New Super Sedan:
510HP TTV6.
That looks so freaking good. I think this just topped my list for best looking mid size sedan. Got the Jaguar look going.
Edit: Oh man those wheels.
Ok Im buying one.
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That looks so freaking good. I think this just topped my list for best looking mid size sedan. Got the Jaguar look going.
Edit: Oh man those wheels.
Ok Im buying one.
mmazurkiewicz
Member
its looks like a hybrid of the new C Class and a TVR.
Looks like Jag-U-R has a winner with the new XE S against the 335i M-Sport atleast...
Lieberman from MT loved it compared to the Bimmer in the Head 2 Head
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3YFTFLmcfk
I may go gently used base WRX with a manual for my next vehicle. I have a Boston Terrier puppy now and have a propensity for going to the mountains so I probably should have a Subaru. Or maybe a Forester... or CX5 AWD or CX3 or something with AWD.
Or I could just get winter wheels and tires for my e46 and get a ski rack... choices!
Lieberman from MT loved it compared to the Bimmer in the Head 2 Head
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3YFTFLmcfk
I may go gently used base WRX with a manual for my next vehicle. I have a Boston Terrier puppy now and have a propensity for going to the mountains so I probably should have a Subaru. Or maybe a Forester... or CX5 AWD or CX3 or something with AWD.
Or I could just get winter wheels and tires for my e46 and get a ski rack... choices!
MiniBossBattle
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mmazurkiewicz
Member
Better get it a sweater, they fucking hate the cold.
Ok thanksi think they're the new BBS CI-R. $3k/wheel.
That looks really, really good.
Cosworth makes a BRZ supercharger.
I like seeing superchargers on cars you would normally expect to go turbo. That Cosworth supercharger looks great under the hood.
Man you all making me want one of these cars.
You and me both. Definitely my next car.
Check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxPptepNZjk
Cosworth makes a BRZ supercharger.
While it looks clean and all. The performance is not worth the money you'll be spending to get that. You're better off getting a Jackson Racing or Vortech. I'm eyeing the Vortech V2 tuner kit myself. If I go FI, it will be this winter.
That Alpha looks good, reminds me of a BMW.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Ahhh, okay. I was hoping it was a typo. He should dyno the car. It probably makes over 200WHP now, should easily be a high 13s/low 14s car.
I've said this before too, Jaguar is absolutely crushing the competition. They've raised the performance metric with this car considerably. They've made enough noise to get BMW's attention to the point where they've designed an updated engine (N55>B58) and re-calibrated the 335i into the 340i, as a result, with more power and some mild chassis and minor interior refinement tweaks.
TheAbsolution
Member
2016 Chevy Cruze details
More images here.
http://www.mlive.com/auto/index.ssf/2015/06/2016_chevy_cruze_debuts_in_det.html
Autoblog said:
More images here.
http://www.mlive.com/auto/index.ssf/2015/06/2016_chevy_cruze_debuts_in_det.html
MiniBossBattle
Member
Can someone explain ECU reflash for the layman? I always hear about VW Golfs getting their ECU reflashed on their turbos. It just sounds like a great way to ruin your engine reliability.
I can't recommend a decent set of coil overs enough. The ride quality is quite poor in a stock FRS/BRZ and much worse when lowered with springs.
GoldenEye 007
Member
Looks like a Civic. And don't some of the higher trim models offer a 1.4L turbocharged engine? I don't think that's new at all. I previously had a CPO 2013 Cruze 2LT before I switched to the 2014 Mazda3.2016 Chevy Cruze details
More images here.
http://www.mlive.com/auto/index.ssf/2015/06/2016_chevy_cruze_debuts_in_det.html
TheAbsolution
Member
They took away the 1.8L and increased the power on the 1.4 I believe.
Liquidsnake
Banned
Its like the factory CPU is programmed for fuel economy, and for safety beyond what is really needed. The results can sometime be a overly underutilized engine,
Think 220i BMW and 228 I have the same engine, and are capable of outputting the same performance, but the 220 is neutered. You can unlock the rest of the engine by re-flashing it.
Please anyone correct me if I am wrong.
In the case of the FRS, My un-flashed FRS has an enormousness torque dip, and a weird pause between shifts. My brother who re flashed his car, has amazing pulls, and very smooth shifts that hold, and do not dip.
I don't look at it like engine problems waiting to happen, but if its a reputable flash, I look at it as un-neutering the car.
Auto GAF correct me if I am wrong, I am not an expert.
That looks like a lot of fun.
