RukusProvider
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Automotive Discussion Thread | OT2 | Zero to pointless fighting faster than a GT86
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Liquidsnake
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This is just godly.
If it was a little more affordable at the time, i would have gotten one. I was hurt when it was discontinued, one of those I will never own.
If it was a little more affordable at the time, i would have gotten one. I was hurt when it was discontinued, one of those I will never own.
David Incorporated Esq.
Member
Glad to see in the comments that the guy was asked to leave. That kind of driving does not belong at a track day, let alone the novice session.
jongkookie
Member
This is just godly.
If it was a little more affordable at the time, i would have gotten one. I was hurt when it was discontinued, one of those I will never own.
They still exist man lol.
There's at least 10 brand new 2014 GSR's in the DFW area as of right now. And I don't think that number is gonna change much within the next year, hence why I'm considering one for next year.
I'm surprised the instructor didn't do something. Well, besides gesture.
RukusProvider
Banned
Instructor shouldn't be allowed to instruct in future either.
He should have shut this down. Part of your job as an instructor is to keep the driving safe for other participants. That's why there's a graduation system in place to let you run more aggressively in the faster group as your skill and comfort level develops.
His Jedi hand signals clearly weren't effective.
David Incorporated Esq.
Member
Forget more aggressive groups, they were racing. Racing isn't allowed at HPDE events, end of story.
Watching again and fuck, overtaking on the inside without having the line going into the corner and going sideways, how did the instructor not pull him in?
Cow Mengde
Banned
The 15 Edge is pretty sweet. Besides' the Edge is a huge compared to the Fusion. I don't see why the size wouldn't add more to the price. Hell, I freakin' base Transit work van is more expensive than the Fusion.
MiniBossBattle
Member
Will the 2016/17WRX have a hatchback?
I got to drool on the Ford GT at E3 today. My god. I literally couldn't fit my credit card in the front right panel gap.
It's like it's chiseled out of a single block of fiberglass. I am not a fan of the blue color, but every other thing about it is riveting.
And actually the new Miata was kind of awesome too.
It's like it's chiseled out of a single block of fiberglass. I am not a fan of the blue color, but every other thing about it is riveting.
And actually the new Miata was kind of awesome too.
djSyndrome
Member
2016 - no. Sedan only, minor changes (Starlink radios, 18" wheels on Premium/Limited models, two new colors).
2017 - who knows. Subaru has said there would be no hatch as they only had money to develop one body style, so I wouldn't hold my breath.
If you live elsewhere in the world you may have access to the Levorg soon. If you're in North America, you're SOL.
NA isn't getting the Levorg?! Wow...
Well... I picked up a new daily...
Congrats! Seems like the perfect car for Canada. You gonna rally it in the winter?
I literally just picked up my new WRX today, which l traded in a 2013 GT86 for.
The WRX:
Sweet pickup. Whereas the 86 is a more pure sports car experience, the WRX is a much better all around car. I really like that color too.
lol, that was awesome. I'd daily a Huracan if I had one, but then again I don't have a terrible work commute.
It's not the cars fault there is a dumbass behind the wheel. He probably would have killed somebody if the electronics weren't there.
This is just godly.
If it was a little more affordable at the time, i would have gotten one. I was hurt when it was discontinued, one of those I will never own.
Have something against buying used? There will be a bunch of them available for sale whenever you decide to get one.
Congrats! Not sure about the stripe, but gold wheels on black always look cool.
m_shortpants
Member
The fuel pump kept chirping, it sounded damn annoying like a cricket inside the car and from outside it made the car sound like a piece of garbage. They tried replacing it twice, and then flew in a bunch of engineers from Japan to take a look at it and run some tests. They replaced it that last time (making it three total and eligible for lemon law), so he just decided to get a WRX instead lol. Props to Subaru though for being so good and accommodating. Their customer service was incredible.
