Got the chance to have a go in a Porsche 718, and Jaguar F-Pace and XE for the first time yesterday. Anyone care for impressions?
Got the chance to have a go in a Porsche 718, and Jaguar F-Pace and XE for the first time yesterday. Anyone care for impressions?
Got the chance to have a go in a Porsche 718, and Jaguar F-Pace and XE for the first time yesterday. Anyone care for impressions?
718 please! Was it the S trim?
Sure! I'm actually curious about all three, but mostly the F-Pace oddly enough.
read this as a Porsche 918
No, just base, but it still gave me some interesting insights.
Styling wise, I think it looks a lot better in person. The one I drove was Guard's Red. It already had the blacked out headlights and tails like the 981 GTS, along with wider side air intakes, so think it would look great with some black wheels as well.
Let's just get one thing out of the way. No, the motor and exhaust don't sound as good as the old flat sixes, but they also don't sound bad. It makes some fun turbo spooling and blowoff noises, and the exhaust has some good volume for being a standard exhaust on the base car. I am sure the Sports Exhaust option on the S will up the noise and drama to acceptable levels for most.
Now onto the actual car. Steering, brakes, and handling are still class leading. Everything feels sharper and more taut than the previous generation. Turn in is great and you can mash the throttle on corner exit without losing composure. It feels like a grown up Miata. Nothing to complain about on that front.
The engine is obviously the biggest change, but I think it's a change for the better for most. The new Boxster is a much better street car for the average buyer and a noticeable performance improvement over the outgoing model. This car lives for the mid range. It was happiest between 3-5K RPMs, where it made MUCH more torque than the 981. There wasn't really much benefit to revving it out to redline, something that you pretty much had to do with the old car to get moving. The additional torque meant you could overtake or get up to speed much quicker without putting as much strain on the engine.
Sure, some pure enthusiasts might miss the instant throttle response and linear power band of the N/A motors, but my guess is they aren't shopping for base Boxsters in the first place. Even though the price has increased a bit, I still think it's a fantastic value. None of it's competitors drive as well and offer such a complete package. If you can get over the motor situation, I think a 718 Cayman with a 6spd manual is going to be the best sports car available in that segment.
I still want to drive an S though as I think it will be a beast. Hopefully, I can get a chance soon.
LOL, I wish.
Your review is pretty much spot on with what I've read about the 718. Other than the engine/exhaust/throttle response everybody seems to agree that overall the 718 is an improvement over the older generation. You didn't touch on the interior which I think is a massive improvement over the older generation. It's also encouraging to hear that the exhaust doesn't sound bad, that's all I needed to hear and like you said it's not even the S spec with SE.
Dang, just when I think the 981 S is a lock you come in with that glowing review of the 718. It's all good, though, thanks for that. I'm going to take my time with this purchase. I was a bit too hasty with my S5, I should've waited a few more months and gotten an RS5. Lesson learned so I'm going to super patient when it comes to the Cayman.
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They already have an overloaded cast with plenty of talent. They should keep LeBlanc, move Reid and Harris to the main show and get rid of Jordan. I'm not sure what they should do with Sabine though.
It's using GT4 rear suspension geometry, Carrera brakes, and 991 Turbo steering rack. Its clearly going to be a fantastic driving experience. Up to you to decide how to weigh that against the noise and "soul" of the 981 flat 6.
F-Pace exceeded my expectations in a lot of ways. My two points of comparison were the 2016 X5 35i I've personally been driving and the Macan GTS my friend is thinking about picking up.
I drove the middle of the road model, the 35T Prestige. This has the 340HP supercharged V6, instead of the 380HP motor and adaptive suspension of the S.
Looks and sound wise, it is fantastic. At the moment, it is rare and has some nice road presence. This one was triple black. Black paint, interior, and wheels. Looked sinister.
It felt quicker than the X5, but not as quick as the Porsche. Transmission is the ubiquitous ZF 8 speed, so it is great, but not as good as the best dual clutches.