GoldenEye 007
Member
Ah yup, looks like from 138hp to 153hp.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
2016 Chevy Cruze details
More images here.
http://www.mlive.com/auto/index.ssf/2015/06/2016_chevy_cruze_debuts_in_det.html
Wow, that's impressive. Should be a hoot and will give this segment the injection of fun it desperately needs. The new Nissan Sentra will be the next car to do that, it'll be powered by the Juke's 1.8L turbo-4 and make 175HP. Unfortunately, it will likely be neutered by a CVT.
That's pretty much the case. Cars are often tuned to be eco friendly from the factory. Power is sacrificed in the name of fuel efficiency. Air-Fuel maps are more conservative than they need to be. All most ECU tunes do is optimize the AFR, which changes the mixture of air-to-fuel, allowing for more fuel to be dumped in. If you couple these tunes with mods such as intakes and exhausts, you can add more air to the mixture, and gain even more power.
I'd wager to say that no reputable tuner or engine with an ECU tune has ever catastrophically failed because of the tune. When you have a bad tune, your car will always tell you - the engine will knock and ping immediately. It won't run right. If the tune is good, all you'll feel is an extra surge and kick in power. I've tuned every one of my cars and ran them all very hard and never had any issues.
Reliability with ECUs becomes a problem when idiots try to tune turbo'd cars beyond their limits on stock turbos, fuel pumps, injectors, etc. These cars can be tuned for increased performance, but anymore than a 40WHP increase is asking for premature failure of stock supporting components (see: all turbo BMWs). Some can go longer than others, but it's highly variable based on driving styles. If you're tuning a car with OEM turbos, you need supporting mods to aid the tune - higher PSI turbos needs increased air induction (intake) and especially increase exhaust to relieve back-pressure. So to get the most bang out of an OEM turbo with an ECU tune, it requires supporting bolt-ons.
Those extra mods will add on an additional 20-25WHP easily, on top of the turbo's 40WHP, with stock reliability. Add that up and you've got a gain of 60WHP (over 80HP) for around $1500 max. You can't beat that kind of dollar
ower ratio.Got to take a McLaren MP4-12C Spider for a spin a couple days ago.
I was on a business trip and had some time to kill so I rolled up to the dealer to check it out (there's no McLaren dealer in my city) and chatted with the dealer for a bit and got offered to take the 650S out, but he found out some salesman had already taken it out or something so we got to try a used MP4-12C with a ridiculously loud FabSpeed exhaust. The exhaust was bonkers loud, especially with the top down. Honestly, probably too loud at WOT.
But man... can it handle a corner at speed. McLaren's hydraulic stabilizer bar that replaces the typical anti-roll bar of pretty much most every other sports/super cars is rather amazing. Basically the bar can electronically soften and firm up in a turn on the fly which obviously is way better than a single piece of steel put in place to help body roll when g-force load dynamically increases.
(This graphic isn't from McLaren's set up, but its similar)
Combine that system with a mid-engine slotted into a carbon monocoque tub and you got a really amazing handling capabilities that feel ultra planted at high speed.
Makes my Cayman feel like a toy in the corners comparatively, but of course an MP4 is double the price (or triple the price for a 650S), so makes sense it should feel better. lol
My buddy told me his P1 makes his 650S/458 feel like a toy lol. So... I can't really fathom how good a P1 is.
I was on a business trip and had some time to kill so I rolled up to the dealer to check it out (there's no McLaren dealer in my city) and chatted with the dealer for a bit and got offered to take the 650S out, but he found out some salesman had already taken it out or something so we got to try a used MP4-12C with a ridiculously loud FabSpeed exhaust. The exhaust was bonkers loud, especially with the top down. Honestly, probably too loud at WOT.
But man... can it handle a corner at speed. McLaren's hydraulic stabilizer bar that replaces the typical anti-roll bar of pretty much most every other sports/super cars is rather amazing. Basically the bar can electronically soften and firm up in a turn on the fly which obviously is way better than a single piece of steel put in place to help body roll when g-force load dynamically increases.
(This graphic isn't from McLaren's set up, but its similar)
Combine that system with a mid-engine slotted into a carbon monocoque tub and you got a really amazing handling capabilities that feel ultra planted at high speed.
Makes my Cayman feel like a toy in the corners comparatively, but of course an MP4 is double the price (or triple the price for a 650S), so makes sense it should feel better. lol
My buddy told me his P1 makes his 650S/458 feel like a toy lol. So... I can't really fathom how good a P1 is.
rokkerkory
Member
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Got to take a McLaren MP4-12C Spider for a spin a couple days ago.
