AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
I picked up the Huracan with my brother on Wednesday. It's criminally awesome and downright mental how it goes and sounds.
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Automotive Discussion Thread | OT2 | Zero to pointless fighting faster than a GT86
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jongkookie
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Nah, IIRC he said all you need is a upgraded clutch pack or something like that to handle the power. And it's something you're gonna have to upgrade anyway as the stock TC-SST can only handle up to 350hp.
PICS!
replying a little late to some of these posts but whatever
I flat out stated this in my original reply lol
I don't know about "unicorn status", definitely not true where I live, in the UK/europe, or Japan, but everything else you listed is not why it was killed off. The evo is completely out of place in mitsubishi's line up of cars and they got rid of it because they wanted to. Low sales, as you claimed, are also a fantastic reason for discontinuation. It's not exactly a car that mitsu makes profit to begin with.
As far as marketing and general knowledge of its existence goes, you're very wrong IMO. The evolution line has quite the history. No one goes car shopping and just "ends up" in an evo. People who buy the car know about it. Car enthusiasts know about it. Cops know about it. It has endless coverage in automotive media. I could go on forever.
Cobb is the last place I would look for something specific to the evo. However, they gave you the correct response in this case, although they would have to be pretty ignorant in order to mess this one up.
Search harder. Regardless, it's not something to be worried about concerning the evo.
Pretty sure they're not manufacturing parts for the past generations anymore... aftermarket has you covered
Where are you reading/hearing these rumors btw?
IMO that's no reason to be worried, the car doesn't just eat up parts
+1
Again, not sure about this unicorn car thing. Shouldn't be what's causing major appeal towards the car. Have you driven one? The X handles like no other, I doubt you'll be missing anything.
I used to live in Canada, this was definitely true. I would see STI's nearly every day, usually the then-new hatchbacks too. Plus the countless wrx's and regular imprezas. Older sti's were fairly common as well, not to mention the imported JDM subies.
Nice! I always really liked the STI emblem on the grill. Plasma blue silica (I think that was the name) paint right? Could be black or grey though lol, hard to tell. I believe you mentioned something about getting used to the colour
If this was your first time in an evo, this is what bone stock feels like lol
Also if this was a DCT evo, and the owner gave you the info in your next post, he's full of shit and pulled 600whp out of his ass (or the Cobb accessport dyno LOL). There are only a handful of builds like this and I seriously doubt the owners are just handing out rides.
The SST is not what you want if you're looking for huge power. In terms of power if you plan to do anything more than some basic bolt ons and a tune of course, the GSR is the better option.
Correct. The SST alone needs a lot of expensive parts and labor to hold serious power, and even then it won't be able to do so reliably. It's also pretty much limited to 480 lb-ft because after that the trans casing starts to flex.
Again, none of this is true. Don't spread misinformation with such confidence.
If you're serious about getting an X, start reading up about it on forums and whatnot. Tons of good info to be found with a little digging.
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Damn this post is way longer than I thought it would be.
One last thing, regarding the FWD discussion: I'm surprised no one mentioned it has less parasitic drivetrain loss when compared to an AWD counterpart. It's why cars like the ms3 smoke AWD cars making similar power at the crank on straight line highway pulls
I flat out stated this in my original reply lol
I don't know about "unicorn status", definitely not true where I live, in the UK/europe, or Japan, but everything else you listed is not why it was killed off. The evo is completely out of place in mitsubishi's line up of cars and they got rid of it because they wanted to. Low sales, as you claimed, are also a fantastic reason for discontinuation. It's not exactly a car that mitsu makes profit to begin with.
As far as marketing and general knowledge of its existence goes, you're very wrong IMO. The evolution line has quite the history. No one goes car shopping and just "ends up" in an evo. People who buy the car know about it. Car enthusiasts know about it. Cops know about it. It has endless coverage in automotive media. I could go on forever.
Cobb is the last place I would look for something specific to the evo. However, they gave you the correct response in this case, although they would have to be pretty ignorant in order to mess this one up.
Search harder. Regardless, it's not something to be worried about concerning the evo.
Pretty sure they're not manufacturing parts for the past generations anymore... aftermarket has you covered
Where are you reading/hearing these rumors btw?
IMO that's no reason to be worried, the car doesn't just eat up parts
+1
Again, not sure about this unicorn car thing. Shouldn't be what's causing major appeal towards the car. Have you driven one? The X handles like no other, I doubt you'll be missing anything.
