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Woo! Refugees sent back to the dirty foreign holes they crawled out of! Nelson saves us from the dirty brown people. Again! WOO!
The imagery just makes me think that Scott Morrison wouldn't look out of place in the first fleet.
That's fake, right? I can't tell any more.
I just walked out to the lunch room and had a look, unfortunately that's real. Now considering the origin of that photo was GWB and the mission was essentially a complete failure I don't know what the Courier Mail is going for here.
This is hilarious given the context of that picture. Surely someone must've realised?
Somewhat less boat related, maybe not even directly political, but I thought this might be interesting. ABS figures on employment per industry: http://media.crikey.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Workforce-breakdown-Aug-2014.pdf
That's what I was thinking. Is there some pissed off staff at the Courier Mail who's pissed about the tripe they have to put together so they did this? Or are they just idiots?
The manufacturing section is very telling, more than halved in the last 20 years.
old people refusing to die
*stares at unread copies of saturday paper & trot rags*
"where else but queensland"
Luckily that mining sector was there to pick up the slack, right?
Dastardly Jerks
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Upvoted comments on all Murdoch paper social media articles about how they should be beheaded.
... Y'know, before they're even convicted.
Who's the real terrorists here?
I tried a few different graphs, but with so many data points the typical line graph seemed the most readable, but I am far from an excel guru.
The ones actually making plans, assuming there is evidence.
Dastardly Jerks
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Exactly. I want to see evidence, and a conviction. Only once they pass the system and are deemed as so, then I'll want justice. So far the reports of plans to drape random people in IS flags and behead them are horrific.
(Just reread my post and I realise it can be implied that *I'm* the one that upvoted them. I didn't. They're at the top because of the majority of Murdoch rag readers.)
(Just reread my post and I realise it can be implied that *I'm* the one that upvoted them. I didn't. They're at the top because of the majority of Murdoch rag readers.)
What on Earth does "Professional, Scientific & Technical" cover? I'm pretty comfortable with the scientific bit, but the others are very broad...
Also, thanks for the graphage, x3n05
Edit. And geez, while mining and agriculture have halved - that mining graph. Barely even moved in any real sense. I for one am glad we're putting all our eggs in that basket. Why the hell is the government taking money *out* of science, given it's the only sector to actually double?! Well science and whatever the rest of "professional and technical" cover...
Also, thanks for the graphage, x3n05
Edit. And geez, while mining and agriculture have halved - that mining graph. Barely even moved in any real sense. I for one am glad we're putting all our eggs in that basket. Why the hell is the government taking money *out* of science, given it's the only sector to actually double?! Well science and whatever the rest of "professional and technical" cover...
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A while back the ABC did a special report on the development of these sorts of extreme views related to the spread of Islam in Australia. They didn't have to look far to find all the examples one would expect; harassment by street gangs, loitering around schools and intimidating students because they follow the "wrong" religion, stalking and even recording women on public transport because of what they were wearing, propaganda videos with footage from recent conflicts in the ME on youtube, facebook etc...
Of course none of the right wing nationalists engaging in these sorts of activities could see the similarities to radical Islam.
I couldn't tell if you were talking about the Islamic people or the right wing nutters until I got to the end.
It's unfortunate that these psychotic religious extremists are enabling the psychotic religious
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-18/key-senator-accuses-spies-of-creating-moral-panic/5753232
Oh yay. What perfect timing.
Oh yay. What perfect timing.
I didn't misread your original comment, I knew what you meant and assume you are not a News Ltd comments writer/upvoter.
I disagree with the death penalty, but I don't think people clamouring for the death penalty are terrorists as your post implied. I just think they're right-wing reactionary dumb-dumbs.
I'm worried that the consequences of this plot will be more justification of the invasion of privacy of law abiding citizens under the guise of "national security". I'm glad they stopped the alleged plans from going ahead (no pun intended), but I don't like the probable outcomes this is going to have for everyone else.
Today's news events must have made for a right wing wonderland amongst those who want to fight fire with fire. Especially the opinionated columnists. Let's see how far they try and push things this time a la Alan Jones and the race riots.
As we know, the Abbott Government is a humanitarian government who wishes to intervene in Iraq purely out of humanitarian concerns for the people of Iraq, which is why earlier this year they cut the aid budget to $0
(though let us not pretend that Labor was not quitely filing away at that number whenever they could either)
(though let us not pretend that Labor was not quitely filing away at that number whenever they could either)
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Cross post from the other thread:
One of the raids took place right around the corner to where I used to live (there were raids in Brisbane too, I expect due to the upcoming G20 meeting). I must have driven past that house hundreds of times. I'd be very interested in seeing just what was going on in there.
I have a few concerns about this, quite apart from the possibility of getting stabbed, beheaded or worse by someone who lives in my neighbourhood.
The first is that because no attacks were actually carried out, it might be difficult to charge them with any actual crime, especially the lower-level guys where it may not be possible to prove intent. A dude collecting knives in his house is very suspicious, frightening even, but not illegal. Some of these guys, despite every intention of carrying out murders in public, may have to walk free.
The second is whether this was an overreaction by federal police to a non-threat. I'm less concerned about this as it'll all shake out in court, but it will mean some very angry young Muslims will be feeling rather marginalised and persecuted if it all turns out to be nothing.
