And save TAFE. Thats already come up a fair bit.
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And save TAFE. Thats already come up a fair bit.
He's John Elliott's (pigs arse, if you remember Fast Forward, and president of Carlton Football Club) son. He's horrific to listen to on the radio, I honestly can't believe 3AW ditched Derryn Hinch for him :/
Saw him on that stupid grumpy show, where they have middle aged people bitching about stupid stuff, he was on there with his dad and made senior look like a wonderful human being.
Utter wanker.
Yes. That he is, and that show did a wonderful job of showcasing it.
bobnowhere
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I'm starting to think tomorrow might be closer than we think. First the Japanese PM said that a change of leadership would affect them selling subs to Aus. Clearly the subs were a palm greasing to get the free trade agreement across the line and with Joe saying in December there wasn't time for a tender, those SA jobs were clearly gone.
Now the PM is saying the SA builders will be able to tender for the subs in a message to Sen. Edwards(LIB) from SA. Now we know Abbott changes his opinions like a weather-vane, but damn it must be close for him to change at this late date. Does show how much he cares about SA and the 1000's of jobs that only seem to serve his personal ambitions.
https://twitter.com/alicemonfries/status/564305466302275584
Now the PM is saying the SA builders will be able to tender for the subs in a message to Sen. Edwards(LIB) from SA. Now we know Abbott changes his opinions like a weather-vane, but damn it must be close for him to change at this late date. Does show how much he cares about SA and the 1000's of jobs that only seem to serve his personal ambitions.
https://twitter.com/alicemonfries/status/564305466302275584
bishops really the only one that can lead the libs to victory and i'm really surprised people think the man behind UTEGATE has the competency to run anything, let alone a political party to victory
in the slim chance the spill fails to get the numbers tomorrow i really can't see tone helping the alp in nsw all that much.
in the slim chance the spill fails to get the numbers tomorrow i really can't see tone helping the alp in nsw all that much.
He can read his prepared speeches and make coherent arguments at least.
I think this past decade in Aussie politics has proven that you don't even really need to be known or a good option, you just need to be not the other guy
It's a strange position they're in. The longer they keep Abbott the further they'll sink, but if they turf him now they'll suffer a hit in the polls for that, then a further hit closer to the election when people realise that nothing has actually changed.
But is keeping him at the front for another 1.5 years just so people don't realise he's more representative than they think worth the damage he'll do to them in that time?
But is keeping him at the front for another 1.5 years just so people don't realise he's more representative than they think worth the damage he'll do to them in that time?
manipulate
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http://theliftedbrow.com/post/110371159423/tone-ask-hiz-kabinet-4-halp-want-more-tone-click
forgive me auspoligaf if this is a repost
but my god that pyne
forgive me auspoligaf if this is a repost
but my god that pyne
viciouskillersquirrel
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That hurt to try and parse.
Sure, but there's an extra step to not even being known among the electorate.
In truth you have to so a little better than be "not that guy" to win in this election in NSW. But Labor dies need to win back a number of their old seats to be competitive in future.
D.Lo
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It's Julian Morrow from The Chaser!
Doesn't mean much at a state level. State opposition leaders are almost always invisible until an election campaign, or if they do something stupid (e.g. Brogden).
Well its not like we get to vote on Premiers.
Nothing surprises me any more. If you want to be known on radio, be an obnoxious, racist, libertarian cunt.
bobnowhere
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Not quite:
Considering it now agrees with Galaxy and Newspoll has always been more conservative, the next Galaxy could be 60-40!
I wouldn't be surprised it the backbenchers attend the meeting tomorrow with rolled up copies of The Australian with iron bars inside and beat Abbott out of office. Again all this couldn't possible happen to a nicer bloke!
Yep journalists giving newspoll rumours are pricks. DAMN THEM! Burt that is still bad for Abbott but I still think he'll hang on tomorrow unless some frontbenchers are willing to risk their jobs.
Though my ultimate dream is that it is either a tie or one vote either way that would be awesome.
Also the Newspoll Wikipedia article has been updated to include Abbott's polling in a historical context (hint: it's bad).
So who will be watching ABC24 tomorrow morning.
Aarglefarg
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Also noteworthy, regarding ratings for "Better Prime Minister" ranked among opposition leaders: "Malcolm Turnbull recorded the equal-second lowest, with 14% (2729 November 2009)."
Among Prime Ministers on the same "Better Prime Minister" measure: "Tony Abbott has the second-lowest career-low "Better Prime Minister" score with 30% (6-8 February 2015)."
Though I realise after that these are comparisons to Rudd 09 and Shorten 15 respectively so it isn't a fair comparison.
I will, my alarm is set for 6am but I'll catch a little coverage on my phone as I'll be heading to work when it's all expected to happen. I have Tuesdays off so I was looking forward to watching the vote coverage being on Tuesday but Abbott went and spoiled it for me. This is the last straw!
CmdrShepard
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This stuck out to me in ABCs interview with Abbott this arvo. (starts at 1:30)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-08/tony-abbott-says-spill-motion-a-chastening/6078560
This reeks of Tony essentially buttering up a certain section of his own party room to help shore up numbers. He is essentially changing policy for votes, except this time instead of for the taxpayer and the voting public, but for the party room...
He really needs to go. He is great to laugh at and everything but he could be doing this for months if he holds onto power now everytime someone mentions leadership challenge. Imagine what he would offer some of his party room if he survived this spill and another came up down the road?
Aarglefarg
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Bernardi says there are cabinet ministers are calling around on Turnbull's behalf.
It seems like it will be a secret ballot so a few cabinet minsters will probably vote for the spill.
Aarglefarg
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There is talk today that there won't be much privacy as they will be tightly packed in and they can see how people near them are voting.
So I guess ministers will have to be extra careful.
Pretty much and if it's closer than that then it will put a serious dent in the NSW campaign.
CmdrShepard
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Tony needs it to be a resounding no to the spill motion above around 75-80.
Open and Honest Government
Or the closer it is.
bobnowhere
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Wow, that's closer than I thought. Only a matter of time now tones.
Aarglefarg
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Definitely in the problematic range.
Let's see what happens.
Let's see what happens.
Spotless Mind
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Probably the best result i could hope for right now. Leadership speculation will only continue and cause appearance of disunity. I love it...
Elaugaufein
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It's better than the amount of the electorate that don't want him there at least
Shorten ? Is that you ?
PhantomZone
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Well the process made a mockery of those saying he'd be gone today, so much for Tony not being pm after the meeting 
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