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AusGAF IV - A No Hope, Government - Double the price, region locked and now adults

I like all the Doctors except the seventh. They are all a product of when they were made, tight budgets and an alarming lack of time. The 7th Doctor stories were made in the late 80's with better budgets and effects than before yet manages to look cheaper than ever. Poor Sylvester McCoy. (I have a Tomorrow People avatar right now- I know cheap British SF shows when I see them)

That said, one of my top 5 original Doctor Who stories is one of his.

As for new Who. I definitely think the Tennant era floundered a bit once you get to season four. That last two-parter when he regenerated was just god-awful.

Moffat and Smith much better.
 

Jintor

Member
I don't know why, but I really liked the 5th Doctor.

It was his cheerful demenour and the sprig of... whatever it was in his lapel, I think.
 

midonnay

Member
I've only seen the first episode of the rebooted series..... but it was so horribly corny. I think it had garbage bins attacking people...

haven't seen another episode since.

I remember the old ones on abc. I think it was tom baker. Watched it until he turned into some blonde guy in a white suit.
 

Fogz

Member
ClivePwned said:
I like all the Doctors except the seventh. They are all a product of when they were made, tight budgets and an alarming lack of time. The 7th Doctor stories were made in the late 80's with better budgets and effects than before yet manages to look cheaper than ever. Poor Sylvester McCoy. (I have a Tomorrow People avatar right now- I know cheap British SF shows when I see them)

I put up with the poor episodes just for Sylvester McCoy
 

Dead Man

Member
Fogz said:
I actually like the 6th Doctor, he was just never given much of a chance on the shows. The books and audio plays featuring him are really good and the commentary tracks Colin Baker does for the old DVDs is amazing. He remembers every small detail from episodes he filmed 30 odd years ago.
I like Colin Baker, I just didn't like his Doctor. Although, he does seem to be growing on me these days, maybe it's time I gave him another chance.
 

Deeku

Member
midonnay said:
إذا كنت تستطيع قراءة هذا المقال، أن طعم في الفم هو من كرات بلدي شعر. التمتع بها.
"If you can read this article, that taste in the mouth is the hair of my balls. Enjoy."
 
Dead Man said:
I like Colin Baker, I just didn't like his Doctor. Although, he does seem to be growing on me these days, maybe it's time I gave him another chance.


Different costume and slightly less 'detached' manner and the terrible flowery dialogue and Colin Baker would be higher up my list. He had a pretty good first season and not so good second season.

He should have played have should played the Doctor like he did when he appeared in Blake's 7
http://youtu.be/UfPkCqQmNnQ

aw nuts, now I want to to go and watch Blake's 7 again

I've moved on from Retro games, but not Retro TV.
 

Fogz

Member
Dead Man said:
I like Colin Baker, I just didn't like his Doctor. Although, he does seem to be growing on me these days, maybe it's time I gave him another chance.

Oh the episodes are still pretty bad. One of the Trial of a Timelord episodes though they let him have a bit more freedom to do The Doctor the way he wanted to. That one is the better portrayal of the 6th Doctor on screen and is more like what he does in the audio plays. IMO his character becomes more like the 5th Doctor.
 
midonnay said:
I've only seen the first episode of the rebooted series..... but it was so horribly corny. I think it had garbage bins attacking people...
It was mannequins, and basically a remake of an earlier popular episode. That said, this is exactly what turned me off it. I heard such good things about Matt Smith last year I had a crack at his episodes, and before the end of the first episode knew I was already hooked, which is not common for me.

So give the fifth season (from 2010) a try, as it's a completely different show. Eccleston did get better, but by the end of the first season it was obvious he hated the job, which is why he quit.
 

Jintor

Member
commanderdeek said:
I had something slightly more offensive but that works too!

:lol :lol :lol

codswallop said:
So give the fifth season (from 2010) a try, as it's a completely different show. Eccleston did get better, but by the end of the first season it was obvious he hated the job, which is why he quit.

