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AusPoliGAF |OT| Boats? What Boats?
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Sutton Dagger
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I never thought if be this ashamed to be associated with Australia. From the Front page of Daily Tele from Sat.
"Assylum seekers will be denied free government advice on lodging claims and launching appeals under a controversial Coalition plan to end taxpayer-funded support for boat arrivals".
"Assylum seekers will be denied free government advice on lodging claims and launching appeals under a controversial Coalition plan to end taxpayer-funded support for boat arrivals".
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A More Normal Bird
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You're entitled to your opinion but I would like to ask why you think they blew it (beyond the infighting etc... which I don't think many will disagree with you on). Objectively speaking, the Gillard government was very successful legislatively in a hung parliament, the tax burden is lower than it was under Howard even with the Carbon and Mining Taxes, cost of living pressures are lower than under Howard and infrastructure spending is increased. The stimulus Rudd delivered saved the country from recession and the arguments most often used to discredit that achievement don't stack up; the mining sector shrank during the GFC so it didn't save us, and as the Federal government issues the currency and therefore isn't revenue constrained the surpluses delivered under Howard and Costello weren't essential prerequisites for stimulus either (beyond their impacts on inflation).
On a different note, it's interesting to contrast the 'destabilisation' tactics of Turnbull and Rudd. Most of the media commentary on Rudd seemed to focus on things taking place behind the scenes whilst publicly he would be very much the team player, excluding the two challenges. On the other hand Turnbull has criticised a number of Abbott's/his party's policies very publicly, even during the election, but can seem to use the notion of a "broad church" to avow his support for the leader. I'm guessing the main difference is that the Coalition haven't ever been that close to reinstating Turnbull, whilst Rudd and his supporters were always there in the background.
Doing my poking through party platform thing. Man, figuring out which otherwise votable parties are total busts for being anti-gay marriage (or in some cases anti-homosexual entirely) is a bust.
Oddly enough Palmer's party, compared to the Democratic Labour Party and the Christian Democrats, is actually not horrible.
Shout outs to Rise Up Australia, who seem outwardly normal and then their same-sex marriage page (and their Burkha page actually) is a fucking screed on how goddamn scared they are about homosexuality being considered normal.
Oddly enough Palmer's party, compared to the Democratic Labour Party and the Christian Democrats, is actually not horrible.
Shout outs to Rise Up Australia, who seem outwardly normal and then their same-sex marriage page (and their Burkha page actually) is a fucking screed on how goddamn scared they are about homosexuality being considered normal.
First class journalism right here folks...
i_am_ben
running_here_and_there
That would be interesting given the extremely different funding models that each state has for the Vocational Education sector.
Also I'm not sure whats going on regarding the whole "funding tools for apprenticeships" thing. That's been funded for years. I suppose it's just more money.
Hoya Destroyer
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Then vote below the line and have a minor party first. Labor is still the better option as the leading party.
What do you feel will improve under a Liberal government?
Tim the Wiz
Banned
This mentality doesn't sit right with me. Forget the media circus, what policies matter to you? If that's still Liberal and not Labour, then fair enough.
Such lousy logic. Don't focus on how bad the previous government has been without looking forward to the next one. You'll end up with every election focusing on what the current government hasn't done and it'll end in voting in someone worse. This cycle continues. Abbott seems to be improving next to nothing but the thought process is "It can't be worse than what we've already got!"
roosters93
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CrazedProfessional
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The best voter is a blindfolded one, I guess.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
One last week of an Abbott free government.
Elaugaufein
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Its usually because people think the Greens policies are considerably more extreme than they are.
Hold me.
But I liked the snark of the first answer.
Yeah, I'm not on board with their nuclear position, and some of their environmental positions lack evidence to support their position I think, but on the whole, that's about the only things I thing they have wrong.
Elaugaufein
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But I liked the snark of the first answer.
I decided this thread wasn't the appropriate place for such.
Pretty much where I stand too. Their nuclear position isn't incomprehensible (the risk may be small but the consequences are massive) but there are other ways to address the issues.
bobnowhere
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I wonder if developing some sort of hallucinogenic drug dependency for the next 3 years would be viable.
Probably not. Though I have a stockpile of alcohol ready should it be needed.
Stop the votes!
My wife is doing a postal vote, the Senate paper is taller than my son.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/th...scue-12-years-on/story-fni0fiyv-1226708300676
Good piece on the kids that were on the Tampa, taken in by New Zealand, and not relaly being drains on the economy. (Video at the link as well)
Okay, one person organising multiple parties is ludicrous. That needs to be shot down.
Good piece on the kids that were on the Tampa, taken in by New Zealand, and not relaly being drains on the economy. (Video at the link as well)
Fair call.
Okay, one person organising multiple parties is ludicrous. That needs to be shot down.
If anything gets the Liberals into government this time, it's the "voting for a change" people. Ugh, such a superficial and incredibly dangerous reasoning for voting a government in. And they know it, too... the only ad campaigns I've seen from the Coalition that aren't negative are "time for change".
It's a complete fallacy.
Watching Paul Keating's 1996 concession speech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1WpWSGQ82w&lc
Very interesting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1WpWSGQ82w&lc
Very interesting
That worked so well for Queensland. Public sector completely gutted, etc, we now have a plutocracy.
Preferential voting needs a "fuck you" option. Like, you number however many you want and then the rest get nothing, so if all your preferences fail, your ballot is then void.
Or something. It's very hard to feel anything but absolute resentment for the system knowing that you have to imply some level of approval for shitty parties.
That was precisely my experience. The name seemed a bit suspicious, but their policy page had a bunch of really sensible ideas. Then you get about 20 items down and things get terrible.
Or something. It's very hard to feel anything but absolute resentment for the system knowing that you have to imply some level of approval for shitty parties.
That was precisely my experience. The name seemed a bit suspicious, but their policy page had a bunch of really sensible ideas. Then you get about 20 items down and things get terrible.
Box of Bunnies
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Germans were just after change when they voted the Social Democratic Party out in 1932, too.
Godwin or go home.
roosters93
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They didn't mention the magnifying glasses! Journalism is dead.
Thought this was interesting/horrifying/suicieinducing
agearticle said:
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ffs
I agree entirely. I would rather throw away my vote than preference in some homophobic bunch of [REDACTED]
bobnowhere
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Oh how I'd love to see Abbott
Though wasn't some of the crazy parties disproved especially in SA as Xenophon's default vote wasn't taken into account on Antony Green's website?
Rudd? Absolutely.
The Optional Preferential Vote combined with Preferential Above the Line voting would own so hard.
I think it's cool that they don't have any other hidden agendas, really. They just want to put high speed rail on the agenda no matter what other political views their supporters may have. Their website looks really dodgy though, especially that "buy a commemorative ticket" thing. Sounds like a scam.
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