I really like the looks of the Edge inside and out I can't just justice any 5 seat SUVs in that price range when the Grand Cherokee seems like by far the choice to make.
whatsinaname
Member
Ah, under Lemon Law. The 100% tiv makes sense. A lot of people have had the chirping issue but surprisingly, I've never faced it.
Even if not under Lemon Law, Subaru's guaranteed trade-in value is fairly decent. It is independent of a dealership, so you can still negotiate the price on your new car. And it has stayed about 10% higher than what Carmax or others offer.
David Incorporated Esq.
Member
I've heard of this happening to a lot of those cars and I can't figure out why they haven't been able to find the issue. It shouldn't be that difficult to fix. It's probably not bearings because they're not failing, just making noise, so that leaves some sort of flaw in the impeller, internal plumbing issue or external line flow issue causing cavitation.
It's not fucking hard. I wonder if universal units can be used instead and if they have the same chirping.
Edit: At an engineering level it's not hard, I mean. A dealer will never be able to fix it they'll just replace it with another faulty pump.
Edit the second: Ohhhh direct injection 3,000psi. Not going to be grabbing an off the shelf universal for something like that.
whatsinaname
Member
It isn't that easy. I was speaking to an engineer at a large automotive supplier last year. They were having similar noise issues with fuel pumps in the field on certain Toyota vehicles they were supplying to. The problem was narrowed down to a resonance noise for certain fuel mixtures and certain operating conditions. The issue was that when the pumps were removed and sent back to the engineering team, they didn't display the problem on the test bed and had to be marked as no trouble found.
The BRZ/FRS issue is more widespread as a percentage of cars out there, but considering the small number of vehicles out there, the problem would have been equally difficult to track down.
Nice! I'm of the opinion that almost any Miata is a good Miata and that black and gold is unique.
Good on Subaru then. Sounds like your brother was treated well and that's great to hear.
It also highlights yet another reason why I don't fully trust direct injection yet. Great power gains but a lot of companies are having niggling issues with it. Carbon build up, high pressure fuel pump failures, chirping fuel pumps, injector failures, etc.
The engineers will eventually get it all figured out but it's going to take a few years and a few revisions before that happens.
GHG
Gold Member
So... The new RS3 is a bit of a beast:
http://youtu.be/5ry4mtvgUws
Is it wrong that I kind of want one?
http://youtu.be/5ry4mtvgUws
Is it wrong that I kind of want one?
Mattlikewhoa
Member
Holy crap! What the hell was he thinking!?! And why didn't the instructor shut that down after the third lap?!?!
This is just godly.
If it was a little more affordable at the time, i would have gotten one. I was hurt when it was discontinued, one of those I will never own.
On of the reasons why I was on the hunt for one!
The market for them is AWESOME in the US. In Canada it kinda sucks. There were a few 2014's on various lots in my city, but there was bunch of 2015's as well.
There's nothing for the 2016 year, and I haven't heard about them bringing it back anytime soon. The pricing for used hatches is kinda crazy from what I've seen.
I guess people are all about that hatch life!
Congrats on the purchase my man!
I still can't believe that they are not going to release the Levorg in North America...
Congrats! Seems like the perfect car for Canada. You gonna rally it in the winter?
Thanks my man!
I look forward to this winter as the last one was rather rough. I'll do my best to thrash it around in the snow!
Ah I've read about that problem. Flying the engineers over is nothing new for larger Japanese companies, but I'm glad that they were working with him while trying to solve the issue.
He's going to really enjoy that new car for sure!
Thanks for the responses everyone Looks like I'll go for a WRX if it's roughly the same price as a BRZ. But what if the BRZ is about $5K cheaper than a WRX? Would it be fine to buy used or certified in general? This is going to be my first car purchase (though my parents will be paying for it and I'll be paying them back over time).
Such as these listings from AutoTrader:
Certified 2013 Subaru BRZ Premium (white, $18,296)
Used 2013 Subaru BRZ Premium (red, $19,996)
What should I look out for in online listings? I know to look at the CarFax, that's really it.