It sucks that he left on what appears to be bad terms. Means we'll never get a modern Three Doctors episode :<
 

Choc

Banned
again if your business model relies on people destroying their lives, your business is model is SHIT

how can the AFL say that when they just signed the biggest TV deal in sport
 
reptilescorpio said:
Why do I continue to exist in this fucking moronic world. Burn it all to the ground and start again. Maybe then economics and morality can exist hand in hand.
You're in the source code.
 

midonnay

Member

Jintor

Member
Mmm, delicious No More Heroes: Heroes Paradise on PS3 with Move controllers. Now that I've got a non-bricked PS3, I set it to Sweet and bashed my way to the 6th Rank in about 5 hours instead of the 8 or 9 it took on Mild. :T

Worth it. Suda really can't do combat so well.
 

Clipper

Member
OK, did stage 5, which is the engines. Final step was taking this:
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and mating it to this (yellow to yellow and red to red in both parts):
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to be left with this:
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I'm at page 175 of 221 and loving it, but time for another break.

Jintor said:
Mmm, delicious No More Heroes: Heroes Paradise on PS3 with Move controllers. Now that I've got a non-bricked PS3, I set it to Sweet and bashed my way to the 6th Rank in about 5 hours instead of the 8 or 9 it took on Mild. :T

Worth it. Suda really can't do combat so well.
I loved the motion controls on Wii. However, the tilt point on the Move controls is set too low or something, so I ended up switching to normal control fairly early on. One of the jobs also seems impossible to get a gold medal with move controls too (The new semaphore one, I think... it was my tipping point to switch).
 

Jintor

Member
Ah, good to know the Semaphore one isn't just broken for me.

The 'slash down' move control command seems to be borked...
 

Echoplx

Member
So I'll be getting some Kooka's cookies for the first time ever on Tuesday, they better be damn good for $4.50 a packet >.>
 

legend166

Member
The AFL is being dumb here. I can see why the NRL jumped on board with the Clubs, because so many NRL clubs absolutely rely on pokies. AFL clubs have really only just started to go down that road. This is a chance to see where the NRL went wrong and bail out - not continue on with it.

Seriously, Leagues Clubs/RSLs in this state are so weird. You guys from outside of NSW can't understand it. they are essentially mini casinos. It's just the weirdest feeling walking into an RSL like the one at Dee Why, and basically 70% of the space is dedicated to gambling. That's what our servicemen died for - so people could have their money sucked out of their pockets!

Sigh.
 

Salazar

Member
3chopl0x said:
So I'll be getting some Kooka's cookies for the first time ever on Tuesday, they better be damn good for $4.50 a packet >.>

1. Split the halves.
2. Contemplate which half to eat first.
3. Make the right choice: chocolatey half first, non-chocolatey second.
 
3chopl0x said:
So I'll be getting some Kooka's cookies for the first time ever on Tuesday, they better be damn good for $4.50 a packet >.>

Eating these right now on an Ausgaf tip... So good. Didn't get the chocolate ones though.
 

Yagharek

Member
legend166 said:
Seriously, Leagues Clubs/RSLs in this state are so weird. You guys from outside of NSW can't understand it. they are essentially mini casinos. It's just the weirdest feeling walking into an RSL like the one at Dee Why, and basically 70% of the space is dedicated to gambling. That's what our servicemen died for - so people could have their money sucked out of their pockets!

Sigh.

Spot on. Although the suburb in Australia with the highest per capita number of machines is glenorchy in tas: one of the highest unemployment rates in the country is there too.

Poker machines are a cancer on society, as are the clubs that have co-opted rsl reputations to boot.

WA oddly has it correct. No poker machines outside of casinos, anywhere. The trade off is skimpy nights for barmaids.


If your business can't survive without gambling income, you shouldn't be in business. Parasites the lot of them.

Hell, even fucking McDonald's does more community work than clubs, by funding junior sports and cancer charities.
 
legend166 said:
The AFL is being dumb here. I can see why the NRL jumped on board with the Clubs, because so many NRL clubs absolutely rely on pokies. AFL clubs have really only just started to go down that road. This is a chance to see where the NRL went wrong and bail out - not continue on with it.

Seriously, Leagues Clubs/RSLs in this state are so weird. You guys from outside of NSW can't understand it. they are essentially mini casinos. It's just the weirdest feeling walking into an RSL like the one at Dee Why, and basically 70% of the space is dedicated to gambling. That's what our servicemen died for - so people could have their money sucked out of their pockets!

