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AusGAF 9 - F*** Off, We're Full (Of People With Different Ethnic Backgrounds)

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Kritz

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Ventron

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How many red-eyed Aussies still staying up?

I heard a rumour at GDC that I'm surprised hasn't been mentioned since. The nextBox could be doing away with Xbox Live Arcade, and its downloadable store will be more open to developers ala iPhone App Store. I know it sounds crazy but my source was very good, so...
 
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markot

Banned
Durr, one.

I like how a simple nintendo direct can bring gaf to its knees, while an xbox reveal and its running like buttah.

Wow, so ugly too...

Microsoft... haha.
 
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Shaneus

Member
Well, this fucking sucks. If you didn't catch it:
(from Google Cache. It's since been removed from the MS website):
Editor’s Note: Today is an exciting day for Xbox. This morning we shared our vision for a new generation of games, TV and entertainment. We wanted to address some top questions we’ve seen from our fans, so here we go.

Q: Does Xbox One require an “always on” Internet connection?
A: No, it does not have to be always connected, but Xbox One does require a connection to the Internet. We’re designing Xbox One to be your all-in-one entertainment system that is connected to the cloud and always ready. We are also designing it so you can play games and watch Blu-ray movies and live TV if you lose your connection.

Q: How do consumers benefit by being connected to the cloud?
A: The cloud makes every experience better and more accessible. Because Xbox One is powered by the cloud:

Your games have more power available to create new gameplay, persistent worlds, and deeper experiences.
Your system and games can update automatically, so you shouldn’t have to wait for downloads or updates.
Your games and entertainment are stored and saved in the cloud, so you can access them anytime, from any Xbox One.*
Start a game, movie, or TV show on one console and finish exactly where you left off on another.
You can play multiplayer games with your friends, stream movies or TV shows right away, and enjoy the community and social features of Xbox Live.
Xbox One can recognize you, log you in and tailor your home screen just for you.

You can discover what your friends are playing, watching and listening to if they choose to share.
These are just a few examples of how customers benefit from our platform being connected to the Internet. It brings the future of TV and games to our consumers—and it’s designed for today and the decade ahead.

* Subject to content geographical restrictions.

Q: When will Xbox One launch and in what markets?
A: Xbox One will launch in markets around the world later this year. We’ll have more to share later.

Q: Can I use my current gamertag on Xbox One and will my Gamerscore and Achievements transfer?
A: Yes. Your current Xbox Live Gamertag will stay with you on Xbox One if you choose to keep it, and your hard-earned Gamerscore and Achievements will indeed carry over from Xbox 360.

Q: Will Xbox One be backward compatible with my existing games?
A: Xbox One hardware is not compatible with Xbox 360 games. We designed Xbox One to play an entirely new generation of games—games that are architected to take full advantage of state-of-the-art processors and the infinite power of the cloud. We care very much about the investment you have made in Xbox 360 and will continue to support it with a pipeline of new games and new apps well into the future.

Q: Will Xbox One allow players to trade in, purchase and play pre-owned games?
A: We are designing Xbox One to enable customers to trade in and resell games. We’ll have more details to share later.

Q: Will my current Xbox Live Gold membership work with Xbox One or will I have to buy a new one?
A: You do not need to buy a new Xbox Live Gold membership. Your current membership will work on both Xbox 360 and Xbox One.

Q: Why require Kinect with every Xbox One?
A: The all new Kinect is now an essential and integrated part of the platform. By having it as a consistent part of every Xbox One, game and entertainment creators can build experiences that assume the availability of voice, gesture and natural sensing, leading to unrivaled ease of use, premium experiences and interactivity for you.

Q: Do I need to have a specific cable or satellite TV provider to watch live TV on Xbox?
A: Our goal is to enable live TV through Xbox One in every way that it is delivered throughout the world, whether that’s television service providers, over the air or over the Internet, or HDMI-in via a set top box (as is the case with many providers in the US). The delivery of TV is complex and we are working through the many technologies and policies around the world to make live TV available where Xbox One is available.

Q: Xbox One is a more powerful product compared to Xbox 360, but does it also use more power?
A: No. By providing multiple power states in Xbox One, we’ve balanced energy efficiency with functionality. We’ve taken a completely different approach to how Xbox One consumes power. It only uses the power it needs at that particular moment for the task at hand.
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So all your XBLA titles as well as your 360 games are completely useless as far as the new console goes. Couple that with no PGR on launch, and I'm not only thoroughly underwhelmed, but actually pissed off.
 
