I forgot he did that. Bye, indeed.
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I forgot he did that. Bye, indeed.
CrazedProfessional
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Haha, I looked at The Sunday Mail and they're reporting that the LNP's plan was to make Scott Emerson stand down and parachute Newman into an Indooroopilly by-election. Meanwhile they would try to parachute Emerson into a Federal senate seat.
Glad that shit didn't happen.
Glad that shit didn't happen.
agreed
But it will almost certainly be a Labor majority or minority government.
the shirt
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oh.
So it looks like KAP would be more likely than not to support Labor and Peter Wellington won't even talk to the LNP.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-...2015-kap-ready-to-cut-deal-with-labor/6060296
roosters93
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agreed
Can you explain the shirt to me lol
bobnowhere
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This is something the LNP really need to think about Australia wide, why they have such a poisonous relationship with independents and third parties. It seems like the vast majority of independents are ex-Nats, ex-rural Libs, popular locals running against Nats or Libs or ex supporters who start new parties with the sole intent of screwing the LNP over.
Blaming the born-to-rule attitude is too easy, but damn trying to win elections under a prefferential system without a friend in the world makes it a whole lot harder.
Well back when Newman was mayor of Brisnbane he was known as Can-do Campbell because people liked him back then.
Sound it out
roosters93
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Prime Minister Tony Abbott considered his close personal friend, The Australian newspaper's Greg Sheridan, for the plum posting of high commissioner to Singapore after the 2013 election (smh).
Very interesting. Fortuitous (or not) timing for this to come out. Wonder why it took so long.
I like how the article refers to Sheridan's own article a few years ago about Abbott punching the wall besides a woman
Never gets old.
Ah I though it might be him, cheers
I got that part lol
Just didn't know who it was referring to
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level-headed fb post by Darren Chester MP about the LNP woes
Very interesting. Fortuitous (or not) timing for this to come out. Wonder why it took so long.
I like how the article refers to Sheridan's own article a few years ago about Abbott punching the wall besides a woman
Never gets old.
Ah I though it might be him, cheers
I got that part lol
Just didn't know who it was referring to
edit:
level-headed fb post by Darren Chester MP about the LNP woes
Candescence
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Here's the problem with the 'let the voters elect the leader' logic: that's not what the voters actually do in this country. If this were the USA, that might actually hold water, but the Prime Minister is merely the guy representing the political party currently in power.
Other people have pointed out that the Rudd-Gillard dysfunction was due to the former being booted out of the top job with absolutely no explanation to voters, and he was actually popular at the time, Rudd was kicked out by the Labor powerbrokers. Rudd proceeded to undermine Gillard until he finally got back in, and that actually narrowed the election result.
Tony Abbot, by comparison, is doing really badly in terms of popularity and dragging his party through the mud, so it wouldn't be difficult for the Coalition to actually justify replacing him with a more popular leader, as long as that doesn't cause more uncertainty for them. Unfortunately, with the whole "born to rule" mentality, Abbot may take being unseated before the election even worse than Rudd did, which may be disastrous for the Liberals.
Other people have pointed out that the Rudd-Gillard dysfunction was due to the former being booted out of the top job with absolutely no explanation to voters, and he was actually popular at the time, Rudd was kicked out by the Labor powerbrokers. Rudd proceeded to undermine Gillard until he finally got back in, and that actually narrowed the election result.
Tony Abbot, by comparison, is doing really badly in terms of popularity and dragging his party through the mud, so it wouldn't be difficult for the Coalition to actually justify replacing him with a more popular leader, as long as that doesn't cause more uncertainty for them. Unfortunately, with the whole "born to rule" mentality, Abbot may take being unseated before the election even worse than Rudd did, which may be disastrous for the Liberals.
Muskieratboi
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Ah, Australia. The only country where we can wear t-shirts with wordplay-based profanities on national television at a political rally. XD
disgusting, reasonableness is completely unaustralian
D.Lo
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Ditching Abbott would be nothing like the knifing of Rudd. Rudd is historically the most popular PM of all time.