Sigh.

The thing that bothers me about this situation the most is the whole argument 'it will hurt the community'. Fucking hell pokies are destroying communities.

Also just from the standpoint of sporting teams. Maybe this will have a positive effect on clubs anyway. Less people pissing away their money on pokies means more people who can actual afford to do things with their leisure time (including watching sports).
 

Choc

Banned
the conflicted views was Jeff Kennett and is right on.

Beyond blue should sack him from their board if he supports this bullshit going on
 

midonnay

Member
RandomVince said:
Hell, even fucking McDonald's does more community work than clubs, by funding junior sports and cancer charities.

to make matters worse, the community benefits argument the afl clubs put out is also bullshit.... just about all of it goes back into their operations.

http://www.theage.com.au/national/pokies-community-cash-spent-on-afl-clubs-20091003-ghbm.html

AFL clubs that own pokies venues spent a record $35 million on the community last financial year - but a damning analysis shows most of the cash went back into the football clubs and their gaming venues.

In the most extreme case, premiers Geelong appears to have used a new gambling law loophole to claim the entire costs of running the football club as a community good.

In its community benefit statement lodged last week with the gambling regulator, the Cats said they spent $21.3 million on the community. Collingwood was the next most generous, with a community contribution of $3.4 million from three venues.
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Under the law, pokies venues run by clubs - including AFL clubs and RSLs - must show how they are spending at least 8.3 per cent of their revenue to benefit the community. If they cannot prove this spending, they are taxed 8.3 per cent of revenues.

But despite the large community benefit claimed, Geelong contributed nothing under the 12 philanthropic categories of community benefit, which include the relief of poverty, educational scholarships and the protection of the environment.

Instead, the Cats' statement shows $2.1 million for maintaining and providing its facilities, and $18 million for ''operating costs''. Thanks to a little-known footnote in a ruling by Gaming Minister Tony Robinson, for the first time, this year clubs can claim all payments to players and officials as part of the operating costs of their pokies venue. The club gave a statement to The Sunday Age saying its community benefit declaration met with the requirements of the legislation.

But Dr Charles Livingstone, a senior lecturer at Monash University's department of health social science, said it appeared Geelong had claimed almost all of its costs of running the football club as a community benefit. While legal, it went against the spirit of the regulation.

''A footy club that exists to pay large amounts of money to talented football players is not really a community benefit,'' he said.

But the Victorian Commission for Gambling Regulation disagreed. Executive commissioner Peter Cohen told The Sunday Age the regulations ensured a club operated to genuinely benefit its members. ''If the clubs are using their gaming machines revenues to support the activity of the football club as a community benefit, then that is what the members would wish them to do.''

Dr Livingstone's analysis shows that of the $35 million claimed by AFL clubs as a community benefit, $29 million was claimed as operating costs. Under the ''Class A'' categories, which define genuine charitable purposes, the clubs gave $6.2 million of their profits.

But Dr Livingstone found that even under Class A, the clubs were claiming costs of running the sport, such as the $747,789 for Visy Park Stadium declared by Carlton as a community benefit.

Other clubs claimed their licence fees to the AFL. The Western Bulldogs claimed Brad Johnson's 300-game portrait and signed football guernseys.

After The Sunday Age exposed last year's premiers for paying themselves more than $2 million as a community benefit, the Hawthorn Football Club this year put $596,280 into the category of ''philanthropic or benevolent purpose''.

The money went to community programs, camps, multicultural programs, charities and the RSL, among other things, a spokesman said.

The Hawks also donated $27,390 for Black Saturday survivors under the category of disaster relief. It was one of only a handful of clubs to do so.

Dr Livingstone said some of the clubs, especially Essendon and the Bulldogs, had made significant contributions to the broader community.

Rebecca Harrison, spokeswoman for Mr Robinson, said the new guidelines clarified that community benefits include a range of matters, including philanthropy in the broader community and for individual clubs.

When asked whether the minister would prefer football clubs to better balance the money they give to the broader community and to the club, Ms Harrison did not respond.
 
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