I used to live in Canada, this was definitely true. I would see STI's nearly every day, usually the then-new hatchbacks too. Plus the countless wrx's and regular imprezas. Older sti's were fairly common as well, not to mention the imported JDM subies.
Nice! I always really liked the STI emblem on the grill. Plasma blue silica (I think that was the name) paint right? Could be black or grey though lol, hard to tell. I believe you mentioned something about getting used to the colour
If this was your first time in an evo, this is what bone stock feels like lol
Also if this was a DCT evo, and the owner gave you the info in your next post, he's full of shit and pulled 600whp out of his ass (or the Cobb accessport dyno LOL). There are only a handful of builds like this and I seriously doubt the owners are just handing out rides.
The SST is not what you want if you're looking for huge power. In terms of power if you plan to do anything more than some basic bolt ons and a tune of course, the GSR is the better option.
Correct. The SST alone needs a lot of expensive parts and labor to hold serious power, and even then it won't be able to do so reliably. It's also pretty much limited to 480 lb-ft because after that the trans casing starts to flex.
Again, none of this is true. Don't spread misinformation with such confidence.
If you're serious about getting an X, start reading up about it on forums and whatnot. Tons of good info to be found with a little digging.
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Damn this post is way longer than I thought it would be.
One last thing, regarding the FWD discussion: I'm surprised no one mentioned it has less parasitic drivetrain loss when compared to an AWD counterpart. It's why cars like the ms3 smoke AWD cars making similar power at the crank on straight line highway pulls
m_shortpants
Member
Not just that, but FWD cars can be great for rallying, as you can use your left foot for braking, get a similar result as a handbrake, yet continue spinning the front wheels. Hence why the Mini and other small hatches were so good back in the day.
Check this magic out
https://youtu.be/asKuYgAcyIk
samurai1226
Member
Wow, Audi finally reached the point where their cars went from "cool, modern & aggresive" to just ugly
Wow, Audi finally reached the point where their cars went from "cool, modern & aggresive" to just ugly
Looks like a Passat
mmazurkiewicz
Member
Thats apparently a photoshop.
But truthfully, the actual car will look just like that.
But truthfully, the actual car will look just like that.
Sweet. Did you drive it or just chill in the passenger seat? How is he breaking it in, easy or hard?
If you can get some alone time with the car for some spirited runs, I'd like to hear your thoughts on it, especially if you have experience with the 458 and Gallardo.
My brother is thinking about ordering a 488, but there is a 1.5 year wait on those.
I'm back with some more questions. A close friend of mine reminded me that his friend, who he has known for a couple of years, is selling his 2011 Evo X GSR with about 60K-ish miles on it for $23K, but I was told I can probably get it down a bit because there was a used 2012 Evo X GSR with 14K miles listed for $28.7K on AutoTrader. He wants to sell the Evo X to buy a WRX. I was also told he should still have it when I move back to NYC this August.
The only mods done to the car are upgraded exhaust and headlights (quad projectors?) and a protective matte black paint job. I've been told he babies the shit out of the car and it seems consistent with one of his IG posts saying "...Nice to see I get 16 mpg even though I drive like a grandpa."
Here are some pictures of the car from his IG but they're from a few months back. I can ask for newer pictures.
https://instagram.com/p/v3g_r4EswC/?taken-by=narutica
https://instagram.com/p/yVEomDksy3/?taken-by=narutica
https://instagram.com/p/ymm1tLEs2U/?taken-by=narutica
https://instagram.com/p/1jRo3oks4S/?taken-by=narutica
So my questions are:
1) What is a list of things I should look for and ask when buying a used performance car?
2) Assuming I go for it, what is the usually and safest way to pay the person?
3) How does the ownership of the car get transferred to me without any "illegal" (?) stuff happening?
4) Should I buy it? I want an Evo X and it sounds like a safe purchase to me and it's relatively affordable. Maybe you guys can find potential problems that I can't see.
EDIT: Is there anything I should know in general since this is potentially my first car purchase? My friend informed me to find a good mechanic I can trust to check the car even if it's expensive (I don't know any) or find a good shop that specializes in Mitsubishi cars.
