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AusPoliGAF |OT| Boats? What Boats?
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Marky Mark
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Tony Overboard
Would you say its a debt and deficit ... disaster?
No-one knows, everyone will fall asleep when he announces his decision.
Rowan Dean is the worst fucking RWNJ in Australia. At least with the others they present things in a semi-factual way, and spin things that are really a negative into a positive. Rowan Dean just outright lies, and spews forward so much shit that nobody has a chance to actually call him on any of it.
And I used to enjoy him on the Gruen Transfer, it sucks to see that he's literally insane.
It's pretty clear that the Liberals give precisely zero fucks.
Maybe they can renegotiate certain policies such as the Shenmua coal mine.
Oh who am I kidding the National party is going to be offered a shit sandwich and they're just going to eat it.
Candescence
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Uh, remind me what he was threatening?
He said the Nationals had an agreement with Tony Abbott not Malcolm Turnbull, the subtext of which is that the Nationals would not support a Turnbull government.
It sounds like sabre rattling to strengthen their hand for the eventual shit sandwich they need to eat but who the fuck knows these days with the Coalition.
Candescence
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Oh, right. Barnaby Joyce made comments after Turnbull's win that basically amounted to "we're not weathervanes like the independents" but also not so subtlely threatening by stating that "the liberals wouldn't be in power without us".
Like the Nationals are ever going to form government with Labor. Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night Barnaby.
Elaugaufein
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Its been a real enough possibility (at the state level) before that the Liberals have demanded the Nationals rule it out and I seem to recall it being used as a threat a couple of times (again at state level). I don't think its ever actually happened though. At the federal level I'd have to say its practically impossible (the Nationals at the Federal level, basically hold only seats that are deeply socially conservative). I mean there are routes that are theoretically possible (National Party voters tend to like the ABC and other publicly funded services with rural coverage, and are pretty for socialist economic policy when it comes to farmers/graziers, and their feelings on coal mines / natural gas /etc tends to be pretty mixed) but it'd be a very tough sell (dolebludgers, gays, ivory tower academics,
What other choice do they have? The mainstream far right (bolt etc) will toe the line eventually.
Elaugaufein
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There are right wing microparties that could potentially absorb them like the Greens have with a chunk of Labor's left vote. Family First, One Nation, etc (possibly even the Nationals to some extent, but I think the fact they've given up contesting many Liberal seats means its unlikely). I think they'd have a harder time of it though, Labor had been dominated by Labor Unity for a looooong time before they started losing significant vote count from the Left flank.
I hope there's an article on Junkee or something that pulls them all together. Jones had a meltdown or something?
I'm not sure about you sitting at home, but we're fed up with this. -- Karl Stefanovic
(FB video link, it's not on the 'tubes yet.)
(FB video link, it's not on the 'tubes yet.)
Uhh, what?
Seems to be the sentiment across all the media today. Fair enough, but the country is better off for yesterday's events.
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
I'm happier with Abbott getting the boot. I'd prefer that than sticking with him cos he was the first choice by the party. He was horrific.
http://mumbrella.com.au/rich-dude-becomes-pm-how-the-media-covered-turnbulls-ascension-318575
A parade of newspaper covers from the day after. Kudos to the NT News.
Will Malcolm Turncoat stick as well as Juliar?
A parade of newspaper covers from the day after. Kudos to the NT News.
Will Malcolm Turncoat stick as well as Juliar?
If there were to be a successful one, it would be a new party with a new name and high profile people. There's enough high profile nutjobs that have lost the plot today that it's not out of the question. Maybe even get a defection from an extreme dry lib or too. Not saying it's likely, but it's possible. It depends how genuine the Jones/Hadley/Bolt etc outrage is.
Sounds like Ray Hadley is losing it too.
That's like saying an AC/DC concert is a bit loud.
Sticking with Abbott to preserve a façade of stability in a system it's clear a lot of pundits do not understand (the people don't elect the PM, as much as Tony tried to claim) wasn't going to work.
Turnbull may not work out either. But the definition of insanity and all that.
Hadley's been telling Scott Morrison to kick Turnbull's head in for weeks. He had a particularly deranged bit recently about Turnbull's collar being a symbol of Eastern Sydney elitism or something.
Can't imagine he's coping well.
So we have Malcolm Turncoat, but I think Malcolm Turnstile has a much better ring to it.
Does this mean you're coming back to Australia?!?
"Ray Hadley is actually tracking down and announcing every MP that voted for Turnbull."
It's possibly worse because they'll probably get another term out of this.
Yeah. We've basically got Saruman now. A honey tongued front man for the existing awful government.
I really don't get his popularity amongst social liberals. He's sold out all his supposed values in opposition to be in government and now PM.
Oh so we're talking about Judas and making lists in far right wing circles today.
Sounds grounded.
Dastardly Jerks
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The excitement stems from LizardFuck being eliminated and downtrodden.
Malcolm is dangerous, but at least we're back to middle right.
Malcolm is dangerous, but at least we're back to middle right.
"Hadley is now referring to Turnbull as THIS MAN"
Twitter is the fucking best today. RIP work.
"Latest on the PM's car: It's stopped at what appears to be a car wash, no longer sure it's the PM's car at all."
No. This Donald Trump guy is just too fun to turn your back on.
He just gave a stump speech to a massive crowd in Dallas. It was the most rambling, incoherent, content-free speech I've witnessed but gosh-darn if it wasn't entertaining.
I look forward to the Malcolm Turnbull leadership and hopefully a return to discussion of a Republic.
If Labor ditch Shorten, I don't know. At least now they (hopefully) know they need to do *something*.
Who. It won't be Anthony. I guess Tanya.
bobnowhere
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Woke up this morning with a sick stomach and a shocking headache, I think I overdosed on schadenfreude last night.
Yeah, I don't think it will be Albo (as much as I'd love for it to be). Other guy has copped too much over the travel thing. So yeah, Tanya or Wong.
I still want Albo there, though
Dastardly Jerks
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Shortens press conferences these past 24 hours have been nothing short of embarrassing.
Slight hyperbole, hasn't been that bad. Labor don't need to do much next week, just let Liberals tear themselves apart.
After old Bill's appearance on ABC News 24 just now, it is apparent that Turnbull will in the next election.
If they stick with him, they're fucked. If they scramble to find a replacement, they're fucked.
The Libs will deal with the 'leadership betrayal' much quicker than Labor and won't present any major shifts to policy before the next election. If Malcolm were really passionate about a Republic, he may include it as part of his policy platform before we go to the polls, and given where public sentiment is on the matter, it might not be a big gamble for him to take to the election.
I wouldn't be calling anything yet. Turnbull still has an uphill battle ahead of him. We don't even know when the election is.
He's got to wrangle the almost half of the party that didn't vote for him. He's got to wrangle the Nationals. He's got to wrangle the Senate. Then he's got to present that positively to the public by making policy changes that don't piss off the Party right.
I definitely think the Coalition now has an improved chance of winning re-election, but I can't say it's a sure thing.
He's got to wrangle the almost half of the party that didn't vote for him. He's got to wrangle the Nationals. He's got to wrangle the Senate. Then he's got to present that positively to the public by making policy changes that don't piss off the Party right.
I definitely think the Coalition now has an improved chance of winning re-election, but I can't say it's a sure thing.
I think a win for Shorten over Abbott was still going to be a close run thing. Turnbull can definitely win enough of the middle over to win, because it didn't have to be that much. The threat is going to come from the right for him, though I think the shock jocks are less powerful than they like to think they are, and ultimately he will win more middle than he'll lose right.
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