Two points of contention were initial brake feel and mid corner stability. The brakes worked fine when you dug into them, but I think were inferior to Porsche and BMW in terms of bite and stability. It also seemed to lean and under steer a bit through tight bends. I am hoping both of those would be improved on the S. Keep in mind that this Jag was specced at $51K, whereas my X5 was $70K and the Macan GTS was $85K, so it's not really a fair straight comparison. I think it makes a great value proposition when that is taken into account. A nicely specced S can be had in the mid 60s.
In terms of size, it was bigger than the Macan both in terms of rear seating and storage. Not quite as much as the X5, but close.
The materials you interacted with felt good, and the new infotainment is a big step up from the old units. Some of the plastics were not as great, but again, they had to cut costs somewhere and it's not a big deal unless you are a critical person like me.
Overall, I think it's a great addition to the segment and shits all over the Range Rover Evoque.
TIL Alpha got a job as Jaguar PR.
TIL?
hahahaha holy shit, I forgot about thatNobody ever reads the OP on NeoGAF.
hahahaha holy shit, I forgot about that
Holy shit...
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-porsche-911-carrera-test-review
That's a pretty much base car with the standard motor. And it's almost as fast as my XKR with 140 less HP.....someone needs to dyno these things. I call BS on them being 370HP. Could be a potential next car for me a few years from now.
Holy shit...
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-porsche-911-carrera-test-review
That's a pretty much base car with the standard motor. And it's almost as fast as my XKR with 140 less HP.....someone needs to dyno these things. I call BS on them being 370HP. Could be a potential next car for me a few years from now.
Holy shit...
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-porsche-911-carrera-test-review
That's a pretty much base car with the standard motor. And it's almost as fast as my XKR with 140 less HP.....someone needs to dyno these things. I call BS on them being 370HP. Could be a potential next car for me a few years from now.
Ass engine, torque forever and PDK traction control wizardry.Yeh a base 911 with 370HP does 3.4s to 60 now?
So in a interesting day of events I canceled my 2017 order for a RS... Because I just brought home a 2016! Nitrous Blue, RS2, sunroof, just the way I wanted it. Seems the original buyer couldn't get approved for a loan, they called me up, said no ADM and we'll beat any offer the other dealer gave you on your trade, and after a 2HR drive, 40 mins at the dealership, I'm on my slightly longer drive home to avoid the interstate and turnpike.
From the teasing I did in the car, its feel and sound... I haven't felt this way driving since I first drove my Evo 8 back in the day. Car is legit.
Its also filthy because they removed the plastic and I told them to stop, ill detail it at home. That nitrous blue (dirty at that) in direct sunlight, yikes. So many people while I was at the dealership stopped and gawked at and complimented it.
Matt Farrah is correct, exhaust is too damn quiet. That and winter wheels and tires, floormats, and mudflaps are first on the order list. Unfortunately, there's nothing outside of one exhaust custom made by an owner I like. This week ill be going to a guy that has done great work in the past and see what we can whip up.
I haven't had a smile driving like this in a while.
Ill spare the pics until I clean it up.
Holy shit...
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-porsche-911-carrera-test-review
That's a pretty much base car with the standard motor. And it's almost as fast as my XKR with 140 less HP.....someone needs to dyno these things. I call BS on them being 370HP. Could be a potential next car for me a few years from now.
So in a interesting day of events I canceled my 2017 order for a RS... Because I just brought home a 2016! Nitrous Blue, RS2, sunroof, just the way I wanted it. Seems the original buyer couldn't get approved for a loan, they called me up, said no ADM and we'll beat any offer the other dealer gave you on your trade, and after a 2HR drive, 40 mins at the dealership, I'm on my slightly longer drive home to avoid the interstate and turnpike.