The third is the Australian public and the political class's reaction to this. Stuff like this is always followed by calls to crack down and be tough, the temptation being to restrict civil liberties in the name of making us safer. Foreign policy wise, we're at the US's beck and call (in the event of a real war on Australian soil, we're pretty much doomed without American help) and I'd hate to see us goose-step our way toward becoming a police state.
Woah now, this a civilised country with a body of laws. Should they be found guilty in court, I'm sure a lengthy imprisonment should suffice in terms of justice.
One of the raids took place right around the corner to where I used to live (there were raids in Brisbane too, I expect due to the upcoming G20 meeting). I must have driven past that house hundreds of times. I'd be very interested in seeing just what was going on in there.
I have a few concerns about this, quite apart from the possibility of getting stabbed, beheaded or worse by someone who lives in my neighbourhood.
The first is that because no attacks were actually carried out, it might be difficult to charge them with any actual crime, especially the lower-level guys where it may not be possible to prove intent. A dude collecting knives in his house is very suspicious, frightening even, but not illegal. Some of these guys, despite every intention of carrying out murders in public, may have to walk free.
The second is whether this was an overreaction by federal police to a non-threat. I'm less concerned about this as it'll all shake out in court, but it will mean some very angry young Muslims will be feeling rather marginalised and persecuted if it all turns out to be nothing.
The third is the Australian public and the political class's reaction to this. Stuff like this is always followed by calls to crack down and be tough, the temptation being to restrict civil liberties in the name of making us safer. Foreign policy wise, we're at the US's beck and call (in the event of a real war on Australian soil, we're pretty much doomed without American help) and I'd hate to see us goose-step our way toward becoming a police state.
Well Cory the nutjob is already back out there calling for a burka ban again. And yeah, I fear whats spewing out of talkback radio right about now. Will also be interesting to see if the protests grow and what impact that has.
It took 800 cops to arrest 4 people. Was there an option not to find anyone thinking bad thoughts?
Just last month a farmer murdered his three kids, wife and then committed suicide. The reasons are thought to be driven by financial desperation. Worst than a beheading and very likely preventable.
We are now going to spend an extra $400 million dollars a year fighting a 'mission' in Iraq. Money leaving our country.
The details of 'Operation Sovereign Borders' have been released alongside the raids to cool criticism. It also shows the PM's office knew about the raids and decided to go public on both.
Which also means he knew the timing would cut short his time in Arnhem land. The raids would have been planned well in advance. Fobbing off the Aborigines to fight a propaganda war they don't care about, the priorities of the indigenous affairs minister.
Just last month a farmer murdered his three kids, wife and then committed suicide. The reasons are thought to be driven by financial desperation. Worst than a beheading and very likely preventable.
We are now going to spend an extra $400 million dollars a year fighting a 'mission' in Iraq. Money leaving our country.
The details of 'Operation Sovereign Borders' have been released alongside the raids to cool criticism. It also shows the PM's office knew about the raids and decided to go public on both.
Which also means he knew the timing would cut short his time in Arnhem land. The raids would have been planned well in advance. Fobbing off the Aborigines to fight a propaganda war they don't care about, the priorities of the indigenous affairs minister.
That's actually a really good point, how did I not realise that
This is why I refuse to be afraid of terrorists and governments that would use their threats to ensure the populace is "alert, not alarmed". Politics of fear from both sides (albeit with different methods).
More people die in more tragic circumstances thanks to:
1. Institutional abuse and cover-ups that go all the way to the top (churches, UK establishment)
2. Victims of economic fraud (global financial crisis, farmers driven off the land due to the coles/woolworths cattle making it uneconomical).
3. War on welfare recipients, making life unliveable for many people with disabilities, acquired or otherwise, physical or mental, who cannot make steps to get independence and appropriate care.
4. Indigenous poverty.
5. Returned veterans and/or their families who are ignored despite risking life and limb and sanity for nationalistic goals.
But as soon as someone threatens to cut a head off, instant response because its a relatively easy problem to tackle. Meanwhile, thousands of others die because of issues that are ignored and have been for years.
You are pretty terrible. You forgot to mention Haliburton.
Up your game terrorists, Team Australia's racking up more damage than you are
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-20/police-officer-set-on-fire-in-molotov-cocktail-attack/5757700
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-20/police-officer-set-on-fire-in-molotov-cocktail-attack/5757700
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-...honours-policewoman-killed-by-taliban/5758324
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The irrelevant old man comes out to play
John Howard slams Julia Gillard in Sunday Night interview for playing the misogyny card
White men shouldn't slam women, people of colour, etc., for playing a card when the deck is stacked.
John Howard slams Julia Gillard in Sunday Night interview for playing the misogyny card
White men shouldn't slam women, people of colour, etc., for playing a card when the deck is stacked.
Ive never understood that saying. If I have cake, I have it because I intend to eat it.
It means that you can either have your cake (ie keep it) or eat it. You can't eat a cake while also keeping it (presumably for future consumption). It's a pretty confusing phrase though, and that's before you take into account that fact that in the right context 'have' can be synonymous with 'eat'.
Dastardly Jerks
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You can't export your coal and use it too.
You can't turn back boats and be humanitarian too.
You can't have budget cuts and have functioning basic services too.
You can't turn back boats and be humanitarian too.
You can't have budget cuts and have functioning basic services too.
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