The only mods done to the car are upgraded exhaust and headlights (quad projectors?) and a protective matte black paint job. I've been told he babies the shit out of the car and it seems consistent with one of his IG posts saying "...Nice to see I get 16 mpg even though I drive like a grandpa."
Here are some pictures of the car from his IG but they're from a few months back. I can ask for newer pictures.
https://instagram.com/p/v3g_r4EswC/?taken-by=narutica
https://instagram.com/p/yVEomDksy3/?taken-by=narutica
https://instagram.com/p/ymm1tLEs2U/?taken-by=narutica
https://instagram.com/p/1jRo3oks4S/?taken-by=narutica
So my questions are:
1) What is a list of things I should look for and ask when buying a used performance car?
2) Assuming I go for it, what is the usually and safest way to pay the person?
3) How does the ownership of the car get transferred to me without any "illegal" (?) stuff happening?
4) Should I buy it? I want an Evo X and it sounds like a safe purchase to me and it's relatively affordable. Maybe you guys can find potential problems that I can't see.
EDIT: Is there anything I should know in general since this is potentially my first car purchase? My friend informed me to find a good mechanic I can trust to check the car even if it's expensive (I don't know any) or find a good shop that specializes in Mitsubishi cars.
ZeroTheShadow
Member
LOL you're a funny guy. Man I was gonna chew for this but like why bother. You've got driving in the snow all figured out. Control the slide huh? I've heard some half-baked driving theories but this one WOW.
jongkookie
Member
I actually wouldn't be surprised if there was wrong information being shared that night. It was just a bunch of dudebros talking shit about each other cars and whatnot.
I only went since two friends were interested in settling a bet the right way at a drag strip. The Evo X I went with is a friend of one of the two and I've never really met him until that night so who knows what else wrong thing he told me.
The rumors I heard came from the same source, my friend who's buddies with that Evo X guy. But again, I don't know if he's full of shit or not and honestly I'm a year out from buying one so I kinda don't care yet lol.
Anyway, I'm sure most of y'all are tired of hearing me talk about something I'll buy next year so consider it done lol. I'm actually tired of reading up on it as well as I feel all this research is just gonna get thrown out the window once I sit in the new Miata in a few weeks so yeah lol.
rokkerkory
Member
Took pics from meeting up with some friends
David Incorporated Esq.
Member
Huh? I guess I wasn't clear. I said you can point the direction of force with a FWD whereas you can't with RWD, and then gave an example where that would be helpful. Is there a point you want to make?
lem0n
Member
Welp, got my first taste of real horsepower and speed today. A friend of mine let me drive his CLS55 AMG by myself, and he told me to floor it away because he's never heard it outside of the car. I about shit myself. What an amazing car! Keep in mind I daily an NA Miata, and my friends all drive similar types of cars. Nothing fast in a straight line, at all. In fact, I think the fastest car I've ever driven up until now was a WRX. I know, I know. Pathetic. Anyways, I'm now in love with AMG Mercs. I need to own one.
Took pics from meeting up with some friends
Cars look hawt. Choice of scenery looks like a movie version of a drug buy. lol
MEET US AT TEH WAREHOUSE DISTRICT IN THE BACK! I keed.....
That'll go down significantly once allocations start happening. I'd say it's about 8 months after they start shipping them before you can walk into a dealer and easily pick one up. In the fall/winter Huracans were jacked up way past MSRP due to allocations, but now we're less than a year into Huracan allocations and there's like 3 sitting at my dealer down the street that you could pick up today (if you had the cash).
rokkerkory
Member
Cars look hawt. Choice of scenery looks like a movie version of a drug buy. lol
I keed.....
That'll go down significantly once allocations start happening. I'd say it's about 8 months after they start shipping them before you can walk into a dealer and easily pick one up. In the fall/winter Huracans were jacked up way past MSRP due to allocations, but now we're less than a year into Huracan allocations and there's like 3 sitting at my dealer down the street that you could pick up today (if you had the cash).
Haha parking lot was pretty sketch! Glad we were only ones there however.
Took pics from meeting up with some friends
Was this near Van Nuys? Because I'm pretty sure I was in traffic with the blue M3 a couple of hours ago.
Silver Arrows
Banned
What's the consensus on a Volvo 850 for a first car?
whatsinaname
Member
Is it an Automatic Limited Trim? Really doubt it. Subaru Dealer margins are not that high and their Inventory Period is very low, so dealers don't negotiate much. $31k would be my guess.