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Lafiel

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I can't believe none of the next-gen consoles have BC for any of their DD titles. It's funny how Nintendo is the only company that have managed to implement it; despite their terrible DRM.:p
 
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evlcookie

but ever so delicious
Lafiel said:
I can't believe none of the next-gen consoles have BC for any of their DD titles. It's funny how Nintendo is the only company that have managed to implement it; despite their terrible DRM.:p
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Considering about 1% of the userbase uses it though, it's no surprise they drop it. BC just isn't all that important to them and sony is trying to at least do it via cloud gaming.

I decided not to stay up for it, I figured it would have killed me today since I have to stay back a little longer at work to fill in for someone else.

Sounds like I missed a fucking terrible conference which would have made for some excellent mumble and text chat.
 
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Dead Man

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Well, that seems to have been a bit.. underwhelming.

Xbox huge meme will be returning I guess. Seems like lots of US features, and lots of peripherals.

Also seems like you may as well hook up a PC to your TV rather than get it unless you want the nonPC games from MS.

evlcookie said:
Considering about 1% of the userbase uses it though, it's no surprise they drop it. BC just isn't all that important to them and sony is trying to at least do it via cloud gaming.

I decided not to stay up for it, I figured it would have killed me today since I have to stay back a little longer at work to fill in for someone else.

Sounds like I missed a fucking terrible conference which would have made for some excellent mumble and text chat.
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I thought it would be not hard for MS to imlement since it was using the same architecture this go around. I mind less when it would be technically diffiuclt. When it is a purely commercial decision, it grates.
 
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reptilescorpio

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I am so happy I slept through hahahahahahaha
On a happy note the boy slept through until 6:30am for the first time in 3 weeks! Yay! I actually feel alive for once!

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YO DAWG I HERE YOU LIKED THE XBAWKS SO HERE IS THE XBAWKS WON AGAIN

Dat rear panel though
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Aside from slot loading. Hoped everyone dropped that, annoying for maintenance.

Oh also you need to plug shit into it to work. Which won't even launch in Australia. So it is just a bawks with games. IMOKAYWITHTHAT.JPG

Cheevos carry over! Yay! I can still play Avatar this week knowing it will go towards it! Event cheevos like on Steam will be awesome.

EA are releasing all their tentpole titles! Yay! They aren't exclusive! Okay, why this event then? OH YEAH, EXCLUSIVE DLC! YAY!

New Call of Duty is 60 FPS! Also not exclusive. Also Dawgs. Also not exclusive.

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New Remedy series! Woo! Pretty much makes it worth buying a XO. Actually, I'll wait for the superior PC port again, that was awesome!

THING IS FUCKING HUGE! EVEN THE KINECT HAS BEEN TAKING SPINACH INJECTIONS
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DDR3 VERSUS DDR5 GO!

DDR2 AM CRY :( :(
Konami should have trademarked all those sequels.

Also the Blu Ray drive means that every game sold on XO retail will lead to money going to Sony lol

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It's hard to follow perfection. I am disgusted but will wait to hold one after their awesome job with the 360 controller.

On the new Xbox, all game discs are installed to the HDD to play. Microsoft did say that if a disc was used with a second account, that owner would be given the option to pay a fee and install the game from the disc, which would then mean that the new account would also own the game and could play it without the disc.
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10/10 for this reveal Microsoft! Great lols were had.

Ventron said:
I heard a rumour at GDC that I'm surprised hasn't been mentioned since. The nextBox could be doing away with Xbox Live Arcade, and its downloadable store will be more open to developers ala iPhone App Store. I know it sounds crazy but my source was very good, so...
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Nope. That is more like how Sony are doing things.

Shaneus said:
So all your XBLA titles as well as your 360 games are completely useless as far as the new console goes. Couple that with no PGR on launch, and I'm not only thoroughly underwhelmed, but actually pissed off.
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It was a gibbon dude. New architecture. Plus buy back your old games! Yay!
 
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Lafiel

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evlcookie said:
Considering about 1% of the userbase uses it though, it's no surprise they drop it. BC just isn't all that important to them and sony is trying to at least do it via cloud gaming.

I decided not to stay up for it, I figured it would have killed me today since I have to stay back a little longer at work to fill in for someone else.

Sounds like I missed a fucking terrible conference which would have made for some excellent mumble and text chat.
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Oh I disagree, I think due to the nature of having a DD library. I believe more than 1% would have loved to have played their past XBLA games on the Xbox One if microsoft allowed for it.
 
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evlcookie

but ever so delicious
I'm certainly not saying the lack of backwards compatibility is ok, more about understanding why they decided to leave it out in the first place. As much as some gamers would like to claim, I don't think the majority of people give a toss about it.