I was on a business trip and had some time to kill so I rolled up to the dealer to check it out (there's no McLaren dealer in my city) and chatted with the dealer for a bit and got offered to take the 650S out, but he found out some salesman had already taken it out or something so we got to try a used MP4-12C with a ridiculously loud FabSpeed exhaust. The exhaust was bonkers loud, especially with the top down. Honestly, probably too loud at WOT.
But man... can it handle a corner at speed. McLaren's hydraulic stabilizer bar that replaces the typical anti-roll bar of pretty much most every other sports/super cars is rather amazing. Basically the bar can electronically soften and firm up in a turn on the fly which obviously is way better than a single piece of steel put in place to help body roll when g-force load dynamically increases.
(This graphic isn't from McLaren's set up, but its similar)
Combine that system with a mid-engine slotted into a carbon monocoque tub and you got a really amazing handling capabilities that feel ultra planted at high speed.
Makes my Cayman feel like a toy in the corners comparatively, but of course an MP4 is double the price (or triple the price for a 650S), so makes sense it should feel better. lol
My buddy told me his P1 makes his 650S/458 feel like a toy lol. So... I can't really fathom how good a P1 is.
If I could go out and buy any one exotic, I'd probably get the MP4-12C used. I prefer its looks over the 650S, it simply looks gorgeous. They're not that expensive either.
That's a pretty solid increase. New Cruze also weighs 250 lbs less.
jongkookie
Member
Yeah gonna go check it out Friday, hatchback of course. It's gonna be my daily!
Go for the 2.5L engine!
It works really well for the CX-5 so I imagine it'll be really fantastic on a lighter car.
Agreed. Best used Supercar buy in the world right now. I'm glad the 650S came out and lowered it's price. The level of performance and tech you get for the money is astonishing.
oh god it looks horrible
Not Alfa looking at all D:
The fact that he babies the car doesn't really mean anything and isn't necessarily always a good thing. However it seems to be evident he cares for the car regardless of that claim. As far an evo x with a stock tune supposedly driven "grandpa-like" is concerned, 16mpg is indicative of a lot of stop and go. This is harder on the car and wears out parts faster. Should be getting around 20mpg no problem otherwise. Before the turbo spools it's just 2 litres getting roughly 3500 lbs to move, so starting from a stop and driving around at low speeds is what really kills the mileage.
Your questions:
1) SERVICE HISTORY. Very important. Good maintenance also generally indicates that the car was treated right in other aspects.
4) Should you buy it? Well, what exactly are you looking for in a car? The X is pretty much free of any serious issues. Off the top of my head I believe the two most common problems are a notchy and/or grinding transmission when it's cold and/or driven lightly, and the AYC pump failing due to corrosion if I recall correctly. The transmission notchiness/grinding is merely an inconvenience, there's no damage being done it just doesn't feel the greatest. There are some supposed fixes such as a weighted shift knob and aftermarket trans fluid. The AYC pump can be relocated to the trunk and just recently became included in the coverage of the 7 year/100k mile anti-corrosion warranty.
The internet is a great tool, use it to educate yourself about the car. There is a ton of information out there, forums specific to the evo are a great place to start. There you'll also find links to external sites and whatnot which are tougher or impossible to find just using google alone. As far as finding a mechanic or shop goes, look through regional forums to see where other people are taking their cars and go from there.
If I were you, something I would consider doing is getting a WRX, then in a couple of years or whatever if you still like the evo you can take the time and find a nice 2014 model. It's a well designed and good looking car no question, but IMO that's no reason to get one car over another. Although, once you drive it I'm sure you won't care at all what it looks like lol
solid advice right here
Lol I forgot to finish my original reply. But yeah the 15 year import rule is baller. Anwyays, I meant to say how uncommon the evo was in comparison to the STI, not even including WRXs regular imprezas etc etc; it was practically non-existent. Regarding a more general non-location based comparison, I think I read somewhere that the production of full out STI's outnumbers lancer evo's around 3 to 1. Could be total BS for all I know but it seems to make sense and I wouldn't be surprised if it was true.
Today here in SoCal I spotted an STI hatch parked on my block with plates from the province I used to live in, I couldn't believe it lmao.
I was always a massive fan of the STI, especially the hatch and later model year facelift/widebody. It was basically my dream practical everyday car, especially for Canada. When I was finally in the position to own one, I did my research and was completely turned off by the potential engine issues, so I ended up with an evo lol. Also all new 5-doors were gone with only a selection of crappy used ones to choose from, and the new 2015 STI still had the same engine. Any desirable hatch wasn't for sale or was listed for MSRP with like 50k miles lol, no joke. Previously I was aware of the evo and liked it but it was just another cool car, I was nowhere nearly as interested in it as the subie. The tables sure turned so to speak, never would've guessed.