And whatsinaname, I don't think I'll have problem with storing car wheels. I'll be back living with my parents in a house and probably have to clean up the garage because my dad has a lot of stuff in there.
Looks like I'll go for a WRX if it's roughly the same price as a BRZ. But what if the BRZ is about $5K cheaper than a WRX? Would it be fine to buy used or certified in general? This is going to be my first car purchase (though my parents will be paying for it and I'll be paying them back over time).Such as these listings from AutoTrader:
Certified 2013 Subaru BRZ Premium (white, $18,296)
Used 2013 Subaru BRZ Premium (red, $19,996)
What should I look out for in online listings? I know to look at the CarFax, that's really it.
And whatsinaname, I don't think I'll have problem with storing car wheels. I'll be back living with my parents in a house and probably have to clean up the garage because my dad has a lot of stuff in there.
whatsinaname
Member
Who's getting a Jeep Cherokee Hellcat?
http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/report-707-horsepower-2017-jeep-grand-cherokee-hellcat-1712338623
0-60 in 3s....
Certified is definitely the way to go. Nothing much has changed on the cars since MY 2013. Only reason I bought new was because the difference then was only $1k or so.
http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/report-707-horsepower-2017-jeep-grand-cherokee-hellcat-1712338623
0-60 in 3s....
Thanks for the responses everyone
Such as these listings from AutoTrader:
What should I look out for in online listings? I know to look at the CarFax, that's really it.
And whatsinaname, I don't think I'll have problem with storing car wheels. I'll be back living with my parents in a house and probably have to clean up the garage because my dad has a lot of stuff in there.
Certified is definitely the way to go. Nothing much has changed on the cars since MY 2013. Only reason I bought new was because the difference then was only $1k or so.
Ah I see. Not too long after posting, my friend was saying to buy new lol "New has less problems. You don't know how much the owner beat on the car before you, especially if it was a lease. To me, certified is bullshit. If you've ever seen the techs do maintenance on cars, it's subpar. They follow a handbook that the manufacturer gives them. But then again it really depends."
Just his opinion obviously.
whatsinaname
Member
Something like a BRZ or STI, I would definitely be careful about buying used.
Certified is definitely not bullshit. Certification comes from the manufacturer and they can't afford to be dodgy on it.
djSyndrome
Member
I've had good luck with a certified Impreza in the past. The one thing that broke (headlight cluster) was replaced quickly and at no charge.
For used performance cars in general: I'd always be wary of inheriting someone else's science project. You have no idea how the car was driven or what mods were used and then removed before the trade in. I'd buy new; BRZs often go for well under sticker and the interest rate from Subaru is essentially zero.
Also, perhaps consider the FR-S. I drove both back-to-back and they are nearly identical, but the FR-S' rear is a bit more lively, the stereo is leagues better, Toyota is offering 0.9% and it comes in motherfucking orange. Shame they can't seem to get the interior nighttime lighting right, though :\
For used performance cars in general: I'd always be wary of inheriting someone else's science project. You have no idea how the car was driven or what mods were used and then removed before the trade in. I'd buy new; BRZs often go for well under sticker and the interest rate from Subaru is essentially zero.
Also, perhaps consider the FR-S. I drove both back-to-back and they are nearly identical, but the FR-S' rear is a bit more lively, the stereo is leagues better, Toyota is offering 0.9% and it comes in motherfucking orange. Shame they can't seem to get the interior nighttime lighting right, though :\
what could go wrong? smh
Woody Invincible
Banned
Salesman text me to let me know that the jeep should be in today or Monday. Pretty excited!
David Incorporated Esq.
Member
There's the problem right there. These direct injection pumps look to be pretty finicky, and if you don't look at them in context you're never going to find the issue. If a very small percentage start to fail it might just be the units themselves but when you have constant issues across an entire line you need to look at it as part of a system.