Plus when the people who complain about the lack of backward compat but jizz and buy the HD remakes... well then fuck.

People are just stupid.
 
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Dead Man

Member
evlcookie said:
I'm certainly not saying the lack of backwards compatibility is ok, more about understanding why they decided to leave it out in the first place. As much as some gamers would like to claim, I don't think the majority of people give a toss about it.

Plus when the people who complain about the lack of backward compat but jizz and buy the HD remakes... well then fuck.

People are just stupid.
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No argument there :)
 
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Shaneus

Member
Rep summed most of it up best for me. Still unsure of their decision to not include BC, not for disc-based titles but XBLA ones. So all my digital 360 purchases can't be played on the next console at all? And how long wil day 500gb last if every game has to be completely installed and will likely be at least 20gb? You can only have around 20 games active?

I honestly thought MS would knock it out of the park with this, but I honestly don't see what they could possibly announce at E3 that makes up for fee-based borrowing and no BC. Oh, and essentially always-online.

Fact that they spent a good chunk of their presentation on a Halo TV show (wtf) and longer than anything else on a game that's not even fucking exclusive just blows my mind.

Honestly thought that the only thing they'd have to do is show a console and it's be game set match on PS4, but they managed to botch it completely with some truly bizarre design choices. SMH.
 
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evlcookie

but ever so delicious
I can certainly understand the need for a HD remake, but it really is making sweet money.

Some old games look like ass. I tried to play burnout 3 last year and I couldnt tell the pixels apart while dricing, it was a mess. Emulate it with some downsampling, antialiasiang and what not, fuck it lookes good, was easily playable

Would have been nice to get something like that in a console but it doesn't make them money.
 
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senahorse

Member
Here's how the system works: when you buy an Xbox One game, But what if you want to bring a game disc to a friend's house and play there? You'll have to pay a fee—and not just some sort of activation fee, but the actual price of that game—in order to use a game's code on a friend's account. Think of it like a new game, Harrison says.

"The bits that are on that disc, you can give it to your friend and they can install it on an Xbox One," he said. "They would then have to purchase the right to play that game through Xbox Live."

"They would be paying the same price we paid, or less?" we asked.

"Let’s assume it’s a new game, so the answer is yes, it will be the same price," Harrison said.
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LOL that's glorious
 
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Shaneus

Member
evlcookie said:
I'm certainly not saying the lack of backwards compatibility is ok, more about understanding why they decided to leave it out in the first place. As much as some gamers would like to claim, I don't think the majority of people give a toss about it.

Plus when the people who complain about the lack of backward compat but jizz and buy the HD remakes... well then fuck.

People are just stupid.
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But there won't be any equivalents to HD remakes of the vast majority of games people have already bought. It's not like people are expecting Crackdown, but actually knowing that anything I buy on XBLA can't be played on their new box? Solid guarantee I'll never buy another thing on there again, DLC or otherwise.

You seem to be underestimating just how many people have bought digital content this generation versus the last. Not such a big deal last time, because it was largely full retail games. Now, people have GoD, enourmous DLC catalogues (a la Rock Band) and proper games that they've all shelled out money for. And with their "unified" entertainment box, MS are asking you to keep your old 360 AND Kinect if you want to play Fruit Ninja with your kids again.

evlcookie said:
Would have been nice to get something like that in a console but it doesn't make them money.
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Could if they left the marketplace open. Imagine if they had an instant library of thousands of proven games already at their disposal, ready to sell. How many of those can they sell to people with the new device? How much money will they be making off them? Fuck all.


PS. Just saw that TV thing. Truly a joke that its US only and requires an external device. I actually thought through the presentation that they included a tuner card and would work basically everywhere. Now I know that all shouting "Xbox tv" does is switch to HDMI input #2. lolz
 
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senahorse

Member
Oh I will still get one for exclusives, well once I see more of them at E3. The 5GB DDR3 available for games bodes well for multi-plats though.
 
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reptilescorpio

Member
evlcookie said:
I'm certainly not saying the lack of backwards compatibility is ok, more about understanding why they decided to leave it out in the first place. As much as some gamers would like to claim, I don't think the majority of people give a toss about it.

Plus when the people who complain about the lack of backward compat but jizz and buy the HD remakes... well then fuck.

People are just stupid.
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PS3 did fine without BC. In fact, it was doing fucking awful until they dropped BC to cut the price of the damn thing. In the end despite being 12 months behind the 360 it has sold a similar amount of consoles!

Also the 360 has/had fucking lazy BC with only a bunch of titles done early and then no more.