So in a interesting day of events I canceled my 2017 order for a RS... Because I just brought home a 2016! Nitrous Blue, RS2, sunroof, just the way I wanted it. Seems the original buyer couldn't get approved for a loan, they called me up, said no ADM and we'll beat any offer the other dealer gave you on your trade, and after a 2HR drive, 40 mins at the dealership, I'm on my slightly longer drive home to avoid the interstate and turnpike.
From the teasing I did in the car, its feel and sound... I haven't felt this way driving since I first drove my Evo 8 back in the day. Car is legit.
Its also filthy because they removed the plastic and I told them to stop, ill detail it at home. That nitrous blue (dirty at that) in direct sunlight, yikes. So many people while I was at the dealership stopped and gawked at and complimented it.
Matt Farrah is correct, exhaust is too damn quiet. That and winter wheels and tires, floormats, and mudflaps are first on the order list. Unfortunately, there's nothing outside of one exhaust custom made by an owner I like. This week ill be going to a guy that has done great work in the past and see what we can whip up.
I haven't had a smile driving like this in a while.
Ill spare the pics until I clean it up.
Do y'all go to car shows/meets by yourselves?
Cupcake Meet(JDM meet + drift show) is going on 30 minutes away from me. I kinda wanna go to check out the cars and snap some pics but it's the stance JDM crowd, it's gonna be fncking hot, my car is dirty as fnck, and it's $15 bucks to get in.
None of my Miata buddies are going since they're too busy doing autocross or prepping for one next week. And again it's the stance crowd so they're don't necessarily align with those guys lol.
Congrats man!!
Do you also agree with Matt about the car being more "luxurious" than to be expected? That to me is a selling point now since I'm getting tired of the back-breaking suspension of my Miata lol.
You find your Miata to be back-breaking? That's not really aligned with what I think about it, but tires definitely make a difference, as I am finding out. What tires are you running?
I think the Miata is "active" as in it moves around a lot in response to the road surface, but I actually think mine does a pretty good job with bumps and potholes as long as you aren't flying over them at silly speeds. It's been a couple of years now, but I'm pretty sure my 987 Boxster was a good bit stiffer in stock form.
As I mentioned a page or so back, I ordered new tires and yesterday afternoon I got them installed. Right away, there is a big difference in ride comfort and road noise versus the old tires. I went from 205/45/17's to 215/45/17's and that gave me a little bit more sidewall height and a little bit more rubber on the road. The MX-5 now feels more smooth and more planted than before.
The initial turn in "bite" is also much, much better, so much so that it took me my entire 30 minute trip home yesterday to get used to it. New tires are BfGoodrich gForce Comp 2 A/S and I am liking them already.
Congrats, looks like you got a great deal on the car. If you haven't already, make sure it has the timing chain and fuel pump relay issues taken care of as well as having all standard maintenance up to date. Enjoy!
No. EVERYONE buys a white Evo X. It is the most common, boring color. Try blue, red, or gray. It's actually a known joke in the Evo community.
So in a interesting day of events I canceled my 2017 order for a RS... Because I just brought home a 2016! Nitrous Blue, RS2, sunroof, just the way I wanted it. Seems the original buyer couldn't get approved for a loan, they called me up, said no ADM and we'll beat any offer the other dealer gave you on your trade, and after a 2HR drive, 40 mins at the dealership, I'm on my slightly longer drive home to avoid the interstate and turnpike.
From the teasing I did in the car, its feel and sound... I haven't felt this way driving since I first drove my Evo 8 back in the day. Car is legit.
Its also filthy because they removed the plastic and I told them to stop, ill detail it at home. That nitrous blue (dirty at that) in direct sunlight, yikes. So many people while I was at the dealership stopped and gawked at and complimented it.
Matt Farrah is correct, exhaust is too damn quiet. That and winter wheels and tires, floormats, and mudflaps are first on the order list. Unfortunately, there's nothing outside of one exhaust custom made by an owner I like. This week ill be going to a guy that has done great work in the past and see what we can whip up.
I haven't had a smile driving like this in a while.