Abbott is the equal least popular PM of all time historically, with Gillard. Nobody will care when he goes. It will be more like Rudd replacing Gillard to stem the bleeding than the knifing IMO.
Hopefully it happens. I really don't want Sharten in.
EDIT: Actually come to think of it, the reason they can give to the public for ditching Abbott will I think be satisfactory to the public. It will be "You hate us (via poll numbers), so we're showing we're willing to change. We'll change everything now. Sorry about that Tony thing"
That actually matches the way Gillard et all tried to play off the Rudd knifing to the public (poll numbers). Except that it was a lie in that case, as no PM had ever lost an election with the numbers Rudd had, he had the best ever election slogan available (whole world = GFC, Australia = no recession) and of course they actually did it for personality reasons.
Elaugaufein
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I'm hoping they put up Bleijie. But that's for our benefit rather than his or theirs.
Not expecting that much today. Abbott will deliver speech that attempts to out out fires about his leadership and he'll be able to go into cabinet meetings over Tuesday/Wednesday with party backing.
As much as I dislike Abbott, politics in Australia will be broken if he steps down or a challenge is mounted against him this week.
As much as I dislike Abbott, politics in Australia will be broken if he steps down or a challenge is mounted against him this week.
Edit - I'd rather have the Roast back.
Broken? I don't know about that. It would just be another instance of polis choosing the safety of trying to keep their jobs rather than standing up for what they believe.
In a way it reminds me of the whole XBone saga, where I do kind of wish they launched it as advertised and let it play out.
manipulate
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CrazedProfessional
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Abbott is most likely cooked, News Limited is reporting more than half of the backbench refuse to support or talk to him.
Fairfax is reporting a Turnbull PM and Bishop dream ticket with Morrison as Treasurer is what's being discussed.
Fairfax is reporting a Turnbull PM and Bishop dream ticket with Morrison as Treasurer is what's being discussed.
bobnowhere
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Stronger, stronger, stronger, stronger, stronger, stronger, a goner, stronger, stronger, stronger, labor bad, debt bad, reform, reform, reform, Rudd, Gillard, Rudd...
Amazing he still hasn't learned a thing.
Amazing he still hasn't learned a thing.
Onto the boats and carbon tax now. Genius speech writers.
Aarglefarg
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"Only the Abbott government" "Only the Abbott government"
bobnowhere
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Haha home loan interest rates low and stable. Of course below what Hockey described as emergency levels.
I don't know why he bothered to show up, he could have just sent a video of let's say, every other speech he's made.
Wow he even implied Labor were un-australian for daring to question his anti-terrorist laws.
I don't know why he bothered to show up, he could have just sent a video of let's say, every other speech he's made.
Wow he even implied Labor were un-australian for daring to question his anti-terrorist laws.
Yup. Stoking that xenophobia now.
Aarglefarg
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Lots of national security talk, stoking fear about terrorists in our suburbs. And advocating weakening privacy.
I don't know about him being more gone from this speech.
On to PPL now.
I don't know about him being more gone from this speech.
On to PPL now.
bobnowhere
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I'm not changing the GST rate or base, but if it does change,
it's all Bill Shortens fault!
because I've starved the states of revenue,
bobnowhere
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Joe Hockey looks like a beaten man.
Aarglefarg
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Abbott really turned me against him in the context of this speech taking shots at Victoria paying to not build the toll road. Blame the liberals for signing a contract right before the election to make that the case, for Labor to fulfil their promise.
bobnowhere
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and then calling the electorate "Absent Minded" for daring to vote against the Coalition.
What the fuck did I just miss? Did he just give a speech or something?
Damn.Infrastructure PM!
bobnowhere
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What on earth was he going on about with MH370 when asked about Captain's Calls?
Finally Michelle Gratten calling him out!
Finally Michelle Gratten calling him out!
You see, this Australian government makes difficult calls no other Australian government has ever made. Calling MH17 a disaster is such a monumental task for any government.
Edit: Wait, did he confuse the flights? I'm 99% sure he got the flights wrong.
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