Most dealers would be willing to take a $1k-$2k initial hold from your CC but not more. They should be willing to then wait for a couple of days days while you arrange the rest of the down payment. (Which will most probably have to be a cash or a cashier's cheque.)
Yup automatic limited trim. I am only suggesting 29K because Im also trying to account for tax and other fees, which is gonna bring me back to almost 32k anyways.
Also because the 2016 models are pretty much out already, and most people are going to try and get that.
TheAbsolution
Member
I guess thats a good thing though. I really dont want to pay 30k for a car. Even if its my dream car in the affordable range.
whatsinaname
Member
TTL is on top of base price and the dealers can't really negotiate on that. Sure, they can tack on some crazy stuff that you will have to be careful about.
The MY16 for the WRX doesn't have many changes. I would be surprised if that dealership still has the car in stock come Monday. There are usually waiting lists on most Subaru's.
TheAbsolution
Member
Yup, Subaru's are pretty popular.
The only time I see huge incentives in the thousands of dollars are on very pocular vehicles like pickup trucks.
Nah itll be there monday. The internet sales person is pretty much emailing me every other day asking if im ready to purchase lol, after my first inquiry.
I heard the 2016 has a new nav system, and different wheels, and i think one other minor change.
But like i said, i really shouldnt be spending that much on acar for someone that doesnt drive much. So its a good thing if they dont lower it for me. But it just makes me wonder you know.
Im pretty much gonna stalk that page until its gone.
Magic indeed! Rally racing has to be the most interesting type of race to actually watch. Especially if it's edited well, like this clip is. Epic stuff.
I got to test drive an AMG Merc at a "tech drive" they were putting on at the Las Vegas Hilton back in the day. Absolutely awesome in a straight line. The combination of luxury, power and looks is thrilling and I'll count myself as very blessed if I ever have the means to own one.
It was perfect weather tonight. Hit up some local twisties with a few buddies. I'm still amazed at the capabilities of this car.
Nice! Your car wins but the guy in the (Is that an Atom? or something else?) gets a close second.
rokkerkory
Member
Nope this is in Nor Cal!
rokkerkory
Member
It was perfect weather tonight. Hit up some local twisties with a few buddies. I'm still amazed at the capabilities of this car.
That's a pretty mean line up there! Love it, except for the P car a little too much to the right.
Sorry I am anal like that.
Get a used WRX if you want to not pay a lot but get the same experience? Heck upgrade to an STI if you go back far enough.
No can do
I want automatic (har har)
And only 2015 models have that
djSyndrome
Member
Does anyone here have any experience with the new Clio (Estate)? I'm looking for a new(ish) car that's relatively cheap and lightweight while having a decent boot and I'm really fond of the styling of this. Reviews are generally positive as well, but for some reason there are already a lot for sale second hand where I live. So I'm wondering if there are problems with the cars that I don't know about.
rokkerkory
Member
What does everyone listen to when they drive? besides the engine and exhaust of course!
Some of my current favs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAtP_xvIgVs&list=PLFD0B98EB906A4539&index=11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcrHCo4PTJs&index=18&list=PLFD0B98EB906A4539
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS2-QOVnMiE&index=16&list=PLFD0B98EB906A4539
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifcNVUqc53k&index=2&list=WL
Some of my current favs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAtP_xvIgVs&list=PLFD0B98EB906A4539&index=11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcrHCo4PTJs&index=18&list=PLFD0B98EB906A4539
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS2-QOVnMiE&index=16&list=PLFD0B98EB906A4539
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifcNVUqc53k&index=2&list=WL
Took pics from meeting up with some friends
It was perfect weather tonight. Hit up some local twisties with a few buddies. I'm still amazed at the capabilities of this car.
You two and your friends have some nice cars! If me and my friends lined our cars up there would be a dirty Trans Am, a Honda Accord, and a Chevy truck lol.
jongkookie
Member
Nothing.
My driver's side speakers went kaput last week and it's seriously distracting to listen from only one channel so I just enjoy my exhaust.
I'm definitely thinking about swapping them out next month though, I'm probably gonna go cheap and have some JVC's or Kicker's in there. I'd love to install those Infinity Reference speakers but it's too expensive and I honestly don't really care about audio quality in a car even though I'm an audiophile lol.
Maybe the plan of selling my Miata is influencing this choice lol.