Ill spare the pics until I clean it up.
I told you this when I had one for the weekend!
Base 911 is now bonkers fast. On highway runs, it was a dead heat with my friends 550HP supercharged E39 M5 from 50-130mph.
In related Porsche news, my friend recently got the chance to drive an M4, Alfa 4C, 981 GTS, and 718S on the track and said the 718S is HANDS DOWN the best driver's car of the bunch. Bold statement.
So burgerdog, unless you can get your hands on a GT4, it's probably for the best to ignore the 981 platform for now.
But what does TIL stand for? I hate random abbreviations. I just google'd it, and it seems like it's "Today I learned"?
Which is funny and probably a job I'd love. But hey, I was just breaking the car down for him.
Thanks! Wasn't aware of those issues, but I will be picking up a new relay since my Evo has the original black one. And what can I do about the timing chain? Is there a TSB or recall for it? Or just inspect it myself to see if it is stretched?
I'm awesome and have a new RS
Do y'all go to car shows/meets by yourselves?
Congrats man!!
Do you also agree with Matt about the car being more "luxurious" than to be expected? That to me is a selling point now since I'm getting tired of the back-breaking suspension of my Miata lol.
Congrats! Besides the exhaust do you plan on keeping it stock?
Why does it cost soooooo damn much to ship aero from Japan I'm still trying to stomach this quote I have for this kit I'm looking to purchase next month. I won't even get into the cost of the hood
Yeah it's a pain.
I bought another Japanese car today, little bit different from my S14 I used to have.
4.5L V8 Nissan Cima
Landed in Australia a couple weeks ago. It's unbelievably smooth to drive and so comfortable.
Never seen one of those before, looks awesome! A big V8 in a comfortable sedan is always a great combination.
Never seen one of those before, looks awesome! A big V8 in a comfortable sedan is always a great combination.
So for some peasant auto gaf content, I bought another car the other day. Its a 1998 volvo S70 turbo with a manual transmission, so not very common.
I always say I won't do anything much, and then it just spirals out of control. I don't think ill need much though, intake, turboback, and a tune and I think ill be satisfied. Ill instead get a good set of Volks, BBS, or wedsports or something and leave it at that. Maybe a shift knob, and maybe shifter kit. But, we'll see lol.
Yeah it's a pain.
I bought another Japanese car today, little bit different from my S14 I used to have.
4.5L V8 Nissan Cima
Landed in Australia a couple weeks ago. It's unbelievably smooth to drive and so comfortable.
So in a interesting day of events I canceled my 2017 order for a RS... Because I just brought home a 2016! Nitrous Blue, RS2, sunroof, just the way I wanted it. Seems the original buyer couldn't get approved for a loan, they called me up, said no ADM and we'll beat any offer the other dealer gave you on your trade, and after a 2HR drive, 40 mins at the dealership, I'm on my slightly longer drive home to avoid the interstate and turnpike.
From the teasing I did in the car, its feel and sound... I haven't felt this way driving since I first drove my Evo 8 back in the day. Car is legit.
Its also filthy because they removed the plastic and I told them to stop, ill detail it at home. That nitrous blue (dirty at that) in direct sunlight, yikes. So many people while I was at the dealership stopped and gawked at and complimented it.
Matt Farrah is correct, exhaust is too damn quiet. That and winter wheels and tires, floormats, and mudflaps are first on the order list. Unfortunately, there's nothing outside of one exhaust custom made by an owner I like. This week ill be going to a guy that has done great work in the past and see what we can whip up.
I haven't had a smile driving like this in a while.
Ill spare the pics until I clean it up.
Yeah they are fairly rare. After getting way too much attention from the cops in my S14, I wanted something that is fun but the police will have no idea what it is. Should be able to fly under the radar nicely
Yes, you have. It's an Infiniti Q45.
It was the pre-cursor to my old Infiniti M56, which is also a Nissan Cima in Japan.