-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
AusPoliGAF |OT| Boats? What Boats?
- Thread starter Bernbaum
- Start date
- Status
Can we all just take a moment to reflect on how utterly incompetent Abbott was as a leader. He survived less time than Gillard, who had to contend with minority government, a hostile media, Rudd constantly white-anting and rampant misogyny, whilst he had total party unity and the explicit support of our media. Truly a political pygmy.
Also relevant: http://www.sbs.com.au/comedy/articl...ushed-hospital-after-overdosing-schadenfreude
Also relevant: http://www.sbs.com.au/comedy/articl...ushed-hospital-after-overdosing-schadenfreude
abbott will go down as the worst prime minister this country ever had. period the end
depends if he changes policy direction hard enough. either way anything that forces bum shitting to try and get his act together is great
sure
Also, why can't this happen to Labor while they're in opposition as well? They need a new fucking leader too.
I'll note I can't actually create it, I'm at work right now and can't really put in the resources worthy enough.
SamualDude
Member
They just reported about it over here in New Zealand. This will be the best way for him to go and deliver poetic justice
I really, really hope so. But because there's no great division that can be seen in Labor (at least, not publicly) I doubt we'll get anything.
Did Abbott last as long as Juliar? I have a feeling he did, but my memory is shithouse.
A
A More Normal Bird
Unconfirmed Member
It has been my sincerest hope since the last election that Abbott either a) lasted less than a term or b) lost his first election. In the case of a) we can say, as you pointed out, that he was PM for less time than Gillard (and Rudd, in total). In the case of b), we could say that both Gillard and Rudd were instated as PM twice as many times as him.
Gillard lasted from late 2010 before that election until mid 2013. Abbott only lasted two years and a week til now.
Just saw this via Twitter, best sledge of 2015, haha.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=6&v=jfG-iY8uFig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=6&v=jfG-iY8uFig
viciouskillersquirrel
Member
Just found out about the spill. It should have happened much sooner.
I've got to say that Turnbull is right about Shorten not being fit to be PM. Unfortunately, it should be the Labor party room saying this.
I've got to say that Turnbull is right about Shorten not being fit to be PM. Unfortunately, it should be the Labor party room saying this.
Candescence
Member
OH BOY IT'S HAPPENING
Hopefully Turnbull as PM will force Labor to spill as well and give Albo the leader's chair.
Hopefully Turnbull as PM will force Labor to spill as well and give Albo the leader's chair.
As much as I'd like to see someone like Albo in charge, I don't think it's as easy as that. I thought Kevin brought in new laws when he was last in charge to prevent someone from being rolled again as easily.
Aarglefarg
Member
Is Rudd challenging Abbott? 
Let's float ideas of suitable Labor leaders.
Albo and Plibersek seem forum favourites.
What about the former treasurer Wayne Swan? Or is he damaged goods due to Abbott's relentless campaign against him?
Bowen and Burke and dreyfus are all associated with broken refugee policies.
Maybe a long shot for future senior spots could be alannah mactiernan.
Albo and Plibersek seem forum favourites.
What about the former treasurer Wayne Swan? Or is he damaged goods due to Abbott's relentless campaign against him?
Bowen and Burke and dreyfus are all associated with broken refugee policies.
Maybe a long shot for future senior spots could be alannah mactiernan.
Italy, Greece and Japan would like a word.
roosters93
Member
lol this package on abcnews24 almost feels like an in memoriam
swan's been heavily associated with plibersek as of late
Haha it does too. Budgie smugglers at half mast on Bondi.
bobnowhere
Member
There were rumors of this very scenario last week, going before the Canning bi-election to try and sure up the vote and because parliament was off for 3 weeks after this week.
Not really, it only reflects poorly on our political elite. Why should we have to put up with poor leaders? I find it healthy that we are able to recognise poor leaders and through opinion polls are able to shape the choices inside of government. I'd rather have 5 years of change than 5 years of a single terrible leader who through long fixed terms we are unable to remove.
bobnowhere
Member
Antony Green is in the building.
*drink*
*drink*
I despise Tony Abbott and just about everything he represents, but don't want Malcolm Turnbull in charge either. On the flipside, Bill Shorten has been the most ineffective leader of the opposition that I can remember, and would probably be equally terrible as a PM.
Terrible leaders all round.
Aarglefarg
Member
The best thing to come of this is having more Antony Green on TV.
My comment before was a restatement of Nick O'Malley major point in his book 'the Rise and Fall of Australia' that came out last year. It's essential reading pretty much, really great perspective from an outsider.
Probably slightly over top with coup capital, but it's pretty poor considering how long we had Howard.
I just got to work and have to serve food for 5 hours. Can spill wait til then, please?
Probably slightly over top with coup capital, but it's pretty poor considering how long we had Howard.
I just got to work and have to serve food for 5 hours. Can spill wait til then, please?
Candescence
Member
Yep. Don't expect a change in policies, because Turnbull doesn't want the right-wing to revolt on him yet again.
AdventureRacing
Member
I remember quite a few years back saying that Turnbull was the only liberal leader I would actually vote for. I must say I have lost most of my faith in him since then particularly thanks to the NBN. Having said that I have to say he is far preferable to abbott or hockey and honestly if shorten remains I'm charge I would have to take real pause at voting labor next time.
Who am I kidding a green vote is probably coming anyway. Still want that piece of shit Abbott to finally get his comeuppance.
Who am I kidding a green vote is probably coming anyway. Still want that piece of shit Abbott to finally get his comeuppance.
Definitely where my vote is headed, as always.
Exactly, same shit with a new coat of paint, except this coat of paint is smooth enough to win the majority of the voting public over, a shame the opposition is such a lame duck. If Bill is to stay maybe he needs a few beers before each time he says anything in public.
bobnowhere
Member
Bloody Jeff losing his shit on ABC24. Comparing Abbott to John Key, creepy hair touching aside, Cameron and even Merkel.
Aarglefarg
Member
That interview was strange to me, remembering what he was saying earlier in the year.
To post what I did in the thread on the spill:
Jeff Kennett, today: "This act by Malcolm Turnbull is one of gross disloyalty, extreme egotism and he is, without a doubt, the Kevin Rudd of the Liberal Party."
But from February:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...207425913?sv=6f86d10a5600c2ee16b5ee6216a623c5
Leave Sydney. It's something that will not change for a long time.
Edit: leave Melbourne. I had to make the same choice ie leave home for work that meets financial needs. Reality is that melb and Syd are overcooked investors playgrounds.
Dude same issue here in melbourne
Kennet never has his shit together anyway. That interview was the equivalent of interviewing mark latham.
Thats the only way he can even get support in this vote. They certainly don't want him going rogue again.
Which is why I'd much rather Abbott stay.
bobnowhere
Member
Now that's an interesting idea, I wonder where Latham is right now. Assuming he's not in his garden shed wearing a teapot on his head.
Apparently the extra special Prime Minister's pension kicks in once you have served 2 years, 5 days short!
- Status
Similar threads
- Locked