the story about it, but I read they wanted to include HDMI cable input (America) as well as IPTV and broadcast TV.
reptilescorpio
Member
3DS had no games. It started to sell well when it got games.
Vita had no games. It started to sell well when it got games (and then plummeted again when no games followed up that burst). It also got zero marketing and only minimal first party support. At this point Sony are just, "Vita games? Meh. Once the PS4 is out we push it as a WiiUpad. Easy."
WiiU had no games. It still has no games. It will start to sell well when they hit at Xmas with the tentpole Nintendo titles hitting to save the day.
PS4 looks to have games. Lots of games. Lots of marketing.
XO looks to have games. Lots of games. Lots of marketing.
Yeah, its sad that the case turned into a joke when it was pretty awful, and became this rallying cry for 'we are going crazy sue happy!'
I don't think people are surprised, they just don't need it any more. I can already do everything I want from what the XONE offers. Except play those games. They were too slow, and a set top box is never going to rule anyones living room if it is as limited as a closed console system is bound to be.