That said, I listen to about everything though. If my windows/top are down, I usually tune in to sports radio or play some pop tunes and maybe some alt rock. Windows up, everything's fair game, K-Pop, jazz, Eurobeat, jazz-hop, classic rock, power ballads... the list goes on and on lol.
TheAbsolution
Member
I listen to just about everything. Rock, pop, hip hop, most stuff except for metal and country.
I have no playlists, I just play my music library on shuffle.
I have no playlists, I just play my music library on shuffle.
Mattlikewhoa
Member
Very cool! Yeah, I love our 15 year import rule. We get to see a ton of interesting cars, that were never sold in our market.
The amount of STI's I've seen have gone down over the years. There's more WRX's running around though.
Thanks my man! The colour is actually Dark Metallic Grey. I wasn't sold on the colour, but I'm coming around. I just need to decide on rims (and colours) now...
I looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooove my EX35. Dat interior.
I'm not familiar with when they added the 7 speed to the Sedans, but definitely get one of those. It's an amazing transmission.
It's so quiet and comfortable on long trips. Has handled snow like a boss. Been 100% pain free reliability-wise. The Bose system is incredible. The infotainment stack is insanely easy to use. I literally love everything about my car as a daily driver with some pep.
*edit*
Also, I'm an ex-Subaru guy. I really do feel like it's a grown up's WRX in a lot of ways.
rokkerkory
Member
Stylistically, the FX35 is my favorite SUV. So yea I agree. Also how does it remind you of a grown up WRX? because WRX is actually my dream affordable car, so Im interested in why you say that.
I also looked at the G25. It barely cheaper in the used market. And a huge drop in horsepower. Had it been slightly smaller, because i want a smaller car I would overlook that, but it uses the exact same frame.
I drove my friends G35 back then, and it doesnt feel like a sports car because it felt so smooth to me. Really depends on what Im looking for I guess.
Then Hurricane Sandy destroyed his car, and he upgraded to the G37x. At that time I warned him do not get that car cause I will most likely get it myself. And now here we are.
Its definitely a top contender for what I will get for sure. Cause its a really good value for what they offer. And I think you guys just may have talked me into it.
I'm in the EX35, which is essentially a hatchback G35.
It's not a large car, has a lot of the benefits of a WRX (hatchback). It's a lot more livable, in terms of road noise and comfort. The leather everywhere and interior design makes you feel like you're in a car that is double the cost. Absolutely slays the competition in that department, IMO.
It's still great in the corners, has nice and heavy steering feel. It accelerates well, but since it's a NA engine, it's a lot more usable and linear. I mean, the WRX is often called the "Poor man's 3 series", and the G37 could easily be called the "Budget-minded man's 3 series".
Just go give one a test drive, see what you think.
It's not a large car, has a lot of the benefits of a WRX (hatchback). It's a lot more livable, in terms of road noise and comfort. The leather everywhere and interior design makes you feel like you're in a car that is double the cost. Absolutely slays the competition in that department, IMO.
It's still great in the corners, has nice and heavy steering feel. It accelerates well, but since it's a NA engine, it's a lot more usable and linear. I mean, the WRX is often called the "Poor man's 3 series", and the G37 could easily be called the "Budget-minded man's 3 series".
Just go give one a test drive, see what you think.
Oh, I'll test drive for sure.
Actually I just submitted an offer online just to see what their response will be. the listed price is just under 23K, but I put in for 21K.
If they say yes, I will schedule a test drive with them.
nabe_shogun
Member
Thats very clean. That site also has a nice laurel for sale I wouldn't mind having.
I'm sure its probably a bad idea, but I'll probably end up buying one of these japanese imports at some point.
Eurobeat when in try hard mode. Used to put it on every other day when I had my 86. Other than that I just listen to the hits radio station and put on edm when I get tired of that.
What's everyone's thoughts on wheel lock lugs? Just got some OZ Leggera HLTs and would prefer not to be a victim of wheel theft. Ok, maybe I'm being a little paranoid as my car is safe at work and home, but there are those random places I could be out and about where it could happen.
I know that they are far from fool proof, but it's peace of mind, isn't much hassle for me to have them on, and should deter at least some casual thieves. Yay or nay?
I know that they are far from fool proof, but it's peace of mind, isn't much hassle for me to have them on, and should deter at least some casual thieves. Yay or nay?