So to get the most bang out of an OEM turbo with an ECU tune, it requires supporting bolt-ons.
Those extra mods will add on an additional 20-25WHP easily, on top of the turbo's 40WHP, with stock reliability. Add that up and you've got a gain of 60WHP (over 80HP) for around $1500 max. You can't beat that kind of dollar
Yup, Stage 2 ECU tune + intake + full turboback exhaust made my car feel and sound like a whole different car. Love it, and wish I modded earlier.
Oh, I know. He hates having to use the bathroom outside on dewey grass when it is in the 60s.
you guys are killing me. i'm anxiously waiting for a few "extra" checks to roll in, end of summer-ish, when i plan to go a little crazy with my evo. finally settled (yeah right) on a high flow cat, catback exhaust, intake (drop-in) and pipe, electronic boost controller, a pro tune, and maybe a new fuel pump if my tuner recommends it. should make a world of difference in a car that still blows me away bone stock.
rokkerkory
Member
Yeah I am going for 2.5 liter! Some crazy promotions right now so I can upgrade for basically zero more $.
BoboBrazil
Member
Yeah I am going for 2.5 liter! Some crazy promotions right now so I can upgrade for basically zero more $.
What price are you getting your Mazda 3 at before the TT+l? Is it the grand touring?
Silver Arrows
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Pikes Peak Hillclimb suspended after reported death of Carl Sodersen
Sad to see, but that's the risk when you make the trek up. RIP
Sad to see, but that's the risk when you make the trek up. RIP
rokkerkory
Member
I've got a quote for both S Touring and Grand Touring models, but learning towards Touring as I really don't need HIDs, leather, etc for a daily. Quote was 23k before tax and fees.
BoboBrazil
Member
Nice I got a dealer wanting to sell me a s grand touring sedan for a little less than 23k.
Have yall been following the news?
http://blog.caranddriver.com/ford-f...orque-confirmed-you-will-not-be-disappointed/
I gotta learn how to drive a manual man.
http://blog.caranddriver.com/ford-f...orque-confirmed-you-will-not-be-disappointed/
I gotta learn how to drive a manual man.
rokkerkory
Member
That's about right being that the sedan is a tad cheaper than the hatch. FWIW, the Grand Touring hatch would add roughly $900 to the 23k price.
Nice to know the RS is coming to the USA.
I checked out an Alfa 4C last weekend. If there were a stick shift option I would be all over one.
I looked at the 3 locations on the website near my area in NYC, and all the 4Cs are sold out.
There is one used one on cars.com going for wayyy above retail price.
Imo the best looking somewhat affordable sportscar.
Have yall been following the news?
http://blog.caranddriver.com/ford-f...orque-confirmed-you-will-not-be-disappointed/
I gotta learn how to drive a manual man.
Yeah, count me in as being excited. However, I'm not a fan of the rear diffuser and the front fascia. They're slightly on the ricey side for me and I actually prefer the more low key look of the ST. Can't wait to see the track numbers though!
jongkookie
Member
Rumors are between 37-39k depending on options.
I think this car is way better (on paper, and what Ive watching on test drives, youtubes, etc..) than the STI.
It just has soo much more to it.
RapidCancel
Member
Didn't realize that there was an automotive thread on here. Just thought I'd stop by and say hi!
Rumors are Clarkson, Hammond, and May will be formally announcing their new show at Netflix next week, with shooting starting soon. Can't wait. Less restrictions than BBC and higher budget should make for one awesome show!
I don't think there will be a markup on these. It's not like a limited edition Ferrari or something. $39K is already asking a lot for a Focus, no matter how performance oriented it is. It's main rivals like the WRX STI, Evo, Civic Type R, and Golf R are all similarly priced. If they try to mark it up, it will encroach on a whole another category of car.
Nobody I know is paying markup on a Cayman GT4 and that's a hell of a lot more rare and expensive than the Focus RS will be. Two people I know also ordered the new GT3RS at MSRP.
Welcome to the best community on GAF!
What do you drive?
I don't think there will be a markup on these. It's not like a limited edition Ferrari or something. $39K is already asking a lot for a Focus, no matter how performance oriented it is. It's main rivals like the WRX STI, Evo, Civic Type R, and Golf R are all similarly priced. If they try to mark it up, it will encroach on a whole another category of car.
Nobody I know is paying markup on a Cayman GT4 and that's a hell of a lot more rare and expensive than the Focus RS will be. Two people I know also ordered the new GT3RS at MSRP.
Welcome to the best community on GAF!
What do you drive?