I work with a lot of automotive engineers and many of them aren't near as clever as they think they are. They're usually also terrible at developing multiple solutions to problems; they constantly pick the first solution they think up and doggedly stick with it even if it doesn't produce good results. Eventually someone else enters the problem, goes "Why not try this instead?" and voila, instant success.
Well, not instant success. Usually the engineer fights the proposed solution, saying it's no good and who are you to think you know better than me and blah blah blah blah blah until a manager tells them to shove it and then the fix goes through.
God I am so tired of working with engineers.
GHG
Gold Member
Oh my fucking god.
I'd get one. Perfect replacement for my x6 if we stick with it as the main SUV.
Neat video about supercharged NSXs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jODWNX59CY
MiniBossBattle
Member
Thanks. I keep waxing and waning on getting a new car. I would love to have a hatchback(kids and activities but also able to zip around in the city) but the sedan WRX looks normal enough.
I also want that new Miata....
David Incorporated Esq.
Member
The weather was really neat this morning so I took a picture. It's pretty clear that I have what is probably the worst modern camera phone in America (Droid Mini).
Silver Arrows
Banned
Fucking nice! 930 Turbo?
David Incorporated Esq.
Member
Thanks! And nah, just an SC with a whale tail. I think I'm going to replace it with a duck tail sometime soon, I've just got that urge.
Silver Arrows
Banned
Sure fooled me lol.
djSyndrome
Member
Stupid. Especially if you're a company that rented out the track for yourselves. You're not crashing into anyone...
Obligatory Auto Discussion Thread Porsche pic of the day! lol
Isn't it ironic? Engineers get trained on multiple problem solving methodologies, but a lot of times default to jumping to conclusions or whatever solution comes into their head first.
Then it's no longer a race track.
Are those winter tires? I'd be kind of concerned that it came from a part of Japan that gets snow and therefore may be rusty.
m_shortpants
Member
I read it might be the ethanol in the gas that's sold here (which isn't in Japan). Either way, their customer service was truly amazing.
RukusProvider
Banned
That's a very nice pic. How long have you had it now?
David Incorporated Esq.
Member
May '13. 115k miles when I got it, I've put about 6k on now.
Love it. An SC or Carrera 3.2 would look mighty nice in my garage once I get it built. For now, I'll just drool over yours.
jongkookie
Member
Sat in a 600whp Evo X last night.
That shit was super intoxicating and everything I have known was completely absorbed by the passenger seat.
The way the acceleration pushed you to the back of the seat was ridiculous, there's like a 2 second gap from 0 RPM to wherever the turbo kicks and during that 2secs gap it feels like a regular car but the moment the turbo kicks in, it literally just pushes you towards the back of the seat, similar to whiplash.
The one thing I'm sad about that is the fact that I've gotta get the TC-SST if I wanna do something crazy like that. The 5-speed supposedly can take the abuse/power but you could apparently take the TC-SST to stratospheric levels in terms of power mods and all so that's kind of a bummer. Like do I want the 5-speed coz manuals FTW, or the TC-SST for super crazy power? lol.
That shit was super intoxicating and everything I have known was completely absorbed by the passenger seat.
The way the acceleration pushed you to the back of the seat was ridiculous, there's like a 2 second gap from 0 RPM to wherever the turbo kicks and during that 2secs gap it feels like a regular car but the moment the turbo kicks in, it literally just pushes you towards the back of the seat, similar to whiplash.
The one thing I'm sad about that is the fact that I've gotta get the TC-SST if I wanna do something crazy like that. The 5-speed supposedly can take the abuse/power but you could apparently take the TC-SST to stratospheric levels in terms of power mods and all so that's kind of a bummer. Like do I want the 5-speed coz manuals FTW, or the TC-SST for super crazy power? lol.
I could be way off on this but I was of the understanding that the sst is the one that needs to be overhauled if you're looking for major power gains