Also people are indeed stupid. Like (some) idiots who refuse to buy a game because it has a new voice actor, despite pleading and bitching and moaning for the sequel in the first place. This is the world we live in. :(
 
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senahorse

Member
The camera can also capture video at 60 frames per second for two-way services like Skype—but more impressive still are the Kinect’s tracking capabilities. It’s now so sensitive that it can measure your pulse by monitoring pigmentation change in your face. (It’s partially done via infrared light, which means it works regardless of skin tone.)
The original sensor mapped people in a room using “structured light”: It would send out infrared light, then measure deformities in the room’s surfaces to generate a 3-D depth map. However, that depth map was lo-res to the degree that clothing and couch cushions were often indistinguishable. The new model sends out a modulated beam of infrared light, then measures the time it takes for each photon to return. It’s called time-of-flight technology, and it’s essentially like turning each pixel of the custom-designed CMOS sensor into a radar gun, which allows for unprecedented responsiveness—even in a completely dark room.
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If it works as well as it sounds, that will be pretty cool for exercise games, time for a P90/X video game.
 
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Shaneus

Member
reptilescorpio said:
PS3 did fine without BC. In fact, it was doing fucking awful until they dropped BC to cut the price of the damn thing. In the end despite being 12 months behind the 360 it has sold a similar amount of consoles!

Also the 360 has/had fucking lazy BC with only a bunch of titles done early and then no more.

Also people are indeed stupid. Like (some) idiots who refuse to buy a game because it has a new voice actor, despite pleading and bitching and moaning for the sequel in the first place. This is the world we live in. :(
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I was just expecting BC to be something like a SOC as something tiny and inexpensive, or even the rumoured add-on device.

Right. Now everyone stop posting for about 30 mins or so, it's a right cunt trying to reply using my iPhone. Cheers.
 
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reptilescorpio

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So is Brute Force 2 coming or what?

E3 will have the exclusives, they already said that a week ago. Would have been nice to see more than just Remedy though.

Shaneus said:
Honestly thought that the only thing they'd have to do is show a console and it's be game set match on PS4
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Wait, why would you think that? PS4 has been really well received.

Shaneus said:
But there won't be any equivalents to HD remakes of the vast majority of games people have already bought. It's not like people are expecting Crackdown, but actually knowing that anything I buy on XBLA can't be played on their new box? Solid guarantee I'll never buy another thing on there again, DLC or otherwise.

You seem to be underestimating just how many people have bought digital content this generation versus the last. Not such a big deal last time, because it was largely full retail games. Now, people have GoD, enourmous DLC catalogues (a la Rock Band) and proper games that they've all shelled out money for. And with their "unified" entertainment box, MS are asking you to keep your old 360 AND Kinect if you want to play Fruit Ninja with your kids again.

PS. Just saw that TV thing. Truly a joke that its US only and requires an external device. I actually thought through the presentation that they included a tuner card and would work basically everywhere. Now I know that all shouting "Xbox tv" does is switch to HDMI input #2. lolz
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You sound like an entitled gamer! Harrison would be disappointed in you man.

Also these events are never meant to be 'real'. Gotta assume the bullshots, or in this instance, faking on stage hardware capabilities.

Shaneus said:
I was just expecting BC to be something like a SOC as something tiny and inexpensive, or even the rumoured add-on device.
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Yeah that is a big disappoint for me tbh. Was pretty cool with the $99 add on idea.
 
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FallbackPants

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randomrosso said:
Well I for one am excited about the Nextbox. Hopefully it is released this year for us.
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I'm actually pretty stoked too. While most people over on gaming seem pissed about it including TV stuff I'm more concerned that it won't be here fast enough. It looked pretty damn impressive. Realistically I spend more time watching TV than playing games to that works for me.
Also 15 first party games in the first year is pretty good. I'd just like to see more (any?) of them.

$10 says it does a Kinect and takes off to the hardcore's disgust. The Skype stuff and picture in picture is pretty impressive from a mainstream perspective.

Lafiel said:
Oh I disagree, I think due to the nature of having a DD library. I believe more than 1% would have loved to have played their past XBLA games on the Xbox One if microsoft allowed for it.
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That's the bummer of BC for me. I don't care that I have to play 360 games on my 360, I think I used it to play OG Xbox games like twice. But not being able to play downloaded XBLA games sucks. Microsoft is going to want to build up the arcade library pretty quickly now.

Rahk said:
How are you going to watch Halo: The Television Series on your PC??
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I realise this is sarcasm but that was a minor megaton for me. By the end of that youtube series I was digging Forward Unto Dawn, give it time and money and it could be awesome. On the other hand like every other Speilberg sci fi TV show has been pretty balls
 
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